E36M3 #322

Saturday, July 08, 2000 15:17:47

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#1. Re: BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? - from mill
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... - from reed nicholson
#3. Head Gaskets - from Ian Wendt
#4. Re: [E36M3] Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... - from Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks
#5. Re: UUC Short Shifter Installation - from S Lafredo
#6. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 - from nabli@attglobal.net
#7. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools - from Geof McLaughlin
#8. Shims for neg camber --need help - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#9. Re: factory oil - from russell
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: factory oil - from jay

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#1. Re: BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? - from mill
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 14:48:22 +0200 From: mill <mill99@gmx.net> Subject: Re: BMW Discontinuing M Coupe? The new 3.0 Z3 Coupe has just been launched here in Euroland. That will certainly cannibalize the US-spec MZ3 coupe and the Mcoupe with the new S54 engine is still far away. mill >I have heard that BMW is discontinuing production of the M Coupe. Does >anyone else know this to be the case? > >-Alex

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... - from reed nicholson
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 05:54:47 PDT From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil grade (Engine) and more... >So, either: > >1) Matching oil viscosity to ambient conditions is not as critical as I >thought it was, or >2) There is alot of mis-information out there. > >-rb >(still trying to determine the best oil viscosity for his BMWs) I think both of these apply. I would say that oil viscosity, within the range that everyone suggests, is just not that critical, as evidenced by people having success with whatever they're using. But mostly, we have no way of really objectively measuring which viscosity is "best". If your engine doesn't blow up or wear out in 20,000 miles, and you can't feel a power increase or decrease, who knows what effect any particular viscosity might be having. My guess is there is no specific correct answer, which is why nobody has one, not even BMW! I think it's one less thing I need to obsess about. Now if I could just stop worrying about whether or not my trunk liner is throwing off my front/rear weight ratio! Reed/Seattle ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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#3. Head Gaskets - from Ian Wendt
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 07:48:01 -0600 From: Ian Wendt <ianwendt@bmwtoys.com> Subject: Head Gaskets Has anyone heard of a thicker head gasket that might be available? I think I remember someone saying it also had a 'cutting ring' built into it and was available through Motorsports. Does this ring any bells? If not, anyone know of a tuner version? Thanks, Ian H. Wendt ianwendt@bmwtoys.com BMWToys.com - The Ultimate Online BMW Resource

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... - from Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:08:03 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... Hi Peter, Ben is temporarily unable to check e-mail. Please feel free to send any tech questions directly to me: rob@shortshifter.com Regards, - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks * www.uucmotorwerks.com * 732-398-0001 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Guagenti" <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: [E36M3] Technical Question about UUC Short Shifter... > Ben, can you drop me an e-mail. I have a tech question about the UUC > short shifter... > > -p

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#5. Re: UUC Short Shifter Installation - from S Lafredo
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:20:09 -0400 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@fast.net> Subject: Re: UUC Short Shifter Installation I removed an ERK with the carrier in the car. It took me over an hour to remove the 3 allen bolts holding it in. 1. put allen wrench in bolt 2. allen wrench falls out, repeat step 1 3. turn allen wrench 2 degrees 4. repeat steps 1-3 for each bolt or until bolt comes out or until you loose your mind whichever comes first. :) I would highly recommend removing the carrier or looking for a different solution. HTH. S <- with a better solution :) On 7/7/00 at 11:26 PM, Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: : PS: The instructions mention that you can alternatively install the ERK : without removing the carrier from the car, but they state that it's a : two-person operation. --------------------------------oOo-------------------------------- Stephen Lafredo Philadelphia, PA slafredo@fast.net BMW NCC 97 M3/2 & 89 325ix

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#6. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 10:50:25 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 Actually I think you are right in quoting the Chairman about the expected production numbers of the E46 M3. First, I misunderstood what was meant by 300 in my original post. I should have said 300 to the end of this (2000) year. Second, The E46 is slated to be produced at the Regensburg plant - i.e., the same as the E36 M3. Production capacity is there. Finally, I think sales will depend on demand, price, and the economy among several other factors. By the looks of things, this car will sell quite well. Unless of course they throw in a V6. :-) Cheers, Jim E. Jonathan Reiser wrote: > > Subject: E36 M3 selling frenzy and the E46 M3 > > > > Hey guys, > > > > I noticed a recent selling frenzy of E36 M3s. I guess you guys already > > know that the price has been confirmed (orally) to be in the low $50s - > > (~53+ fully loaded and that does include the "premium" associated with > > buying such a "hot" car). What you guys may or may not know is that the > > expected run for the first model year is going to be around 300. BMW has > > made it very clear to the dealerships NOT to expect high numbers for the > > following years. If you are on the "list" then don't be disappointed if > > you end up waiting and waiting and waiting .... :-( > > > > Cheers, > > Jim E. > > In the current issue of Roundel there is an interview with the Chairman of > BMW NA in which he states, that provided the economy holds out, he expects > sales of the E46 M3 to exceed those of the E36 M3. This would indicate to > me that production numbers will be similar to those of the E36 for the 2001 > model year. > > Then again, my dealer told me last week that they hadn't been told by BMW NA > what their allocation is...so who knows.

