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#1. Re: sunroof switch - from SpeedU4EA@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:20:16 EDT From: SpeedU4EA@aol.com Subject: Re: sunroof switch Hello, Bmw did think of having the sunroof switch hooked to the door lock window roll up deal. Thats how m 98 M3 works (hold key and windows and sunroof close) Time to sell that horrible OBDI for a nice OBDII car :). Or maybe someone can figure out what parts on the 98 M3 make that work? Or a way to roll the windows down would be cool. Roy 98 M3 soon to get the Mach 5 hydrualic kit so I can saftly jump curbs
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#2. sunroof switch - from DOWZX@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:30:42 EDT From: DOWZX@aol.com Subject: sunroof switch "Bmw did think of having the sunroof switch hooked to the door lock window roll up deal. Thats how m 98 M3 works (hold key and windows and sunroof close)" My 97 M3 has a build date of 11/96 and it has that feature Dino 97 M3
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#3. Brake pad summary - from Jay Sala
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:51:31 +0800 From: Jay Sala <jsala@mist.com> Subject: Brake pad summary Given that the brake pad thread has surfaced again, I thought I'd repost the brake pad summary that I put together in early '99. If you guys are sick of seeing this, just let me know through private email. This was compiled from previous digests and my personal experience -- take it as another data point in making your own decision on what is best for you, your car, driving needs, skill, budget, etc. Note that the prices are for the E36 325i/328i. E36 M3 pads tend to be more expensive. Also, as has been discussed, there is no brake pad that can possibly combine ideal performance for both street and track. Some pads are better than others, but all pads are compromises in terms of dust, noise, performance when cold, performance at track conditions, etc. However, they trade-off street and track performance in different ways, giving you the chance to find what's best for you. STREET ONLY: PBR/Repco/Axis Deluxe - Nice pad for non-aggressive street driving that has been highly recommended on the digest for that use. Keeps your wheels clean. May squeel/click a bit as they don't fit as well as stock. Completely unsuited for the track, where they are said to vaporize under extreme use. A good pad if you decide to buy a set of track-only pads as well and are willing to swap pads before and after events. Sources: Bavarian Autosport Turner Motorsport (978) 388-7769 www.turnermotorsport.com About $35 per axle PBR/Repco/Axis MetalMasters - Good for high performance street driving, though they may need to warm up a bit. Use on the track is another matter. Some think they're OK, some feel very strongly that they shouldn't be used at the track as they are not significantly better than the Deluxes. There may be better choices. I'd rather not take chances. Source: Turner Motorsport (978) 388-7769 www.turnermotorsport.com Front set: $33.95 (part no. D 3215) Rear set: $33.95 (part no. D 3073) MAY BE USED ON THE STREET AND TRACK (listed roughly from less to more suited for track use) Stock pads - A good all-around choice. Fine on the street, and work decently well on the track, though they can be overheated by a strong intermediate or advanced driver. Once overheated, they can warp the rotors through prolonged attempts to get some braking. Ask me how I know. Sources: Bavarian Autosport Steve D'Gerolamo @ The Ultimate Garage (201) 262-0412 Pagid - These are German sport pads for street use. Very nicely made, fit exactly. They are as dusty as stock pads. Have anti-squeal plate bonded on the back and are completely suitable for street, but also work better than stock on the track. About the same price as stock pads. A good choice for a novice at the track. Source: Steve D'Gerolamo @ The Ultimate Garage (201) 262-0412 Front set: $45 (approximate price) Rear set: $45 (approximate price) Note: Pagid was supposed to come out with a new street/track compound in mid 1999 that was more aggressive. Pagid also has race compounds, though I don't have information on them. Performance Friction Z-rated - a good street/track brake pad. Uses a carbon-metallic compound. Better stopping power and less dust than stock. Quiet - don't rattle. Not as good as the Porterfield R4S when cold (metallic pads have to warm up a bit; carbon-kevlar pads have a wider operating range and are effective even when cold). Sources: Porterfield (see below) Front set: $ ?? Rear set: $107 -or- HMS Motorsport (888) 467-3269 http://www.hms-motorsport.com/ Porterfield R4-S - a carbon kevlar street/track compound with built-in ceramic insulator. Impressive bite, power, and heat resistance. Work fine cold. (I had these on my car and they did not squeel any more than stock pads.) Note that you have to monitor wear towards the end of the pad life since some of the apparent friction material thickness is actually the ceramic lining. Source: Porterfield (949) 548-4470 (ask for Jackie) Front set: $99 (part number AP558) Rear set: $79 (part number AP396) Carbotech Panther - an increasingly popular pad. Seems to work well in autocross and on the track -- good braking, resistance to fade, not hard on rotors. Are also quiet and work well for street use. There are mixed opinions on life span -- one digester used up a set in a day at Moroso in his E36 M3, though his friend in an E30 M3 did not experience excessive wear. It is a popular pad on the 318ti list. Source: Carbotech TRACK PADS (not suitable for street use, though some people do use them) Turner Motorsport Racing Pads (formerly Cool Carbon, now sold only by TMS under their own name). Very popular track pad for those on the BMW digest. While not as long lasting as PF90s or Hawk Blues, they are very kind to the rotors and won't toss hot metal particles onto the wheel and body paint. Less expensive, too. Not suitable for street use as they are noisy and dusty, and may not stop your car well when they are cold. Source: Turner Motorsport (978) 388-7769 www.turnermotorsport.com Front set: $138.95 (part no. TMS 558) Rear set: $ 99.95 (part no. TMS 396) Porterfield R4 (more aggressive than the street/track R4-S above) - Carbon kevlar pad material - Great braking power, fade resistant, easy to modulate. Give similar bite to stock pads even when cold, but they can squeel noisily under light application. I drove this on the street as well as the track, and thought they did better cold than stock pads, though not as good as the R4-S. Source: Porterfield (see above) Performance Friction 90 - One of several compounds they have available. A very popular racing pad used in IMSA, GT-2 and GT-3 racing. Great braking power and fade resistance, but may not be appropriate for daily street use. Long lasting. Sources: Porterfield (see above) Front set: $195.30 Rear set: $192.50 - or- HMS Motorsport (see above) Hawk Blues - Strong braking, heat resistant, noisy and dusty. Opinions are mixed -- some swear by them, others say they have a reputation for being hard on rotors and, when very hot, giving off hot metallic particles that can stick to your wheels and paint. As is typical with race pads, they need to be warmed up before you try for maximum braking. Sources: TCKline Racing/ProParts 614-771-7744 or 818-888-8904 - or - Porterfield (see above) <end of summary> Jay Sala BMW CCA, Golden Gate Chapter
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 sunroof switch - from Rob Hatrak
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:55:44 -0700 From: "Rob Hatrak" <Hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 sunroof switch According to my dealer, BMW added this feature as of 10/95. My M3 has a build date of 9/95 and does not have it. My friend's 10/95 does. Just my luck! Rob > : > Me too, but even more than that, I would like to be able to hook up > : the > : > sunroof to the double-locking feature so it would close like the > : windows do > : > when you lock the door. > : > : > Anybody know how to do that? And why didn't BMW think of it?!
