E36M3 #215

Wednesday, June 07, 2000 21:15:23

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. RE: [E36M3] Check Coolant Level - from Jim Bassett
#2. RE: Dealer Oil Service Pricing - from david tow
#3. Check Coolant Level message - from jbergstrom
#4. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #213 - from russell
#5. WTB catalytic converter - from Tomi Hotarinen
#6. Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re: X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie - from Matt Henson
#7. DIY HID Instructions Completed - from Ben Liaw
#8. [E36M3] electronic boost controller options. - from Anthony Pun
#9. What makes a good vendor 2 - from Mark Kelly
#10. Re: [E36M3] electronic boost controller options. - from Matt Henson

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Check Coolant Level - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:37:12 -0700 From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Check Coolant Level > The CHECK COOLANT LEVEL message has been coming on now during > start up on my > 95 M3, but the coolant level is at the proper level each time > I've checked. > Have any of you guys experienced this before? Should I be concerned, and > how could I remedy this? Couple of ideas: 1. A bad/malfunctioning sensor. Replace. (BTDT) 2. A very small leak in the radiator. Replace. (BTDT after first attempt at #1 didn't correct problem :-)) Fortunate for me, this was all done under warranty. Your approach may differ. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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#2. RE: Dealer Oil Service Pricing - from david tow
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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:52:32 PDT From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Dealer Oil Service Pricing How could that be $33 with BMW synthetic? Last time I changed my oil MYSELF, I spent over $35 on the 7 qt. of BMW synthetic oil and an oil filter alone. That was just parts! David ------------------------ DOW wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:25:55 EDT From: DOWZX@aol.com Subject: Dealer Oil Service Pricing Has anyone noticed the different pricing for oil services by the dealers. So far I have had $33 for one and $59 for another both at different dealers using BMW synthetic. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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#3. Check Coolant Level message - from jbergstrom
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:06:41 -0500 From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> Subject: Check Coolant Level message >>>>The CHECK COOLANT LEVEL message has been coming on now during start up on my 95 M3, but the coolant level is at the proper level each time I've checked. Have any of you guys experienced this before? Should I be concerned, and how could I remedy this?<<<< Another data point . . . I get that message about once a year in my '97. I just add a little water/coolant and it goes away. But it really wasn't so low to be concerned. Sometimes this also happens with my windshield washer fluid. It may be half full, and I'll get the washer fluid low message. I guess I'm pulling too many G's on the highway on-ramp. ;-) John 97 M3/4 with this and that

