E36M3 #71

Tuesday, April 18, 2000 22:19:17

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: Fuel Starvation in M3 - from Rob Norwalk
#2. RE: [E36M3] Understeer Fix? - from twisty M3
#3. Swapping hats - no results - from vernon@sprynet.com
#4. '97 M3 for sale - from ///M Pilot
#5. For Sale: Racing Dynamics sway bars (used 6 months) - from Wen Liew
#6. FW: Fun, Fun, Fun...for when you can't go driving... - from Thissell, Jeremy
#7. re: Understeer Fix? - from Ron Katona
#8. hood dents: source found - from DrWillb
#9. Re: Fuel Starvation in M3 - from Neil Maller
#10. Re: Understeer Fix? - from Neil Maller

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#1. Re: Fuel Starvation in M3 - from Rob Norwalk
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:21:51 -0500 From: "Rob Norwalk" <rjnorw@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> Subject: Re: Fuel Starvation in M3 Well Alex, You obviously don't know Koby - He generates as much left handed Gs as anybody else at through turn 2 at Putnam. If he tells you his car doesn't do that, well, then his car DOESN'T do that. Man I love the Internet...sheesh Rob No starvation problems either...must be I'm slow ;) >Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:39:45 EDT >From: Jenine5151@aol.com >Subject: Fuel Starvation in M3 > > >You wrote: > > >Well Bob, don't take this the wrong way but you are not driving the car as >hard as it can be driven. If the car is absolutely flat out you will begin >to have massive fuel starvation on right hand turns, with a fuel level >between a half to a quarter tank. Including myself, everyone I know that >races a M3 has this problem. The only way to get around this problem is to >either run above a half tank all the time, install foam in the fuel tank, >install a secondary fuel pump and pickup on the left side fuel tank or >install a fuel cell. > > >Alex Long >SCCA T2 M3 _______________________________ Rob Norwalk Raytheon Systems Company Vc:219.429.4737 Fx:219.429.5004

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Understeer Fix? - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:04:34 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Understeer Fix? As a possible camber plate option, is anyone using the BMW Motorsport Adjustable camber plates? If so, from where/how much? Jonathan L. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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#3. Swapping hats - no results - from vernon@sprynet.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:08:27 -0400 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: Swapping hats - no results I got my car back from my mechanic and he was unable to get any results whatsoever from swapping the front shock hats. He said that he tried everything he could, but was unable to get any more than the normal, stock negative camber settings (about -0.8 on my car). Has anyone else had this problem? Is there something else that must be done in conjunction with the swap to achieve the additional -1 or so degree? Thanks in advance. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 ...back to stock camber.....

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#4. '97 M3 for sale - from ///M Pilot
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:21:23 -0500 From: "///M Pilot" <mpilot@texas.net> Subject: '97 M3 for sale I have a '97 E36-2 five speed, white w/gray, all records and services done. H&R's, Sharked w/Intake (great set up) UUC short shift, Dinan Strut, Alpine 8080 security. The vehicle currently resides in San Antonio, and has just under 30k, and is being sold for $30k. For those with interest please email me personally for more information and pictures. Thanks, Clem 210.241.7502

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#5. For Sale: Racing Dynamics sway bars (used 6 months) - from Wen Liew
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:07:47 PDT From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: For Sale: Racing Dynamics sway bars (used 6 months) Front: 27mm, double adjustable Rear: 22mm, double adjustable Color: Bars - Green, Polyurethane Bushings - Blue Front comes with bar and bushings, rear comes with bar, bushings, links and link mounts(?). Fits E36 M3 and E36 3 series (non-ti, front mounts to control arm). Email me privately with best offer. Thanks. Wen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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#6. FW: Fun, Fun, Fun...for when you can't go driving... - from Thissell, Jeremy
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:19:11 -0400 From: "Thissell, Jeremy" <Jeremy.Thissell@USPTO.GOV> Subject: FW: Fun, Fun, Fun...for when you can't go driving... Ok Guys and gals. When you can't just go driving to blow off some steam (obligatory M3 content)...there's always this....... <<Whipthew.exe>> Enjoy...btw, the faster you hit the keys the funnier it gets. :-) Sorry Suzy, I know this is off topic a bit, but this is hilarious. Does the list have an official "whipping boy"? Jeremy Thissell Patent Examiner Art Unit 3762 US Patent Office

