E36M3 #325

Monday, July 10, 2000 10:07:37

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Airbag warning light - from Land Shark
#2. RE: I was rear ended... - from dbruce
#3. RE: My accident...please no flame war - from Chester Wong
#4. Re: I was rear ended... - from albert jenab
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: I was rear ended... - from Donna Seeley
#6. Re: Airbag warning light - from Ned Coonen
#7. Re: [E36M3] Painting the brake calipers - from John Van Houten
#8. I was rear ended... - from Keith Wertman
#9. tap rear seat bolts ? - from George M. Kofman
#10. Re: [E36M3] Airbag warning light - from Paul Agustin

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Airbag warning light - from Land Shark
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Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 22:11:56 -0600 From: Land Shark <lndshrk@xmission.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Airbag warning light At 10:26 PM 7/9/00 -0500, PDumond21@aol.com wrote: >Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:21:16 EDT >From: PDumond21@aol.com >Subject: Airbag warning light > >I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with their airbag warning >light coming on. I have a '97 M3 and my airbag warning light came on today >and I'm not quite sure why. The only thing I did today was take out my >driver's side seat. I don't see how this would have anything to do with the >airbag warning light. At some point, you turned on the ignition with your drivers seat removed. Unfortunately for you, the seat belt latch on your driver seat has an electrical sensor that is used to inform the airbag if you are being a good doobie and have your belt fastened. This controls the delays used in igniting the airbag. When you turned your ignition on, the SRS control unit saw the signal from the sensor missing, and set a fault. Later.. voila.. AIRBAG LAMP! You can't reset it.. only the dealer can. Aren't EEPROM's wonderful :P Jim C.

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#2. RE: I was rear ended... - from dbruce
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:49:27 -0400 From: dbruce <dbrucepoip@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: I was rear ended... Just a few notes on any accident. The first thing you should do is call a cop. Leave your vehicle at the scene of the accident and wait for an officer to get there. If it is dangerous where you were hit, pull to he shoulder. If your fellow accidentor doesn't want to stay...inform them that they have to or they will be leaving the scene. If they still leave, great for you (if you have their license)since they will look guilty. You should say nothing to your "opponent" until the officer arrives. Under no circumstances should you yell and scream at them. Shit happens, deal with it. Once the cop arrives, wait for your "opponent" to tell his/her story. If she/he makes any mistakes, tell the officer about it. Hopefully everyone will be on the up and up. Tell your side and he will make the determination. The camera is a great idea. Pictures should be taken the second the accident is finished. If your "opponent" is walking around all healthy without a care in the world, snap pictures for future injury problems. The officer will fill out the police report. From that point on everything has been certified by the police. The insurance company will have all the facts and no ?s that will allow them to weasel out of a claim (can you say Allstate). On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:16:44 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:46:59 -0700 (PDT) >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >Subject: I was rear ended... > >Well guys, it happened this afternoon whilst heading over to Steve D's place. >I was crawling along with NYC traffic at the entrance of the Brooklyn Bridge >when a woman driving a POS Saturn tapped me from behind. I get out of the car >and here's the dialog: > >Me: "What the hell is wrong with you?" >Her: "I'm sorry...I only tapped you." >Me: "What???!?!?! You scratched my car!" >Her: "What? It's only dirt."