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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #213 - from russell
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:20:21 -0700 (PDT) From: russell <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #213 --- E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> wrote: you might be interested in #5, plus some other crap about bmw engines throughout. > This digest contains the following messages: > > 1. BMW vs MB engines > by: Steve D'Gerolamo <steved3@idt.net> > 2. >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > by: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > 3. Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > by: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > 4. Rattling exhaust > by: Tomi Hotarinen <thotarin@dazel.com> > 5. Re: Crapsman? > by: Neil Maller <neilmaller@worldnet.att.net> > 6. Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? > by: <GRCouture@aol.com> > 7. test > by: DiVincenti, A.J. <ADiVin@lsusd.lsumc.edu> > 8. Re: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > by: Adam Fila <ylf@mindless.com> > 9. RE: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > by: Crumpley Jr, Robert E <CRUMPLRE@bp.com> > 10. Re: [E36M3] Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding > noise? > by: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > > -------------------- 1 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:09:41 -0400 > From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > Subject: BMW vs MB engines > > company, than BMW does.<<<< > Only one thing to say: McLaren F1. > John > =============================================== > Good point....why is McLaren running MB engines when they were using BMW > for their F1? Why is McLaren consistently beating Williams....better > chassis??? better engines???? better drivers??? I suspect the latter > although it would be interesting to see how MH and DC would do against > Ferrari if they were driving Williams cars. SD (PS- I'll be trying a > Mercedes engined car for the first time in my life....I've got a 2001 > E55 > on order to replace my 89 535i. Too long a wait on the M5 and I wanted > a > slushbox to cope with the traffic here in the NYC area. I guess I've > evolved into a "geezer"!) > > > > > ========================================= > Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage > 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com > > > > -------------------- 2 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:37:58 PDT > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > Yes, I'm also guilty of succumbing to the lemming syndrome on this one. > I > ordered the buffer stop from my dealer, and waited two weeks for > delivery > (must be lots of other lemmings out there!). > > This weekend, while prepping for a driver's school, I installed the > buffer > stop, and immediately saw that the claims made for it were totally > untrue. > > Perhaps it's use is somehow related to the movement of the > engine/transmission during a front-end collision? If not, what other > possible use could there be for it? > > At least, it fills that vacant space on the x-brace. When the x-brace > was > installed, I was wondering what mounted to that vertical bracket. Now > (unfortunately), I know. Good thing it only cost $12+. > > -rb > > >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 01:20:46 EDT > >From: RonStygar@aol.com > >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > > >Jim, > > Amazing the people that bought this bridge. Nice to see you've come > up > >with the same conclusion. For cars that come with an x-brace this part > > >shows up only on the Z3's. It doesn't show up on the E36 convertible. > > >Connect to Dale's image page: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/ > > and check out buffer and buffer1.jpg > > > > Ron@unofficialbmw.com FLY BMW Marlborough, CT > > www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:48:37 -0700 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > It may relate to a different chassis/engine configuration. For > instance, a > convertible may be 'loose' enough to need it. Or maybe we just don't > drive our > cars that hard? :) > > Jim > > Ron Buchalski wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:37:58 PDT > > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > > Subject: >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > > > Yes, I'm also guilty of succumbing to the lemming syndrome on this > one. I > > ordered the buffer stop from my dealer, and waited two weeks for > delivery > > (must be lots of other lemmings out there!). > > > > This weekend, while prepping for a driver's school, I installed the > buffer > > stop, and immediately saw that the claims made for it were totally > untrue. > > > > Perhaps it's use is somehow related to the movement of the > > engine/transmission during a front-end collision? If not, what other > > possible use could there be for it? > > > > At least, it fills that vacant space on the x-brace. When the x-brace > was > > installed, I was wondering what mounted to that vertical bracket. Now > > (unfortunately), I know. Good thing it only cost $12+. > > > > -rb > > > > >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 01:20:46 EDT > > >From: RonStygar@aol.com > > >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie > > > > > >Jim, > > > Amazing the people that bought this bridge. Nice to see you've > come up > > >with the same conclusion. For cars that come with an x-brace this > part > > >shows up only on the Z3's. It doesn't show up on the E36 > convertible. > > >Connect to Dale's image page: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/ > > > and check out buffer and buffer1.jpg > > > > > > Ron@unofficialbmw.com FLY BMW Marlborough, CT > > > www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:15:08 -0500 > From: "Tomi Hotarinen" <thotarin@dazel.com> > Subject: Rattling exhaust > > I have a rattle in my stock exhaust just past the cats before the > muffler. > It is not a broken bracket or anything and seems like I mostly notice it > when the car is started cold. I banged on it around the cats and can > hear a > rattle coming from inside the pipes or maybe cat. Are the pipes dual > layered > which could have come apart? Any insight would be great. I would rather > not > have to replace the whole exhaust from the manifold back. Thanks. > > Tom > '95 M3 > > > > > > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:04:23 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neilmaller@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: Crapsman? > > On 6/6/00 0:25 E36M3 e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: > > >Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:11:21 EDT > >From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > ><snip> > >But the other > >day I bought an identical size wrench (16 mm) and it is Crapsman! It > is at > >least 1/8 inch wider and about 3/4 inch shorter. No wonder you guys > are > >having clearance problems. Sears has obviously changed the producer of > its > >wrenches. I have bought my last Craftsman wrench. > > Their regular wrenches are pretty crappy, but the Craftsman Pro series > are good quality, doubtless not as good as Facom or Snap-on, but more > than good enough for everyday amateur use. These are much slimmer, and > have a polished finish. Cost more, worth it. