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#1. SuperSprint Header Question - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:43:04 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: SuperSprint Header Question Has anyone tried the SuperSprint header on an OBDII M3? Is there a noticeable difference? Are there any problems with the Jim C. software? Is the install a PITA? Thanks, -Wayne
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Vanos - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:54:32 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Vanos >What are the syptoms of a broken vanos? mine have never been "broken" to the extent that they dont't work. they just making a loud noise that sounds like a chain rattling againse plastic. i've been told that if they break, then the cam timing will not be advanced and you'd lose a bit of low end power. maybe not even enough for some people to notice. (people like my mom for instance.) on the other hand, i've also been told that if they break in a horrible way, they might cause the timing chain to break, which would cause the valves to slam into the pistons, meaning you buy a new engine. but that this case would be rare. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#3. Re: VANOS Problem - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:59:01 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: VANOS Problem >Sean, if your car is truly the ragged-out POS that you have represented it >to be, you may have a low oil pressure problem. This is typical in >worn-out >engines. re: the odds that three VANOS units were incorrectly installed, >did the same mechanic do the procedure each time? If so, it is a very good >possibility that he is screwing it up. I've seen similar incidents. three different mechanics have done my vanoses. two in one shop, and one from a completly different shop. i'm much more inclined to believe it's oil starvation, or low oil pressure or something like that. the engine IS really ragged out. lowish (but equal compression), overheated 4-5 times, warped head (that was then machined flat), etc. i'm surprised it still puts out full power. (or it's not full it's close enough that my butt dyno can't tell the difference) i know it's enough power to keep up with michael lord's lightweight. ;-P ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] SuperSprint Header Question - from Land Shark
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:59:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Land Shark <lndshrk@xmission.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] SuperSprint Header Question On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Wayne Miller wrote: > Has anyone tried the SuperSprint header on an OBDII M3? Is there a > noticeable difference? Are there any problems with the Jim C. software? Is > the install a PITA? Putting headers on OBD-II cars is not recommended for many reasons: Examples: 1) It's illegal as all hell 2) It's illegal as all hell. Not to mention that headers do almost nothing if the cats are left in place and removing the cats well.. that's even more "no-no" Jim
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Let's throw out the Vanos! - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:09:19 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Let's throw out the Vanos! > > Vanos is good for street driving, but is useless for a race car. > > *Conclusion*: Throw out your Vanos, if you have problems with it in your > > race car. > > I see you failed logic in your classes in school. > > If vanos sucks so much, please explain to the class why > it's used on ALL the Euro motors?? > > There is NO problem with VANOS.. there are two problems surrounding > VANOS: > > 1) Finicky owners (who should be driving Lexus/Toyota) to think that > every little noise is a failure. > > and > > 2) (In Sean H's case) Some inability to fix what is without a doubt > the simplest variable cam system on the market.. An untrained > chimpanzee should be able to replace this gear properly. > > Jim Conforti > > PS: I've never SEEN a true "VANOS FAILURE"!! i hate to disagree with jim (and it's only a partial disagree) but i'm gonna try it... it's about these lines... > > Vanos is good for street driving, but is useless for a race car. > > I see you failed logic in your classes in school. > > If vanos sucks so much, please explain to the class why > it's used on ALL the Euro motors?? i thought vanos systems were to change the cam timing so they were "optimal" at different RPM ranges. for a street car that's obviously a good thing. but a race car (usually) spends most of it's time in a very small rpm range. so the vanos has less usefulness. and in racing my M3, (4500-7000 RPM range only) it's not of any use because i'm in the same "vanos range" the whole time right? i guess the vanos is helping me when i enter the track. and when i spin and need to get going again, but for hot laps the vanos is not doing anything for me, is it? i'm not saying you should take off your vanos. ESPECIALLY for a street car. it should be easy to fix, dangit. but for a race engine i'm not so sure removing the vanos (just for one less thing to break) isn't a good idea. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Ground wires.. - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:15:01 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ground wires.. >I'm pretty sure that its not the >speaker wires b/c why would it start now, it didn't do this with the stock >system, and everything else is my own wires. be careful about thinking this way. conversations with the person who designed the stock radio for the 95 M3 (isn't the internet great?) had him admit that they put a low pass filter on the radio portion of the head unit becauase they had some engine noise problems that they couldn't get rid of any other way. (meaning they just cut all the high frequencies off to get rid of the noise, can you say CHEEEESY!?!?!?) later versions apparently aren't this way (i guess they solved the problem for real) so... just because the wires worked for the stock system doens't mean they'll work for a "real" system. P.S. i doubt your speaker wires are the cause too... i'm using the stock speaker wires in the door panels (not in the chassis) and am having no problems. but if you run out of other ideas, don't dismiss that as a possible cause. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Let's throw out the Vanos! - from mill
