E36M3 #264

Thursday, June 22, 2000 05:00:40

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #262 - from Carlos Lopez
#2. Re: [E36M3] HELP ME!!!!!! - from Jim Powell
#3. 0-60 times - from Paul Elliott
#4. RE: [E36M3] 225 vs. 245 Front tires - from Jim Bassett
#5. RE: 225 vs. 245 Front tires - from Steve Grigory
#6. 17x7.5 Rims - from Vishal Shah
#7. FS: Used M3 exhaust in Wash DC area. - from Lee
#8. Bike Rack meets trailer hitch - from Thomas E. Tice
#9. Re: [E36M3] Track Tires/Trailer Hitch - from Alain van der Heide
#10. M3/4 FS - from Dave Hogg

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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #262 - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:49:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #262 John Van Houten wrote: >Anybody know anything about the road course that clubs use at >Michigan Speedway? I'm jonesing to get some more track time, but I'm >not sure if its worth the drive time and relatively high expense (more >than most club schools) for a road course at an oval track. John, I don't know too much about it as I haven't done this event myself. But what I do know is this is the same course the One Lap has used for the past two years I've watched. There's an infield course and about 1/4 of the oval is also used. One thing for sure you WILL find out what your top speed is! Oh yeah bring extra brake pads since you have to brake like crazy to make turn 1. Short answer: typical use of oval + infield course. I thought I saw a video clip of you at one of these somewhere? Am I imagining things? Anyhoo, for anyone else interested, they still need students. http://motorcitybmwcca.org Click on events to download an application, also download the tech inspection sheet. Carlos 91 M3 PS See you there if you go. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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#2. Re: [E36M3] HELP ME!!!!!! - from Jim Powell
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:56:44 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] HELP ME!!!!!! Yo Ho, My email has been spotty lately, getting late deliveries, whazzup with your cooling system? Get it figured out yet? Jim Joe Dyer wrote: > > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:04:36 -0700 > From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] HELP ME!!!!!! > > Bill you should NEVER change suspension geometry without changing alignment! > > Joe Dyer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: B Horlacher <Horlacher@carrindustries.net> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:39 AM > Subject: [E36M3] HELP ME!!!!!! > > > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:38:56 -0400 > > From: "B Horlacher" <Horlacher@carrindustries.net> > > Subject: HELP ME!!!!!! > > > > I swapped my strut bearing a few months ago, my tires cupped. I just had > > my new AVS Sports mounted and had an alignment done as well, guess what > > my tires are cupping again..... What is causing me this frustration? > > Should I just swap the bearings back? I really like the crisp turn that > > I get with the hats swapped, but I am getting tired of a constant > > vibration due to the tires cupping... > > > > > > Please email me with your comments and opinions, > > Sincerely, > > Bill Horlacher > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************

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#3. 0-60 times - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:34:18 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: 0-60 times >0-60 times generally mean nothing to me, and they probably shouldn't to most people who track their car -- exactly when during a hot lap are you going 0 mph?< Granted, to those who are more concerned about how their car performs on the racetrack, this value is completely irrelevant. However, like it or not, the 0-60 measure is one of the most oft quoted and used values when comparing off the line power of performance oriented cars. And for that reason, it still has some value for those interested in this rather monolithic measure. And, until they come out with an accelerometer I can hook up to my car easily and conveniently to determine accurately the 30 - 70 or 50 - 100 times, we'll continue to value the 0-60 measure as an accessible and easily quantifiable measure. I only wish there were a way to remove the clutch from the equation and still measure off the line performance. _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3; <15000 mi; Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger

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#4. RE: [E36M3] 225 vs. 245 Front tires - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:40:42 -0700 From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 225 vs. 245 Front tires > I'm wondering what will be the difference (driving-wise) if I choose to > use 245/40-17 for my front tires instead of the 225 stock ones? I think the most noticeable thing will be the steering will feel heavier; you're now trying to turn a wider tire (greater resistance). I like the feel. What size wheels would the 245s be going on? Stock 7.5"? Dunno if that will work, others may know. > Why does BMW choose 225 for the front tires in the first place? I believe they changed from 235 all around on the 95s to 225F/245R in 96+ to increase understeer, from what I've heard/read. An understeering car is "safe" for an "inexperienced" driver - for most of us on this & other lists, we try to get rid of the understeer :-) Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - same size tires, more negative camber, new sway bars - NOW it feels "right" :-)

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#5. RE: 225 vs. 245 Front tires - from Steve Grigory
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:05:48 -0700 From: "Steve Grigory" <sgrigory@alchemedia.com> Subject: RE: 225 vs. 245 Front tires I have 245/40's up front (and in back) on 8.5-inch 10-spokes and I love them. To be honest I do not notice a big difference from the previous 235/40's but if I had moved up from 225/40's then I'm sure the difference would be more noticable. Personally, I would not mount 245's on the stock 7.5-inch rim, 8-inch would be the minimum. steve 95 M3

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#6. 17x7.5 Rims - from Vishal Shah
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:52:21 -0700 From: "Vishal Shah" <VShah@home.com> Subject: 17x7.5 Rims Would it be a bad idea to put 17x7.5 rims all the way around on my 97 M3?? The Axis rims that I want only come in 17x7.5. I really do not like the idea of going up to 18s. Vishal '97 Dinan S/Cd M3

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#7. FS: Used M3 exhaust in Wash DC area. - from Lee
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:31:41 -0400 From: "Lee" <jlee@boo.net> Subject: FS: Used M3 exhaust in Wash DC area. Anyone interested in a used M3 exhaust ? I live in the Washington DC area. Its got 38K miles and its from a 97 M3 Coupe. Let me know if your interested. Thanks Jeff (soon to have a Supersprint)

