E36M3 #321

Saturday, July 08, 2000 07:17:50

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? - from Aleksandr Milewski
#2. Pagid Break-in Procedure - from Steve D'Gerolamo
#3. Re: [E36M3] Bedding Pagid Pads? - from Andrew E. Kalman
#4. : [E36M3] Brake Pads x Brake Dust - from Paul Elliott
#5. Re: UUC Short Shifter Installation - from Ron Buchalski
#6. Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... - from Peter Guagenti
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... - from Ron Buchalski
#8. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools - from Jay Sala
#9. Painting the brake calipers - from Peter Chang
#10. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 - from Jonathan Reiser

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#1. Re: [E36M3] BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? - from Aleksandr Milewski
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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:49:46 -0700 From: Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewski.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? At 15:36 -0500 on 000707, LePage, Alex commanded the electrons to create a missive titled "[E36M3] BMW Discontinuing M Coupe?": |Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:25:44 -0400 |From: "LePage, Alex" <alepage@fcg.com> |Subject: BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? | | |I have heard that BMW is discontinuing production of the M Coupe. Does |anyone else know this to be the case? | |-Alex This has been thrashed around quite a bit on the Z3Coupe board @bimmer.org. The consensus built from the rumor mill seems to be that there won't be any M Coupes right away, but that they will be back, possibly missing the '01 model year. Start of production was supposed to be 9/00, but demand for the E46M3 motor will likely push that back to at least 1Q01. That would mean that they could call it an '02 model. I don't think it's likely to go away entirely, though, since there will be a Z3 3.0 Coupe for '01. But this is all the sum of rumors. ;) -Zandr -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Aleksandr Milewski BMWCCA #166568 SysAdmin, 530i.org '95 540i/6spd n6mod@milewski.org '00 740i Sport Ben Lomond, CA '00 M Coupe

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#2. Pagid Break-in Procedure - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:23:40 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: Pagid Break-in Procedure For the street Pagid pads, the instruction book says "Always observe the bedding in instructions of the vehicle manufacturer" (safe comment from Pagid). In other words, no hard stops for the first 200 miles....they wont be fully bedded to the rotors for at least 500 miles. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Bedding Pagid Pads? - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 20:06:50 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bedding Pagid Pads? Re: >500 miles later, my brakes don't have the kind of "bite" that they used to. etc. You didn't mention which Pagids you have -- if they're the RS 4-2-1 (black) variant (a street legal, cold-temp track pad), I can assure you they will work much better than the stock pads. It's like throwing an anchor overboard. I seem to recall bedding them in a lot like Porterfield R-4S pads. ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com

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#4. : [E36M3] Brake Pads x Brake Dust - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:06:01 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: : [E36M3] Brake Pads x Brake Dust Kenn, >do we really think that if such a pad existed BMW would not use it because they LIKE brake dust? < You're forgetting something....BMW does NOT use pads that make black dust by choice, or because black dust is in some way good for your car....No....They use pads made by Textar or Jurid, and these pads make black dust for one simple reason: European pads are mandated to contain Graphite, which is why your high class expensive wheels look like pencil lead after 5 miles! _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3; <20000 mi; Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger

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#5. Re: UUC Short Shifter Installation - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:22:13 PDT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: UUC Short Shifter Installation Stan, I encountered two things which stretched my UUC short shifter installation time to over three hours. One was removing the plastic shifter cup (45 minutes), and the other was the infamous "bitch of a clip" (over an hour). I tried to unhook the clip with a screwdriver, but also found that I couldn't get the screwdriver positioned properly to open it up. Finally, I decided to go CRAZY and bend the living SHIT out of the clip, since the UUC kit came with a replacement clip. Installing the new clip isn't nearly as difficult. Just be sure to use something to pull down on the clip until it positively locks in place. -rb PS: The instructions mention that you can alternatively install the ERK without removing the carrier from the car, but they state that it's a two-person operation. >Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:09:56 -0400 >From: "Stan Shaw III" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> >Subject: UUC Short Shifter Installation > >I am attempting to install a UUC Short Shifter in my '96 M3, and am stuck >at the point where I need to remove the pin from the carrier. I have >already spent quite a bit of time (at least an hour) trying to lever it out >with a screwdriver, with no visible progress. I can't angle the >screwdriver due to the width of the transmission tunnel. > >I decided to try and install the ERK without removing the carrier, but >can't believe someone would be able to hold the allen bolts provided and >screw them in to the ERK when it is in the carrier (while the carrier is >already mounted). I can hold the screws in position, but they are so short >they will not reach the ERK when I grip them in my fingers. > >Am I missing something obvious here? It would seem simplier to drop the >driveshaft, or whatever. > >I can't imagine getting the pin back in, if it is this difficult to get >out... > >This has been done a zillion times already by others, right? > >HELP!!!! > > >Regards, >Stan Shaw Excell.Net >Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0407 >Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net http://www.excell.net/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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#6. Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:43:01 -0700 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... Ben, can you drop me an e-mail. I have a tech question about the UUC short shifter... Sorry for the WOB, I would've got an e-mail address off of the site, but the site's not working. -p