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:43:04 +0200 From: mill <mill99@gmx.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Let's throw out the Vanos! > I see you failed logic in your classes in school. They didn't offer a course called "logic" in my school, but I wouldn't have attended it anyway. Sounds like a course for people with a disability in analytical thinking ;-) > If vanos sucks so much, please explain to the class why >it's used on ALL the Euro motors?? I didn't say that Vanos sucks. Vanos is a great thing for street driving, but on a race track, where spend 98% of the time in the 4000+ rpm range it really doesn't do much. And if you have a repeating mechanical problem with it (like Sean Hester seems to have), I would consider disabling or entirely removing that system. Doesn't this sound logic to you? Simple engineering principle: If something breaks all the time and you can't do much about it, remove it, unless it is really important. >There is NO problem with VANOS.. there are two problems surrounding >VANOS: > >1) Finicky owners (who should be driving Lexus/Toyota) to think that > every little noise is a failure. > > and > > 2) (In Sean H's case) Some inability to fix what is without a doubt > the simplest variable cam system on the market.. An untrained > chimpanzee should be able to replace this gear properly. In Sean's case, replacing the Vanos gear didn't really solve the problem . Maybe he needs a graduated chimpanzee to take car of his engine. > PS: I've never SEEN a true "VANOS FAILURE"!! Good to hear that! Cheers, (time for a weekend beer) mill
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: 0-60 times - from Ken Robb
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:29:34 -0700 From: Ken Robb <kenrobb@willisallen.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 0-60 times always backup! Land Shark wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:40:13 -0600 > From: Land Shark <lndshrk@xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 0-60 times > > At 07:32 PM 6/15/00 -0500, david tow wrote: > >Just for the record; Car and Driver's quickest M3 was recorded as 5.3 > >seconds from zero to 60, and 14 seconds flat (at 100 mph) on the quarter > >mile run. It was featured in a comparison test with a 300ZX, a Supra, and > >a VR4. The article was named, I believe, "Mid-life Crisis". > > > >The 95 yellow M3 there, of course, won the gold with ease. > > Thanks David.. I knew the number was somewhere and it's 5.3 > > I must have too many numbers in my brain ;) > > Jim C. > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/
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#9. RE:Suspension Version 3.0 Review - from Fadeev, Alex
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:33:56 -0400 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <Alex.Fadeev@gte.com> Subject: RE:Suspension Version 3.0 Review "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> wrote: > > One comment that I have heard before that I concur with is > concerning the "adjustable" camber plates. It isn't as easy > as one would think to adjust them. You can just loosen 3 bolts > and adjust the camber but then your alignment will be off > (because your tie-rods will move). Wayne, Can you quantify the alignment change after adjusting the camber? In what direction does toe move? I've heard some people argue that the alignment is 'all screwed'. Others say that toe does change, but the difference is negligible. What do you say? TIA, alex f
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: 1998 M3/4 Post Mortem - from Ken Robb
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:08:33 -0700 From: Ken Robb <kenrobb@willisallen.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 1998 M3/4 Post Mortem If one uses the car for business leases have some additional value. It is easier to establish the cost per month than figuring what depreciation rate to use and you don't have to worry about recapture or running out of depreciation if you keep the car more than a few years. I have only leased cars twice and then only because of special low money rates that made it almost the same as paying cash. We all may remember how happy lessees of Audis were when the "unintended" acceleration debacle cut their resale value to almost nothing. That "put" option was very valuable to them. I agree w/Hunter that most of the time a lease just involves another profit center, in addition to the manufacturer, distributor, and dealer that has to show a profit and we all know who pays it. Ken Robb Hunter Johnson wrote: > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:10:28 +0100 > From: "Hunter Johnson" <HJOHNSON@dbmail.debis.de> > Subject: Re: 1998 M3/4 Post Mortem > > In the typical spirit of answering questions no-one is asking, > the dust has pretty much settled on the sale of the M3/4 last > weekend. For those of you who care about such things, here is > what this beast cost me. If you don't care, please don't flame > me...just page down. > > I bought a 1998 M3/4 in Feb '98 and paid $855 above dealer > cost, with the help of the BMW CCA M3/4 customer cash rebate > offered at the time. In July 1999 I was transferred to Germany, > and since I was offered company cars, the BMW stayed home, being > driven by my 60 year old mother-in-law. During this time she paid > me a stipend to partially offset the monthly payment and > insurance. > > I leased the car from BMW Financial Services for 36 months. When > I bought the car, I was the controller of Chrysler Financial's > lease group, so I was keenly aware of the drawbacks of leasing. > Still, I leased because I was concerned how the vehicle might > hold up given an intention of