E36M3 #213

Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:56:21

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#1. BMW vs MB engines - from Steve D'Gerolamo
#2. >Subject: Re: X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie - from Ron Buchalski
#3. Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re: X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie - from Jim Powell
#4. Rattling exhaust - from Tomi Hotarinen
#5. Re: Crapsman? - from Neil Maller
#6. Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? - from GRCouture@aol.com
#7. test - from DiVincenti, A.J.
#8. Re: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines - from Adam Fila
#9. RE: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines - from Crumpley Jr, Robert E
#10. Re: [E36M3] Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? - from Chester Wong

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#1. BMW vs MB engines - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:09:41 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: BMW vs MB engines company, than BMW does.<<<< Only one thing to say: McLaren F1. John =============================================== Good point....why is McLaren running MB engines when they were using BMW for their F1? Why is McLaren consistently beating Williams....better chassis??? better engines???? better drivers??? I suspect the latter although it would be interesting to see how MH and DC would do against Ferrari if they were driving Williams cars. SD (PS- I'll be trying a Mercedes engined car for the first time in my life....I've got a 2001 E55 on order to replace my 89 535i. Too long a wait on the M5 and I wanted a slushbox to cope with the traffic here in the NYC area. I guess I've evolved into a "geezer"!) ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com

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#2. >Subject: Re:  X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:37:58 PDT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie Yes, I'm also guilty of succumbing to the lemming syndrome on this one. I ordered the buffer stop from my dealer, and waited two weeks for delivery (must be lots of other lemmings out there!). This weekend, while prepping for a driver's school, I installed the buffer stop, and immediately saw that the claims made for it were totally untrue. Perhaps it's use is somehow related to the movement of the engine/transmission during a front-end collision? If not, what other possible use could there be for it? At least, it fills that vacant space on the x-brace. When the x-brace was installed, I was wondering what mounted to that vertical bracket. Now (unfortunately), I know. Good thing it only cost $12+. -rb >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 01:20:46 EDT >From: RonStygar@aol.com >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > >Jim, > Amazing the people that bought this bridge. Nice to see you've come up >with the same conclusion. For cars that come with an x-brace this part >shows up only on the Z3's. It doesn't show up on the E36 convertible. >Connect to Dale's image page: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/ > and check out buffer and buffer1.jpg > > Ron@unofficialbmw.com FLY BMW Marlborough, CT > www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re:  X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie - from Jim Powell
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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:48:37 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie It may relate to a different chassis/engine configuration. For instance, a convertible may be 'loose' enough to need it. Or maybe we just don't drive our cars that hard? :) Jim Ron Buchalski wrote: > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:37:58 PDT > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > Yes, I'm also guilty of succumbing to the lemming syndrome on this one. I > ordered the buffer stop from my dealer, and waited two weeks for delivery > (must be lots of other lemmings out there!). > > This weekend, while prepping for a driver's school, I installed the buffer > stop, and immediately saw that the claims made for it were totally untrue. > > Perhaps it's use is somehow related to the movement of the > engine/transmission during a front-end collision? If not, what other > possible use could there be for it? > > At least, it fills that vacant space on the x-brace. When the x-brace was > installed, I was wondering what mounted to that vertical bracket. Now > (unfortunately), I know. Good thing it only cost $12+. > > -rb > > >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 01:20:46 EDT > >From: RonStygar@aol.com > >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > > >Jim, > > Amazing the people that bought this bridge. Nice to see you've come up > >with the same conclusion. For cars that come with an x-brace this part > >shows up only on the Z3's. It doesn't show up on the E36 convertible. > >Connect to Dale's image page: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/ > > and check out buffer and buffer1.jpg > > > > Ron@unofficialbmw.com FLY BMW Marlborough, CT > > www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************

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#4. Rattling exhaust - from Tomi Hotarinen
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:15:08 -0500 From: "Tomi Hotarinen" <thotarin@dazel.com> Subject: Rattling exhaust I have a rattle in my stock exhaust just past the cats before the muffler. It is not a broken bracket or anything and seems like I mostly notice it when the car is started cold. I banged on it around the cats and can hear a rattle coming from inside the pipes or maybe cat. Are the pipes dual layered which could have come apart? Any insight would be great. I would rather not have to replace the whole exhaust from the manifold back. Thanks. Tom '95 M3

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#5. Re: Crapsman? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:04:23 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neilmaller@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Crapsman? On 6/6/00 0:25 E36M3 e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: >Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:11:21 EDT >From: LoweSeaton@aol.com ><snip> >But the other >day I bought an identical size wrench (16 mm) and it is Crapsman! It is at >least 1/8 inch wider and about 3/4 inch shorter. No wonder you guys are >having clearance problems. Sears has obviously changed the producer of its >wrenches. I have bought my last Craftsman wrench. Their regular wrenches are pretty crappy, but the Craftsman Pro series are good quality, doubtless not as good as Facom or Snap-on, but more than good enough for everyday amateur use. These are much slimmer, and have a polished finish. Cost more, worth it. Neil 96 M3