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#3. RE: My accident...please no flame war - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: My accident...please no flame war Hi guys. Just wanted to thank everyone who gave advice and provided comfort in understanding my feelings. I have lots of insight into what my next steps are (probably will call up the insurance agent tomorrow morning and speak "off the record"). The accident wasn't very bad. If anything, it felt like my car stalled rather than a big, hard hit. I did forget to tell you guys that when I looked back as soon as she hit me, I saw her back up and look in the mirror to signal to get out, which further added to my "what were you thinking" mind-set. In the confusion, I only managed to get her driver's license and the license plate number...DOH! I didn't get the insurance stuff. This is the first time something like that has happened. They were being facetious and said stuff like, "Sure ...take lots of picturs. You have my information. You happy now? You call your insurance agent and I'll call mine." Since I didn't really know what to do, I half-hazardardly believed her and was off since everyone in the world were honking their horns, cursing and screaming. There was no shoulder to pull onto. DOH! If you have any comments or suggestions, please reply privately as I don't want to start a flame war and continue this WOB. Safe driving, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#4. Re: I was rear ended... - from albert jenab
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:27:22 -0400 From: albert jenab <jenab@his.com> Subject: Re: I was rear ended... At 11:16 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: >Now currently, being a single, young male living in Brooklyn, NY driving an M3 >is already taking its toll on my insurance rates. I'm not sure how insurance >works as I've never had to deal with it. Basically, my understanding is that >it's a "no-fault" system, right? So if it ever gets reported, my insurance >company would have to pay for it and then my premium would go up if at all? >Also, keep in mind that my deductible (I think) is $2k. The high deductible >allowed my insurance to be cheaper and I figured that if I need the insurance, >then I will truly need it (hopefully that will never happen, knock on wood). One word: subrogate. That is, file the claim through your company, and then your company goes after her company to collect damages, including whatever rental costs you incur, up to the limit of your policy. This is much easier than dealing with her company yourself. Was recommended by someone on the list when I was having similar problems last winter. The accident was clearly her fault (rear-enders almost always are) so your rates should not go up, plus you get your deductible back after they have been paid. You get to choose who does the work. I went this way when I was rear-ended last December by some idiot in a ford van. I first tried going through her company (Geico) and I just got run around. They wouldn't pay for a rental, they indicated the body shop I had chosen (Wagonworks) was too expensive and took too long. I would lose my deductible, etc. Plus they didn't seem too anxious to get a claims adjuster out to look at the car or find a place to tow it to (rear sway bar link was busted so it was "undrivable). End result, I didn't have to lay out a dime (except temporarily for my deductible). Had a loaner Jeep for 2 weeks. Wagonworks did a fantastic job. I got my deductible back after a couple of months, and no rate increase on my renewal last month. They covered everything including the flatbed tow, rental, repair, etc. Even cab fair to the rental office. I didn't have to lift a finger. My company is Nationwide, BTW. So call up your company, tell them what happened and ask them what is involved to subrogate. Maybe they handle it differently. But even if you do lose your deductible, wouldn't you rather have an army of aggressive insurance types working for you against her company than doing it all yourself? -Al