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 11:08:02 -0400 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmclaughliniii@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools Ken, I respectfully disagree. First and primarily because driving skills learned carry over regardless of the type of equipment used on a car. Your statement "The purpose of the schools is somewhat negated when drivers get used to the response of their cars with their track tires, etc.and then don't get the same response on street tires in a road emergency." is a very simplistic view. Perhaps this is something that could happen when a track newbie shows up with R-compund tires and the car all tricked out in high-performance accessories, but this is far from my experience. I think that the type of individual who expects there stock car to handle the same as when it is track-prepared can be equated to the same person who thinks that because they drive a M3 that the laws of physics no longer apply. Second, R-compound tires and "racing" brake pads stand up much better to track conditions than street tires and stock brake pads. I am not much in the habit of spending excessively on replacing parts every time I go to the track. I have however debated whether race-prepared cars should be allowed at driver schools. The racer mentality typically shows up when race-prepared cars show up in the form of late passes in corners, passing without signals, etc. I have come to conclusion however that incidents such as this are usually only due to a few bad apples in the bunch and that the proper response would be harsh measures taken by the event organizers on offenders. At 03:16 PM 7/7/00 -0500, Ken Robb wrote: >Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:05:00 -0700 >From: Ken Robb <kenrobb@willisallen.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads and driving schools > >As I see it, I can use the same pad on the street and track, but I'm not >racing. We do BMWCCA driving schools to teach driving techniques in a >controlled environment. As everyone who has read the club policy knows, racing >and timing laps is not allowed. The LA chapter even says anyone caught timing >laps will be sent home. If I were in charge of school policy only street legal, >insured cars on non-R compound tires would be allowed. We are now running >race-specific schools for those who want to go that extra step. If you mean >that you should have race specific pads for competition I certainly agree with >that. When fractions of a second matter, we need all the help we can get. If >I'm at a school, driving smoothly, hitting my turn-ins, apexes, and track-out >points and you come up on me I'll be happy to let you by. I'm too lazy to be >dragging a trailer full of tires and other track-specific equipment and >spending what little free time I have between students working on the car. On >the other hand, when I do need a jack or something I'm glad you guys brought >the good stuff with you.(Thanks, Ralph and Brad). The purpose of the schools >is somewhat negated when drivers get used to the response of their cars with >their track tires, etc.and then don't get the same response on street tires in >a road emergency. And yes boys will be boys(and so will the girls, right Donna) >and when you close on me on the track I might pick up the pace a smidge to see >if you're really that fast. :-) Ken Robb > >Sean Hester wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:25:09 PDT >> From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pads x Brake Dust >> >> >Thanks for the input, but off-ramp braking is not what most of us mean by >> >high speed >> >braking. I think in terms of 110mph to 35mph downhill into turn 2 at >> >Laguna. You're >> >not doing that kind of braking on the freeway, are you? No,really. >> >> i hope by now (it's been a 2 year crusade for me) that noone thinks you can >> use the same pads on the street as the track. >> >> when i'm talking about offering a reward for the "perfect" brake pad, (no >> noise, no dust, stops good) i'm talking about a street pad. i know just >> enough physics to know that there's no hope at all of a "no noise, no dust, >> stops good at a racetrack" brake pad at all. >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> ************************************************************* >> List Commands >> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >> ************************************************************* > >-- >----------------------------------------------------- >Click here for Free Video!! >http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >************************************************************* > > > > >

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#8. Shims for neg camber --need help - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:02:38 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Shims for neg camber --need help Hi all, Can anyone point me in the right direction on a write-up on the procedure to add the washers (shims) to the front suspension for a little more negative camber. This should be easy, but want to make sure I put them in the right place plus could use the torque specs on the nuts. Was told these are Grade #8, 7/16 ID (12mm ID) washers. Should they be stainless steel, zinc, or aluminum? Thanks in advance. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 1st AS - '97 2nd AS - '98 & '99 mov'in to ESP in '01

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#9. Re: factory oil - from russell
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:44:09 -0700 (PDT) From: russell <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: factory oil my service rep at tate bmw (annapolis, md) swears that my 99 m3 was factory filled with synthetic. in fact he says that this has been the case since 1997...he also said that the engine was broken in at the factory. of course, since i'm losing about 1 quart every 1000 miles, i'm skeptical. he says that's normal for hard driving. maybe so for my $45,000 bmw, but i have a friend that used to race skip barber type cars, and still drives his volkswagon golf ($12,000) like he's on the track, and has never had to add oil to his car (175,000 miles). i've switched back to non-synthetic to try to stop the oil loss....so far it seems to be helping some. > Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:43:20 -0400 > From: nabli@attglobal.net > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oil grade (Engine) and more... > > > > Roy Kao wrote: > > > Hold on a cotton pickin' minute! If what Jim said is true then all '99 > and > newer BMW owners are in trouble! According to their specs, all '99 and > newer BMWs came FACTORY FILLED with the 5W40 synthetic; and yes, this > includes my '99 M3. Porsche also uses Mobil 1 as factory filled oil for > all > their cars off the assembly line. How can this be?! Unless they fill > the > cars with mineral-based oil at the factory and then switches to > synthetic at > the first oil change? I've heard before that synthetic oil prolongs the > > break-in period but now it really doesn't make sense... > > > No no no. THe E36 S50/52 did NOT come with synthetic oil from the > factory. > > > Read: > > > Starting with the introduction of the 1999 3 Series (E46), BMW > introduced an extended oil change > interval of approximately 15,000 miles depending on engine operating > conditions. > The engine oil change interval of approximately 15,000 miles has been > carried over to all 2000 BMW > models except the M coupe and M roadster. > To coincide with the increased oil change interval, BMW also introduced > "BMW High Performance > Synthetic Oil" (originally named "Longlife"). > > > Jim E. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: factory oil - from jay
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 10:16:22 -1000 From: jay <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: factory oil russell wrote: <<SNIP>> > i've switched back > to non-synthetic to try to stop the oil loss....so far it seems to be > helping some. AAACK!!!

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