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#7. re: Understeer Fix? - from Ron Katona
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:11:50 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: re: Understeer Fix? Jonathan L. wrote: > Good day to all. My understeer and funky tire wear (outside is almost bald) > has finally gotten to the point that I'd like to do something about it. Have you had the alignment checked? If your understeer is readily apparent from initial turn in and the outside of the tires wear badly, I'd say you have too much front toe in. Have you looked at the sway bar links? If the car turns in nicely but then plows you could have a broken or loose sway bar link at _rear_ of the car. Worn shocks could be a problem too, but might as well check the easy things first. If all that checks out OK, then swapping the strut bearings or adding aftermarket sway bars will help. I'd suggest a nice set of coil-overs as your next step. ;-) -- Ron Katona

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#8. hood dents: source found - from DrWillb
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:04:59 -0400 From: "DrWillb" <drwillb@idt.net> Subject: hood dents: source found Well, I think I found the source of my hood dents. Looks like the heavy-handed monkeys at my local dealer were at fault. It seems unthinkable that this might happen, but by a process of elimination, it couldn't be anything else. I had taken my '95 in for diagnosis of an alarm problem. Turns out the hood switch had gone bad and needed to be replaced. Apparently, part of the diagnostic procedure involved leaning on and applying pressure to the hood in the area of said sensor. Result: the low-impact dents without any sign of scratches. A call and visit to the service advisor yielded a freebie visit to the body shop but it means filler and repaint on an otherwise pristine hood. I can only hope someone kicked that tech's ass all around the service bay. BTW, it was Park Ave BMW. Up to now I've had nothing but praise for them but I'll need to rethink that. Regards, Bill

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#9. Re: Fuel Starvation in M3 - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:13:34 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neilmaller@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Fuel Starvation in M3 On 4/18/00 13:48 E36M3 e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: >Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:39:45 EDT >From: Jenine5151@aol.com > >>I was at Putnam too this weekend. >>I can run my 95 M3 down to the reserve light, >>and I have yet to experience fuel starvation. >> >>This is problem is common to certain M3's, while others >>are not affected, like mine. > >>Bob >>95 M3, no fuel starvation problems > > >Well Bob, don't take this the wrong way but you are not driving the car as >hard as it can be driven. If the car is absolutely flat out you will begin >to have massive fuel starvation on right hand turns, with a fuel level >between a half to a quarter tank. >Alex Long >SCCA T2 M3 Heh heh. You don't know Kobayashi too well, do you Alex? Not driving the car too hard, that's a good one. Neil 96 M3

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#10. Re: Understeer Fix? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:13:37 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neilmaller@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Understeer Fix? On 4/18/00 13:48 E36M3 e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: >Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:55:56 PDT >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: Understeer Fix? > >Good day to all. My understeer and funky tire wear (outside is almost bald) >has finally gotten to the point that I'd like to do something about it. I >keep getting different feedback from people I've asked (any where from >camber plates or sway bars to a full suspension upgrade). I'd like to do >this one step at a time as I get more "in tune" with the car so I don't >think I'd like to do the full suspension (yet). I have it narrowed down to >camber plates OR sway bars. I've heard slight negatives about both but the >sway bars SEEM to make more sense right now. Any advice/feedback is much >appreciated. Sway bars will improve your handling, but won't save the front tires. You need to add front negative camber. Camber plates are effective but expensive. Camber shims are effective and cheap (under $20 from Steve D'G). Swapping the bearing hats is free if you can do it yourself, but results in a lot of negative at -2.5 deg or more, and isn't readily adjustable/reversible. Neil 96 M3

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