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: I was rear ended... - from Donna Seeley
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 05:08:16 -0700 From: Donna Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: I was rear ended... Watch out for subrogation. I was asking my Farmer's agent whether to file a claim for a borderline road hazard problem, and he said I already had "a few accidents on my policy" and the hazard claim would "raise a red flag." In those three accidents, I was rear-ended - totally not my fault - but just the fact that Farmer's dealt with them put flags on the policy. Donna 0=00=0 http://www.stopyoucold.com > > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:27:22 -0400 > From: albert jenab <jenab@his.com> > > At 11:16 PM 7/9/00 -0500, Chester wrote: >> Now currently, being a single, young male living in Brooklyn, NY driving > an M3 >> is already taking its toll on my insurance rates. I'm not sure how insurance >> works as I've never had to deal with it. Basically, my understanding is that >> it's a "no-fault" system, right? So if it ever gets reported, my insurance >> company would have to pay for it and then my premium would go up if at all? >> Also, keep in mind that my deductible (I think) is $2k. The high deductible >> allowed my insurance to be cheaper and I figured that if I need the > insurance, >> then I will truly need it (hopefully that will never happen, knock on wood). > > One word: subrogate. That is, file the claim through your company, and > then your company goes after her company to collect damages, including > whatever rental costs you incur, up to the limit of your policy. This is > much easier than dealing with her company yourself. Was recommended by > someone on the list when I was having similar problems last winter. The > accident was clearly her fault (rear-enders almost always are) so your > rates should not go up, plus you get your deductible back after they have > been paid. You get to choose who does the work. > > I went this way when I was rear-ended last December by some idiot in a ford > van. I first tried going through her company (Geico) and I just got run > around. They wouldn't pay for a rental, they indicated the body shop I had > chosen (Wagonworks) was too expensive and took too long. I would lose my > deductible, etc. Plus they didn't seem too anxious to get a claims > adjuster out to look at the car or find a place to tow it to (rear sway bar > link was busted so it was "undrivable). > > End result, I didn't have to lay out a dime (except temporarily for my > deductible). Had a loaner Jeep for 2 weeks. Wagonworks did a fantastic > job. I got my deductible back after a couple of months, and no rate > increase on my renewal last month. They covered everything including the > flatbed tow, rental, repair, etc. Even cab fair to the rental office. I > didn't have to lift a finger. My company is Nationwide, BTW. > > So call up your company, tell them what happened and ask them what is > involved to subrogate. Maybe they handle it differently. But even if you > do lose your deductible, wouldn't you rather have an army of aggressive > insurance types working for you against her company than doing it all > yourself? > -Al > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#6. Re: Airbag warning light - from Ned Coonen
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:37:49 CDT From: "Ned Coonen" <ncoonen@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Airbag warning light Paul - If you start the car or even turn the key to "on" with the seat harness unplugged, you will set a fault that needs to be cleared by a <insert technical name here> electronic scanner. Go to the dealer and prepare to be raped for 5 minutes work. BTDT. ....ned. '98 M3 '88 M5 >-------------------- 9 -------------------- >Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:21:16 EDT >From: PDumond21@aol.com >Subject: Airbag warning light > >I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with their airbag warning >light coming on. I have a '97 M3 and my airbag warning light came on today >and I'm not quite sure why. The only thing I did today was take out my >driver's side seat. < <snip> ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Painting the brake calipers - from John Van Houten
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:18:04 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Painting the brake calipers I don't think it will cause heating problems, but I wouldn't be surprised if the paint turns brown/black after your first track weekend. That's what happen on my E30 with the Folia Tech stuff--my nice red calipers where more of a burnt sienna after a weekend at Summit Point. From previous discussions on various digests, it seems to me that the best option is a full powdercoat if you are hard on the brakes at the track. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Chang" <shangpchang@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: [E36M3] Painting the brake calipers > Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:08:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Peter Chang <shangpchang@yahoo.com> > Subject: Painting the brake calipers > > Will painting the brake calipers using lacquer such as > Folia Tec or high temp engine enamel will cause brake > fluid heating problem under extreme conditions (road > racing, autocross, etc)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#8. I was rear ended... - from Keith Wertman
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:34:30 -0700 From: "Keith Wertman" <m3@mybimmer.com> Subject: I was rear ended... I have had my Z3 rear ended twice in 3 years of ownership. I also have a spouse that is one of those nasty adjusters we all hate. Rule #1 Complete all paperwork and only work with the adjuster (if her company is to hard to deal with file with yours) They will go after her company and take care of getting your deductible back Rule #2 Talk to the local dealer to find out who does their repairs. Also call the local CCA President and ask them. Typically they know someone who does great work. Insurance companies will pay anyone, just highlight that its your baby you want it fixed right because you want to keep it forever. Rule #3 You are right and always fight for what you want. Document, Document, Document. Get your car fixed Chester! Relax a little and be glad it was just a little scratch/dent. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith W. 99 M3/2 TechnoViolet (Yes, She wanted this color) 97 Z3 Turquoise (Yes, I wanted this color) 97 F650 Black (We couldn't decide so we took it) ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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#9. tap rear seat bolts ? - from George M. Kofman
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:47:36 -0500 From: "George M. Kofman" <sdg2@execpc.com> Subject: tap rear seat bolts ? Folks; this weekend, while installing Schroth Rallye-3 harnesses in my E36 M3/4, I have inadvertainly crossthreaded on the bolts holding down the driver's seat. The odd thing is that it is not in the very beginning. I can turn the bolt by hand 5 turns, and only then does it seem to get stock. So, has anyone "tapped" such an animal before ? if so, what do I need to do and what are the tools / sizes required ? When replying to the digest, P L E A S E CC:sdg2@execpc.com GMK '97 M3 sedan, with harnesses, but only two front nuts and one rear bolt holding up the driver's seat :-( BTW - the harnesses work really well, but not even close to 5/6 point belts in Formula Dodge cars @ Skip Barber.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Airbag warning light - from Paul Agustin
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:58:30 -0500 From: Paul Agustin <agustin@iaxs.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Airbag warning light The other night as I was slowing down over a rather bumpy section of road, my airbag light also came on. It has remained on for the last few days. I had a passenger in the car at the time, maybe there is a connection located somewhere in the passenger seat vicinity that has come loose. Let me know what you find out. Paul Agustin

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