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:07:57 EDT > From: GRCouture@aol.com > Subject: Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding noise? > > Hey guys, > > I've had my '99 M3 just a little over a year now, and every now and > then, my > traction control randomly activates for a short time (1-2 seconds at > most), > producing a VERY annoying grinding noise.....it almost feels like > there's > something lodged between the wheel and the rotor - not a good sound! > > The strange thing is that it seems to only do this when I'm stuck in > traffic, > and I go to get the car moving again - for that brief period between > 1000-1500rpm in first. It doesn't happen all the time, but i've been > noticing it maybe once or twice a week now. > > I'm having the inspection done in 2 weeks anyways, but I just wanted to > see > if this has happened to any of you. > > Thanks in advance, > Gregg > '99 Estoril Blue > http://members.tripod.com/gcouture/m3 > > > > -------------------- 7 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:19:05 -0500 > From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsusd.lsumc.edu> > Subject: test > > test > > > > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:32:14 -0400 > From: "Adam Fila" <ylf@mindless.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > > I think his point was, that McLaren put a BMW V12 in the F1 (road car) > which > was arguably the ultimate supercar ever built. This engine went on to > have > a lot more racing success both in the McLaren F1 GTR at Le Mans (a win > and a > number of top five finishes) in FIA GT (many victories) and finally in > the > LMR with a win at Le Mans and many in ALMS. This engine is famous for > it's > reliability and efficiency. Engine failures for these V12's are almost > unheard of. (BTW McLaren was running Peugeot engines in their Formula 1 > cars until 1994 - the decision to go with a BMW engine in the F1 road > car > was made before the partnership with Mercedes) > > The genius behind this engine was BMW's Paul Rosche, who was also > responsible for the turbocharged BMW 4 cylinder F1 engines of the 80's. > These were the most powerful F1 engines every build, making in excess of > 1400 hp in race trim ! (out of a 1.4 liter 4 cylinder !) Rosche also > designed the M1 engine, and started the work on the new BMW F1 V10 > before he > retired last year. > > The new V10 is being designed by BMW in house, using BMW engineers in a > facility built by BMW specifically for this purpose. In contrast, > Mercedes > when they decided they need to get into F1 went out and bought a racing > engine manufacturer Ilmore who had an F1 engine already. > > Mercedes took 3 years to get to the top in F1 with this engine (starting > in > 95, they got their first Grand Prix win in 97, and first constructor > championship in 98). BMW is in their first year now. They are already > 3rd > in points - something Mercedes didn't achieve until 98 - and might do > even > better with better driver talent. While the BMW engine is not currently > as > good as the Ilmore (ehm, Mercedes) or Ferrari ones, it is already > exceeding > most insiders' expectations for a first year development, one starting > from > scratch at that. I would give them a year or two before starting to > judge > the success of the program. > > -Adam Fila > '95 M3 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:15 AM > Subject: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > > > > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:09:41 -0400 > > From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > > Subject: BMW vs MB engines > > > > company, than BMW does.<<<< > > Only one thing to say: McLaren F1. > > John > > =============================================== > > Good point....why is McLaren running MB engines when they were using > BMW > > for their F1? Why is McLaren consistently beating Williams....better > > chassis??? better engines???? better drivers??? I suspect the latter > > although it would be interesting to see how MH and DC would do against > > Ferrari if they were driving Williams cars. SD (PS- I'll be trying a > > Mercedes engined car for the first time in my life....I've got a 2001 > E55 > > on order to replace my 89 535i. Too long a wait on the M5 and I > wanted a > > slushbox to cope with the traffic here in the NYC area. I guess I've > > evolved into a "geezer"!) > > > > > > > > > > ========================================= > > Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage > > 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:37:35 -0500 > From: "Crumpley Jr, Robert E" <CRUMPLRE@bp.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] BMW vs MB engines > > > > company, than BMW does.<<<< > > Only one thing to say: McLaren F1. > > John > > =============================================== > > Good point....why is McLaren running MB engines when they were using > BMW > > for their F1? ...SNIP>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Is the engine in McLaren's race car even built in-house by Mercedes > like the BMW engine or is it really an Ilmor engine? > > Bobby Crumpley > > > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ever happend to you....traction control/grinding > noise? > > How many miles on the car? Does the ASC yellow light flicker when this > happens? Is the grinding noise very loud or barely audible? > > Here's a thought: Maybe it's some sort of harmonics with the > clutch/engine > interface with the low rpms? When I first picked up my car, I never had > that...well, because I didn't know how to drive a stick and was engaging > the > clutch at a fairly high rpm in order to prevent stalling. Now that I'm > better > at working the clutch, I engage sometimes at a pretty low rpm > (1000-1200rpms) > and I here a little shudder... > > FWIW, > Chester > > --- GRCouture@aol.com wrote: > > I've had my '99 M3 just a little over a year now, and every now and > then, my > > traction control randomly activates for a short time (1-2 seconds at > most), > > producing a VERY annoying grinding noise.....it almost feels like > there's > > something lodged between the wheel and the rotor - not a good sound! > > > > The strange thing is that it seems to only do this when I'm stuck in > traffic, > > > > and I go to get the car moving again - for that brief period between > > 1000-1500rpm in first. It doesn't happen all the time, but i've been > > noticing it maybe once or twice a week now. > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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#5. WTB catalytic converter - from Tomi Hotarinen
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:27:38 -0500 From: "Tomi Hotarinen" <thotarin@dazel.com> Subject: WTB catalytic converter Well, it might be my cat that is making the rattle so my next question is whether anyone has bought the Supersprint center resonator that eliminates the cat and their opinions of it. I suspect that it will throw a check engine light, but does the car run bad because of it? Also I would consider buying a used one if someone has the center exhaust section laying around for some reason. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Tom '95 M3