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#8. Bike Rack meets trailer hitch - from Thomas E. Tice
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:59:25 -0400 From: "Thomas E. Tice" <tetice@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Bike Rack meets trailer hitch Regarding the thread on the bike racks, I have roof top racks for E30s, E28s and E34s that attached to the rain gutters which all worked fine. I am skeptical of any rack that rests on the paint regardless of what you put in between (the stoneguard material may work fine though). For this reason, I don't like the Thule or Yakima solutions for E36 cars - they have four feet that rest on the paint while clamping to the factory pegs under the weather stripping. IMHO the ultimate solution for a bike rack is to use the 1.25" receiver hitch and as light as possible hitch mounted bike carrier as described by Steve below. This may be more expensive but you have the benefit of being able to load and unload the bike in a typical garage and an even bigger benefit if you ever forget that the bike is on top before you enter your garage (fortunately I didn't learn that the hard way - I learned it from my brother - it was only a Volvo). Thanks to Steve for the tip on reinforcing the trunk mount for the bike rack use. Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '99 540/6 Steve Grigory wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:04:37 -0700 > From: "Steve Grigory" <sgrigory@alchemedia.com> > Subject: M3 hitch reply > > Tom, > > I have a 95 M3 and had the Da'Lan (I think that's how you spell it) > installed right after I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago. I did it > primarily for attaching a bike rack. > > I had it installed and to be honest it was only about a month ago that I > even bothered to take the spare tire out of the trunk and look at the "bike > rack reinforcement" the shop installed. And I only did that for a buddy in > Denver who is installing the same hitch for the same reason. > > So far, it's been great. If they had to do any modifications to the rear > fascia, then it's all underneath since the external view is unchanged. > > I have a pic of the trunk reinforcement if you'd like to see it. I had been > told by both Da'Lan and the shop that did the install that it was needed for > bike racks since bike racks put a greater vertical load on the hitch than a > trailer does and this would cause the hitch to basically tear the trunk > apart over time. Ouch! > > I also plan to get a small trailer in the somewhat near future. Although I > could get everything to fit inside the car, it's a complete pain and you'll > eventually either pull some muscle or scar the interior and end up all > pissed off at yourself. Plus it's just very handy to attach the trailer and > take off for the track. Very nice. > > steve > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:54:18 -0400 > From: "Thomas E. Tice" <tetice@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Track Tires/Trailer Hitch > > Hi Gang, > > I'm new to this list having just purchased a '98 M3/4 (reference Hunter > Johnson's previous note on his cost of ownership). I'll be picking up > the depreciation from here on out. I'm not too worried about that but > more concerned about having fun with the car. > > I have lots of questions and hope to sponge off of others' experience > with these particular cars but for now will start with questions aimed > in 2 general areas. > > The first question is regarding a trailer hitch. > > 1) Has anyone had any experience with a trailer hitch on an M3? This > would be used for a small trailer to transport track wheels/tires etc. > Dylan makes one for the E36 cars and I have the installation > instructions (I can forward a .pdf file of this to anyone interested). > If you have experience with this, I would really appreciate some close > up photos of the installation. The instructions mention a need to trim > the rear bumper fascia on the M3 and this concerns me - otherwise it > looks to be a fairly straightforward and neat installation. > > The second area of question involves track tires and wheels. > > 2) What recommendations do others have regarding track tire sizes > (assuming 17" wheels and stock suspension - for now)? Anybody using a > 16" wheel (will it clear the brakes) - I know this is going the wrong > direction but you could possibly save some $$ on wheels/tires and with > the right choice of tires not loose much? Based upon the listings at > the Tire Rack, the choices seem quite limited but I am interested in > whether most people are having better results with same size front and > rear or with a setup like the later years stock configuration of wider > in the rear. > > As background for the tire question, I am a reasonably experienced CCA > instructor type (but not extremely hard core). I value having FUN more > than attaining absolute maximum speed (I've mellowed over the years). > FUN can be defined as driving a less capable car close to or at its > limits - yes in the past I have had TOO much fun and that results in the > need to clean the dirt and debris from the interior of the car the next > time in the pits. My previous track cars were a highly modified '74 > 2002 (a handful but great learning tool) and a '90 325iS with suspension > mods but stock engine. The 325iS was a very neutral (but anemic > compared to the M3) handling car that I had a lot of fun with and I hope > to have even more with the M3. > > Cheers, > Tom Tice > > '98 M3/4 > '99 540/6 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Track Tires/Trailer Hitch - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:58:56 -0600 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh@attglobal.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track Tires/Trailer Hitch From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> > > [snip] Anybody using a > > 16" wheel (will it clear the brakes) - I know this is going the wrong > > direction but you could possibly save some $$ on wheels/tires and with > > the right choice of tires not loose much? > [snip] > I don't think 16" wheels will clear the brakes (there may be one type/style > that does?? I'm not really sure). Tire rack stocks at least two 16" rims that will clear M3 brakes. I bought the Mille Miglias (don't know the model, but they're 5 spoke, where the spokes come out of the hub a little out from the plane of the wheel, and then angle back to the rim - yeah it's hard to describe), 'cause they were relatively cheap, and as they're my snow tire wheels, that was more of a concern than weight. I don't think they're particularly light.

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#10. M3/4 FS - from Dave Hogg
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 05:53:29 -0400 From: Dave Hogg <springwood@BlazeNet.net> Subject: M3/4 FS Red '98 M3/4 automatic, loaded, coming off lease with about 32k miles. Driver is not an aggressive driver, AX'er or anything close. If you're interested, contact Dean Dobbins 717-845-6689. He's with my local York, PA dealer, but they're good and they discount! No affiliation, etc. etc. Just thought someone might like to know. Dave Hogg

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