E36M3 #21

Wednesday, April 05, 2000 12:48:10

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay - from John Van Houten
#2. Re: Best novice tires for autocross? - from Michael A. Chiang
#3. Used BFG g-Force R1s - from Ben Liaw
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? - from Peter Guagenti
#5. Re: [E36M3] SRS Light - from Chris Turrisi
#6. Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Best novice tires for autocross? - from Rich Gay
#7. Re: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay - from Joe Dyer
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? - from Joe Dyer
#9. Re: [E36M3] offset question - from Sean Hester
#10. Re: [E36M3] M3 Compression HELP! - from Sean Hester
#11. Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Best novice tires for autocross? - from Sean Hester

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay - from John Van Houten
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:42:27 -0400 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay I actually drove this car around a bit, and it was _very_ nice. I've never really been a fan of Dinan stuff (not sure why, just haven't, maybe it's the engineer in me wanting to experiment on my own), but the Dinan stuff was very well done. I haven't driven super/turbo charged cars much, but man, its like getting and adrenalin shot with every movement of the right foot. I was also surprised at the handling of the Stage 3 suspension given how "soft" it felt over the Chicago streets. Very impressive... After driving that car (and a few others) with Dinan stuff, I can see why the do so well, and they should. I think if you are going to build your car into a "street racer"/occasional track car, I think Dinan may be the way to go. It may be a bit more expensive, but all the bugs are worked out and the sh*t just plain works. If your build a track/race car, Dinan is not the way to go. Basically, the Dinan stuff makes life easy for you to make your car faster, but it won't make it as fast as it could be. When/if I get around to getting a 5er for the more comfortable city driving, Dinan stuff will likely go on it if I want to spice it up a bit--I spend enough time tweaking the M3. John 95 M3 - lots of mods, none of them Dinan (and will stay that way) www.netcom.com/~jvanhout

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#2. Re: Best novice tires for autocross? - from Michael A. Chiang
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:03:47 -0400 From: "Michael A. Chiang" <Mike@archondev.com> Subject: Re: Best novice tires for autocross? I'm venturing that Peter's best bet is to buy a set of used R tires to begin with. It's not as expensive and the older tires will still grip better than street tires. Maybe he can find a set of discards from a track day event with some usable grip left on them. I ran street tires for 6 or 7 events, then started using a set of old R1s that had maybe 2-3 events left in them--- I drove 'em for 5! This way, I was able to get an 'in-between' set. As I grew accustomed to the new level of grip, I started driving the car much harder. I just put a fresh set of Kumhos on 3 months ago and it about blew my mind what the car was willing to do! Mike Chiang Lovin' life in ESP in '00

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#3.   Used BFG g-Force R1s - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:06:42 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: <FREE> Used BFG g-Force R1s i have a set of four (4) BFG g-Force R1s in 245/40R17 which i just dismounted. they have 2-3 schools left. they are yours, FREE. however, you have to come pick them up. located in northern NJ. ben liaw http://www.uucmotorwerks.com

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:25:02 -0700 From: "Peter Guagenti" <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? > I'm venturing that Peter's best bet is to buy a set of used R tires to begin with. It's not as expensive and the older tires will still grip better than street tires. < Okay, let's clarify. I'm really looking for a set of tires that's going to provide the best grip while I learn to race. Simple. I am very sensitive to what Jim had to say on the subject, especially the concern that as a novice I may not be able to judge when R tires are gonna let go. I like the fact that street tires squeal like pigs when they're ready to break loose. It gives you enough warning to calm down your speed. Money is less of a concern in all of this. I have an extra set of wheels, so there isn't an investment to be made there. My street wheels have practically brand new Toyo Proxes on them. I'm not ready to get rid of them, but they just aren't gonna cut it for auto-x. They're great for the Oregon rains that I just left behind me, but they suck on full-dry. I want to invest in an extra set of tires for auto-x, saving my street tires for the distance driving that seems to be the only _other_ use the car sees. I'm assuming that my best bet is to go pick up a set of used 225/45 Michelins off of someone swapping to 8.5's all the way around. Beat the hell out of them on the course until they die or I finally know enough that street tires are holding me back. Does that make sense to the more experienced folks on this list? There are a number of VERY successful auto-x'ers on this list that haven't spoken up (If I'm reading the SCCA standings right -- you know who you are :). What do you all think? Help a dedicated novice out here... ;) -p