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#6. Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re:  X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper thingie Ron, Ron et Al, I remember reading somewhere that the buffer stop is actually positioned very close (within 1/4") in some cars and not close at all on others. As I recall, in this example, it was closer in the '95 car than the other one (a '96 I think..) Maybe they chahged the design of the oil pan at some point, making the buffer stop useless? -Matt --- Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:37:58 PDT > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: >Subject: Re: <FS> X-Brace oil pan bumper > thingie > > Yes, I'm also guilty of succumbing to the lemming > syndrome on this one. I > ordered the buffer stop from my dealer, and waited > two weeks for delivery > (must be lots of other lemmings out there!). > > This weekend, while prepping for a driver's school, > I installed the buffer > stop, and immediately saw that the claims made for > it were totally untrue. > > Perhaps it's use is somehow related to the movement > of the > engine/transmission during a front-end collision? > If not, what other > possible use could there be for it? > > At least, it fills that vacant space on the x-brace. > When the x-brace was > installed, I was wondering what mounted to that > vertical bracket. Now > (unfortunately), I know. Good thing it only cost > $12+. > > -rb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

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#7. DIY HID Instructions Completed - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:38:15 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: DIY HID Instructions Completed For those that have been patiently waiting, they're finally done. Directions for the HID conversion for the E36 can be viewed in a PDF on our website. http://www.uucmotorwerks.com go to "Tech Tips" go to "E36 HID Conversion" Have fun! Ben Liaw UUC Motorwerks

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#8. [E36M3] electronic boost controller options. - from Anthony Pun
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:55:07 -0400 From: "Anthony Pun" <apun@paradigm4.com> Subject: [E36M3] electronic boost controller options. Hey Everyone, I'm looking to hook up an electronic boost controller to my '96 Mechtech turbo M3. I'm interested in hearing about the kind's that any of you might be using, particularly the A'PEXi AVC-R. http://www.apexi-usa.com/superavcr2.htm Anyway, thanks in advance for any advise. Tony

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#9. What makes a good vendor 2 - from Mark Kelly
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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:13:42 -0400 From: Mark Kelly <mark@garden.net> Subject: What makes a good vendor 2 I'm usually a reticent observer, however I want to add my 2 cents to this "good vendor" thread. I agree with Jim in his initial assessment of ProParts. In my experience, their follow-up sucks. I have asked them to get back to me on a few occasions, only to get a response VERY late or not at all. However, on a good note, I also must say they have been very helpful when you speak to them on the phone. I personally feel that Bob Tunnell deserves accolades for his generous giving of advice. On a number of occasions he has taken the time to send me pages of email help and explanations. Every company has hurdles to negotiate and obstacles to overcome. I like the guys at ProParts, I like their prices, I just hate not getting good follow-up. If ProParts can sort out their customer follow-through problems, they will always get my business. Mark Kelly

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#10. Re: [E36M3] electronic boost controller options. - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] electronic boost controller options. Anthony, I use the AVC-R in my '95. It's the best. Works great in an M3. Join the bigboostgruppe at onelist.com and do a search. I think I posted some information about this unit when I installed it. -Matt --- Anthony Pun <apun@paradigm4.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:55:07 -0400 > From: "Anthony Pun" <apun@paradigm4.com> > Subject: [E36M3] electronic boost controller > options. > > Hey Everyone, > > I'm looking to hook up an electronic boost > controller to my '96 Mechtech > turbo M3. > > I'm interested in hearing about the kind's that any > of you might be using, > particularly the A'PEXi AVC-R. > > http://www.apexi-usa.com/superavcr2.htm > > Anyway, thanks in advance for any advise. > > Tony > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

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