autocrossing, etc., and BMW had > a competitive interest rate. > > I bought the car after attending some driving schools in a E36 > 325i; I quickly decided (which is of course against what everyone, > including myself, suggests) that I needed "better equipment". > Modifying the 325i would have cost several thousands of dollars and > which would have had minimal residual value, and the 325i still > wouldn't have the power of the M3. > > When the car was sold it had 29,xxx miles on it. I decided to sell > it since (1) I didn't think I'd move back to the U.S. before late > 2001, (2) I was concerned about the market values of these cars > given the new 330i coming to market, plus the much lower than > expected cost of the E46 M3, (3) by selling now I could avoid > some cost from terminating the lease and perhaps make a bit of money > (with respect to my payoff), and (4) if I got back to the States a > few years from now I could always buy a 4 or 5 year old M3/4 for much > less than I'd sell mine for now. > > Here's the cost and cost per mile of this car: > > Depreciation $8,420 29.0 cents per mile > Interest 6,448 22.2 > Insurance 4,050 14.0 > Taxes 1,295 4.5 > Fuel 1,040 3.6 > Maintenance 1,010 3.5 > Stipend (2,200) (7.6) > Total $20,063 69.2 > > The fuel assumes 20 mpg and $1.30 a gallon, and only through 16,000 > miles; thereafter, my in-laws paid for gas. Maintenance includes 5 oil > changes (Mobil 1) between warranted scheduled maintenance, and four > new Pirelli P7000 Supersport tires mounted by the dealer. Taxes are > Michigan sales tax plus Luxury Tax. > > These do not include around $1,420 of aftermarket accessories on the > car when sold (VDO gauges, ECE headlamps, X Brace, UUC Z3 shifter, etc.). > > The BMW lease had a residual value of 65% (36 month low milage = 12,000 > miles a year)of the MSRP ($44,915) with a 7.15% APR. This compares to the > normal loan from my credit union which was offering 7.00% interest for > 60 month loans. The BMW lease added a $680 acquisition fee and a $350 > fee at lease end if you early terminated or returned the vehicle to BMW > (if you bought the car at lease-end, this fee did not apply). > > At delivery, the lease required $633 more at signing than the loan, but > the monthly payment was $300 less. At the sale, had I borrowed for the > car I would have received $9,902 in cash more than with the lease, since > the loan would have been paid down to a much lower payoff figure. > > Discounting the cash flows at 10% (what I use for long-term investments) > gives the result that the lease cost $287 more than the loan. If the > differences in cash flow were invested at 12.96%, the loan and lease > would cost the same. If you only invested your money at 6% (risk-free > rate) then the lease cost $717 more. > > Before I give you my conclusions, let me say that the E36 M3/4 was my > first new car since my 1983 Volkswagen GTI, and it was pretty much as > fun to drive. But overall, the delivery quality of the car was average > for the industry (I had four "conditions" on the car when delivered, > two concerning the paint finish), and I find that the quality of the > E36 cars is somewhat worse than the E30s (I had a 86 325es and a 87 > 325is, and a 93 325i). > > Here are the conclusions: > > Having bought several used cars over the past 10 years, I typically > apply the formula of 80% value rentention for year one and 85% for > year 2, etc. using the MSRP as a base figure, and assuming 15,000 > miles per year. Using this formula my M3/4 should have had depreciation > of $14,372. With Porsches, I use 85% for year 1 and 90% thereafter, > so the M3/4, if it were a Porsche, would have deprecation of $10,555. > So overall, the depreciation on the M3/4 was better than I expected. > (The BMW lease expected $15,720 of depreciation from MSRP after 3 years, > but ALG, the industry standard residual value gurus said the car'd have > depreciation of closer to $17,000 -- BMW "bumped" the residual to help > sell these cars). > > In general, however, buying new cars is expensive. The cost per mile of > nearly 70 cents and driving 1,250 miles a month means a monthly cost of > $865. Ouch. For the $14,868 I spent on depreciation and interest, I could > have bought some fairly nice used iron and owned it outright...an E30 M3 > comes quickly to mind. I think I've bought my last new car. > > If you must buy new, don't lease. Even though you have to pay sales tax > up front on the whole car when you buy (with a lease you pay on the total > lease payment, including interest, but only as long as the monthly payments > go), the front and back-end fees the lease companies charge make leasing > too unattractive. Plus, you have the potential turn-in hassle of arguing > over what constitutes "normal" wear and tear. Buying a lease is essentially > a balloon financing contract plus a put option on the underlying asset -- > the car. This option costs money, but it is extremely difficult to value > this option. So the lessor charges you an arm and a leg for this option. > Unless you really think you might use the option (like you'll drive the car > on the track and have VANOS problems), most likely you're paying for something > you won't use. > > Leases also lock you into the financing contract a bit more. They charge you > an Early Termination fee. Also, lessors typically will NOT allow you to > sublet the vehicle. BMW Financial says that you can sublet it, but the original > lessee retains the default risk -- if the new owner assuming your lease fails > to make a payment, BMW Financial looks to YOU. Now YOU have to repo the car, > etc. > > If you have any questions, drop me a line. > > Hunter > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/
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#11. [WTB] Schroth Rallye 3 harness(es) - from George M. Kofman
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:17:06 -0500 From: "George M. Kofman" <sdg2@execpc.com> Subject: [WTB] Schroth Rallye 3 harness(es) looking for a used [but in good working order] Rallye 3 to fit my E36 M3/4 Please reply via private email to sdg2@execpc.com GMK '97 M3 sedan