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#5. Re: [E36M3] SRS Light - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:45:47 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] SRS Light On the same idea, has anyone determined how to disconnect the driver's side airbag without the SRS light coming on?? By possibly installing a resistor in place of the airbag. I have been trying to determine how to test the resistance of the airbag without setting it off?? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris T. 97 M3 At 08:46 PM 4/4/00 -0600, Larry Gilbertson wrote: >Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:35:11 -0400 >From: "Larry Gilbertson" <lgilb141@bellsouth.net> >Subject: SRS Light > >To anyone that might be interested: > >I sent this to a couple of listers individually, but with the latest >thread maybe more of you are interested. > >Here is my $2 solution for the recurring SRS light. > >This works on my 95 ///M3. > >- Find the three conductor cable coming from the seat belt carrier. >- Locate its connector under the seat. It is a flat three pin plastic >piece about 1/2 inch wide by 3/4 inch long. >- Disconnect it and cut the wire bundle going to the seat belt carrier >leaving a couple of inches of spare wire. >- Solder a 100 ohm resistor (I used 1/2 watt) between the two outside >pins. The center conductor/pin is not used. >- Tape up the solder joints, reinstall the connector, and tuck it up >out of the way. >- Repeat the above for the passenger seat. >- Have the light reset. > >Your SRS light will never come on because of seat belt problems. > >Just remember, your SRS circuit thinks you are in the seat with >the seat belt buckled so that's how you should be. > >Regards > >Larry >95 ///M3, Daytona Violet >TMS chip >SS brake lines >JTD ODB & gauge kit to be installed as soon as I solve the >interference problem with the ODB (better clean up the pool >of oil resulting from the first attempt) BTW don't do this >the day before a drivers school. > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >************************************************************* >

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#6. Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Best novice tires for autocross? - from Rich Gay
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:39:04 -0500 From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Best novice tires for autocross? on 4/5/00 8:47 AM, Andrej Dolenc at adolenc@erols.com wrote: >> a set of good street tires costs about $1200. ($1000 at least) and it >> would last me 1-2 days at the track. that's about $600 worth of tires per >> track day. > > Dunno about the $1000-$1200, a bit high. Something like the toyo proxes or > yoko avs sport will be around $800 alltogether. Personally, I don't think the > higher priced tires are worth the extra $$ compared to these. But that's just > me.. I noticed today a Tire Rack ad for Kuhmo street tires, the 235/40/17 is priced at $102. Anyone tried this tire yet? - Rich

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:04:48 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay John, I like the way you think!!! Joe Dyer 95 M3, Dinan stage 3 with SC SF Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:42:27 -0400 > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Kewl Dinan M3 For Sale on E-Bay > > I actually drove this car around a bit, and it was _very_ nice. I've never > really been a fan of Dinan stuff (not sure why, just haven't, maybe it's the > engineer in me wanting to experiment on my own), but the Dinan stuff was > very well done. I haven't driven super/turbo charged cars much, but man, > its like getting and adrenalin shot with every movement of the right foot. > I was also surprised at the handling of the Stage 3 suspension given how > "soft" it felt over the Chicago streets. Very impressive... > > After driving that car (and a few others) with Dinan stuff, I can see why > the do so well, and they should. I think if you are going to build your car > into a "street racer"/occasional track car, I think Dinan may be the way to > go. It may be a bit more expensive, but all the bugs are worked out and the > sh*t just plain works. If your build a track/race car, Dinan is not the way > to go. Basically, the Dinan stuff makes life easy for you to make your car > faster, but it won't make it as fast as it could be. > > When/if I get around to getting a 5er for the more comfortable city driving, > Dinan stuff will likely go on it if I want to spice it up a bit--I spend > enough time tweaking the M3. > > John > 95 M3 - lots of mods, none of them Dinan (and will stay that way) > www.netcom.com/~jvanhout