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#6. Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? - from GRCouture@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:07:57 EDT From: GRCouture@aol.com Subject: Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? Hey guys, I've had my '99 M3 just a little over a year now, and every now and then, my traction control randomly activates for a short time (1-2 seconds at most), producing a VERY annoying grinding noise.....it almost feels like there's something lodged between the wheel and the rotor - not a good sound! The strange thing is that it seems to only do this when I'm stuck in traffic, and I go to get the car moving again - for that brief period between 1000-1500rpm in first. It doesn't happen all the time, but i've been noticing it maybe once or twice a week now. I'm having the inspection done in 2 weeks anyways, but I just wanted to see if this has happened to any of you. Thanks in advance, Gregg '99 Estoril Blue http://members.tripod.com/gcouture/m3

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#7. test - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:19:05 -0500 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsusd.lsumc.edu> Subject: test test

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#8. Re: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines - from Adam Fila
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:32:14 -0400 From: "Adam Fila" <ylf@mindless.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines I think his point was, that McLaren put a BMW V12 in the F1 (road car) which was arguably the ultimate supercar ever built. This engine went on to have a lot more racing success both in the McLaren F1 GTR at Le Mans (a win and a number of top five finishes) in FIA GT (many victories) and finally in the LMR with a win at Le Mans and many in ALMS. This engine is famous for it's reliability and efficiency. Engine failures for these V12's are almost unheard of. (BTW McLaren was running Peugeot engines in their Formula 1 cars until 1994 - the decision to go with a BMW engine in the F1 road car was made before the partnership with Mercedes) The genius behind this engine was BMW's Paul Rosche, who was also responsible for the turbocharged BMW 4 cylinder F1 engines of the 80's. These were the most powerful F1 engines every build, making in excess of 1400 hp in race trim ! (out of a 1.4 liter 4 cylinder !) Rosche also designed the M1 engine, and started the work on the new BMW F1 V10 before he retired last year. The new V10 is being designed by BMW in house, using BMW engineers in a facility built by BMW specifically for this purpose. In contrast, Mercedes when they decided they need to get into F1 went out and bought a racing engine manufacturer Ilmore who had an F1 engine already. Mercedes took 3 years to get to the top in F1 with this engine (starting in 95, they got their first Grand Prix win in 97, and first constructor championship in 98). BMW is in their first year now. They are already 3rd in points - something Mercedes didn't achieve until 98 - and might do even better with better driver talent. While the BMW engine is not currently as good as the Ilmore (ehm, Mercedes) or Ferrari ones, it is already exceeding most insiders' expectations for a first year development, one starting from scratch at that. I would give them a year or two before starting to judge the success of the program. -Adam Fila '95 M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:15 AM Subject: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:09:41 -0400 > From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > Subject: BMW vs MB engines > > company, than BMW does.<<<< > Only one thing to say: McLaren F1. > John > =============================================== > Good point....why is McLaren running MB engines when they were using BMW > for their F1? Why is McLaren consistently beating Williams....better > chassis??? better engines???? better drivers??? I suspect the latter > although it would be interesting to see how MH and DC would do against > Ferrari if they were driving Williams cars. SD (PS- I'll be trying a > Mercedes engined car for the first time in my life....I've got a 2001 E55 > on order to replace my 89 535i. Too long a wait on the M5 and I wanted a > slushbox to cope with the traffic here in the NYC area. I guess I've > evolved into a "geezer"!) > > > > > ========================================= > Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage > 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > >

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#9. RE: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines - from Crumpley Jr, Robert E
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:37:35 -0500 From: "Crumpley Jr, Robert E" <CRUMPLRE@bp.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > company, than BMW does.<<<< > Only one thing to say: McLaren F1. > John > =============================================== > Good point....why is McLaren running MB engines when they were using BMW > for their F1? ...SNIP>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Is the engine in McLaren's race car even built in-house by Mercedes like the BMW engine or is it really an Ilmor engine? Bobby Crumpley

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? How many miles on the car? Does the ASC yellow light flicker when this happens? Is the grinding noise very loud or barely audible? Here's a thought: Maybe it's some sort of harmonics with the clutch/engine interface with the low rpms? When I first picked up my car, I never had that...well, because I didn't know how to drive a stick and was engaging the clutch at a fairly high rpm in order to prevent stalling. Now that I'm better at working the clutch, I engage sometimes at a pretty low rpm (1000-1200rpms) and I here a little shudder... FWIW, Chester --- GRCouture@aol.com wrote: > I've had my '99 M3 just a little over a year now, and every now and then, my > traction control randomly activates for a short time (1-2 seconds at most), > producing a VERY annoying grinding noise.....it almost feels like there's > something lodged between the wheel and the rotor - not a good sound! > > The strange thing is that it seems to only do this when I'm stuck in traffic, > > and I go to get the car moving again - for that brief period between > 1000-1500rpm in first. It doesn't happen all the time, but i've been > noticing it maybe once or twice a week now. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

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