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:01:49 PDT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... Thanks for the URLs. I checked out one of them (Engine Oil Bible), so I think I have a better idea of how to determine the correct oil viscosity to use. However, from the numerous reponses that have been posted on this topic, recommendations from other M3 owners var widely. Anything from 5W30 to 20W50 has been recommended. Summer temps in the US don't vary THAT much to require such a drastic variance in oil viscosity. So, either: 1) Matching oil viscosity to ambient conditions is not as critical as I thought it was, or 2) There is alot of mis-information out there. -rb (still trying to determine the best oil viscosity for his BMWs) >From: nabli@attglobal.net >Reply-To: nabli@attglobal.net >To: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> >CC: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... >Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:10:22 -0400 <snip> >Yes! They most definitely have different ranges of use. > >Check out: http://www.audicoupe.demon.co.uk/engineoil_bible.html for some >good info. > >Also: http://www.vtr.org/maintain/lubricants-redline.html > > >http://dallnd6.dal.mobil.com/GIS/MobilPDS.nsf/26b7c4b33367a4a086256665004e4266/9337c5cedcf5e32e852567b60056db77?OpenDocument > >http://www.redlineoil.com/engoilti.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools - from Jay Sala
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 16:18:41 +0800 From: Jay Sala <jsala@mist.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools I switched to Porterfield R4 track pads because I regularly experienced brake fade with stock brake pads at BMW CCA driving schools, with was reducing my enjoyment of the events. The fade occurred in the course of learning the line. There was no racing involved, and I wasn't doing max-g braking for every corner either. To compensate for the brake fade I'd have to slow down part way through sessions to the point that while I was driving a racing line, I wasn't really learning how to approach my limits, nor how to take the line at speed (different braking points, different turn in points, etc). Track pads helped me use the entire session for learning, not merely driving around. Besides, brakes are a safety issue. Feeling the pedal sink as you're braking for turn 11 of Laguna Seca is no fun! Jay Sala .... no car and no fun! -------------------- 6 -------------------- >Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:05:00 -0700 >From: Ken Robb <kenrobb@willisallen.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools > >As I see it, I can use the same pad on the street and track, but I'm not >racing. We do BMWCCA driving schools to teach driving techniques in a >controlled environment. As everyone who has read the club policy knows, racing >and timing laps is not allowed.

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#9. Painting the brake calipers - from Peter Chang
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:08:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Chang <shangpchang@yahoo.com> Subject: Painting the brake calipers Will painting the brake calipers using lacquer such as Folia Tec or high temp engine enamel will cause brake fluid heating problem under extreme conditions (road racing, autocross, etc)? Thanks in advance, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#10. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 - from Jonathan Reiser
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:09:27 -0700 From: "Jonathan Reiser" <jreiser@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 > Subject: E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 > > Hey guys, > > I noticed a recent selling frenzy of E36 M3s. I guess you guys already > know that the price has been confirmed (orally) to be in the low $50s - > (~53+ fully loaded and that does include the "premium" associated with > buying such a "hot" car). What you guys may or may not know is that the > expected run for the first model year is going to be around 300. BMW has > made it very clear to the dealerships NOT to expect high numbers for the > following years. If you are on the "list" then don't be disappointed if > you end up waiting and waiting and waiting .... :-( > > Cheers, > Jim E. In the current issue of Roundel there is an interview with the Chairman of BMW NA in which he states, that provided the economy holds out, he expects sales of the E46 M3 to exceed those of the E36 M3. This would indicate to me that production numbers will be similar to those of the E36 for the 2001 model year. Then again, my dealer told me last week that they hadn't been told by BMW NA what their allocation is...so who knows.

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