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:08:57 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? Peter, Buy Kumhos if you can find them! Joe Dyer SF Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:26 AM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:25:02 -0700 > From: "Peter Guagenti" <peter@guagenti.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Best novice tires for autocross? > > > > I'm venturing that Peter's best bet is to buy a set of used R tires to > begin with. It's not as expensive and the older tires will still grip > better than street tires. > < > > Okay, let's clarify. I'm really looking for a set of tires that's going to > provide the best grip while I learn to race. Simple. > > I am very sensitive to what Jim had to say on the subject, especially the > concern that as a novice I may not be able to judge when R tires are gonna > let go. I like the fact that street tires squeal like pigs when they're > ready to break loose. It gives you enough warning to calm down your speed. > > Money is less of a concern in all of this. I have an extra set of wheels, > so there isn't an investment to be made there. My street wheels have > practically brand new Toyo Proxes on them. I'm not ready to get rid of > them, but they just aren't gonna cut it for auto-x. They're great for the > Oregon rains that I just left behind me, but they suck on full-dry. I want > to invest in an extra set of tires for auto-x, saving my street tires for > the distance driving that seems to be the only _other_ use the car sees. > > I'm assuming that my best bet is to go pick up a set of used 225/45 > Michelins off of someone swapping to 8.5's all the way around. Beat the > hell out of them on the course until they die or I finally know enough that > street tires are holding me back. > > Does that make sense to the more experienced folks on this list? There are > a number of VERY successful auto-x'ers on this list that haven't spoken up > (If I'm reading the SCCA standings right -- you know who you are :). What > do you all think? > > Help a dedicated novice out here... ;) > > -p > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > >

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#9. Re: [E36M3] offset question - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 10:28:25 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] offset question >Can someone explain to me why wheels from different manufacturers would >have >very different offsets for the same application? > >My Fikse FM10s in 8x17 have a 31.3mm offset. The IFG A5s in that size are >available in either 40 or 41mm offset. That seems like a pretty >significant >difference to me. The Fikses on the front of my 98 M3 seem to fit fine. wheel manufacturers don't make a new/different wheel for every car. they make a couple sizes and expect you to deal with it. usually they make wheels to fit popular cars. sadly (for us) i'm guessing the 911 drivers probably buy more 18 inch wheels, so most wheels are sized to fit that car. if you don't like the offset they give you, there's always spacers. >If I switch to the IFGs will they be 9mm farther inboard? Is there room for >that much variation? probably not. youd probably end up with spacers. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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#10. Re: [E36M3] M3 Compression HELP! - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 10:37:34 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 Compression HELP! >my cylinders read 160, 160, 160, 165, 175, 175 >IS THIS OK???? I am very fearful of these number being that they seem a >bit low, and while the car is under warranty I would rather have the >dealer fix it and spend the extra money on my project car "1971 2002 >(just purchased it, first one I have ever driven and they are fun as >hell)" Please help me out the car 1996 M3/2 with 42,000 miles i know nothing about engine mechanics to tell you if that's ok. but i did just do a compression check on my 95. the readings were 220 for all 6 cylinders. to my untrained eye 160-175 seems pretty low compared to 220, but again... i really have no idea. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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#11. Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Best novice tires for autocross? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 10:45:58 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Best novice tires for autocross? >Dunno about the $1000-$1200, a bit high. Something like the toyo proxes or >yoko avs sport will be around $800 alltogether. Personally, I don't think >the >higher priced tires are worth the extra $$ compared to these. But that's >just >me.. it's been a while since i shopped for "good" street tires for my car. i use cheap avs intermerdiates that cost $175 per. (or even FREE when i get them from michael lord) i just remember mxx3s costing $300 each. and dunlop <somethings> (i don't remember the number) costing $250 each. but i DO know that i only spend $150 for track tires. (sometimes $125) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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