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Red Line Oil...it does an engine good! =) - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Red Line Oil...it does an engine good! =) Did the LTW come with an oil cooler? Also, different engine (3.0 vs 3.2)? I dunno. Well, maybe different parts for the gauges (you have an aftermarket gauge kit, right?). I had the old M5 or M Coupe oil temp sender correctly matched (by reading the ohm ranges and stuff) to a VDO gauge. However, I'm not sure if the absolute value matters, but rather, the "delta" from one oil weight to another. At least, IMO. Chester --- "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> wrote: > Re: > > > Under stop and go traffic with [Mobil 1 ] 15W50 in the summer, my oil > >temp would sometimes rise to 230 - 240F. With the recent BMW factory fill, > I > >couldn't break 220F! > Interesting ... My LWT will not break 200F under any circumstances short of > track use, and I only run Mobil 1 15W-50 here in CA. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#6. Fw: [satla] Fwd: FW: The great state of Texas - from Collin Porterfield
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:59:48 -0500 From: "Collin Porterfield" <cporterfield@home.com> Subject: Fw: [satla] Fwd: FW: The great state of Texas ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:04 PM Subject: [satla] Fwd: FW: The great state of Texas > I'm not sure if all these stats are accurate, but I know most of them are. For those of you who > are not sure about the Shrub, here's another tidbit of info: > > Mike > ------Begin forward message------------------------- > > The great state of Texas (Courtesy of Lynn Ahrens) > The State of Texas, under the leadership of Governor George W. Bush, > is ranked: > 50th in spending for teachers' salaries > 49th in spending on the environment > 48th in per-capita funding for public health > 47th in delivery of social services > 42nd in child-support collections > 41st in per-capita spending on public education > and ... > 5th in percentage of population living in poverty > 1st in air and water pollution > 1st in percentage of poor working parents without insurance > 1st in percentage of children without health insurance > 1st in executions (avg. 1 every 2 weeks for Bush's 5 years) > > Just think of what he could do for the country if he > were president. > > Please forward this to every person of voting age. > > ------End forward message--------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wish you had something rad to add to your email? > We do at www.supersig.com. > http://click.egroups.com/1/6819/10/_/490178/_/963421495/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] 540i feedback wanted - from Chris Casey
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 540i feedback wanted Steve, I had the opportunity to drive a friend's 540i 6spd this past weekend. The stick itself is no problem, although the clutch is a little different (it has more of a "step" between engaged and disengaged as opposed to the smooth transition in my 99 M3). I don't know that I would want to drive it in commute traffic, but it wouldn't kill me. You could also just start in 2nd gear all the time (maybe even 3rd) - made possible by the huge torque the engine provides. On the highway, I found myself just shifting from 3rd (at around 75 mph) straight into 6th, and regularly looked down and found myself going 80-90+. The car is ---really--- smooth. Personally, I have my sporty-quick-stick car in my M3. I'd probably buy an automatic for around the town stuff. -Chris > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:40:18 -0700 > From: Steve Sharp <steve.sharp@xilinx.com> > Subject: 540i feedback wanted > > OK, there is some M3 content in here. > > I'm looking at a 540i (auto or 6-speed) to > suppliment the M3 as a family > car. It would be my around-town car and family > errand/travel car. It > wouldn't have to autocross or track (same that for > the M3). > > Does anyone out there have feedback on the merits of > the auto > (steptronic) versus the 6-speed. Is the manual too > much work around > town? (it should would be fun when doing solo > errands!). > > Steve > '97 M3/2 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Red Line Oil...it does an engine good! =) - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:57:32 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Red Line Oil...it does an engine good! =) Chester asks: >Did the LTW come with an oil cooler? Nope. My (euro) oil cooler that I bought long after the fact is still in the box -- so far, there's no need to use it. My car won't break 220F on-track even in 105 degree heat. I did see it reach 235F or so at very high altitude and low speeds -- that was a surprise. My LWT is bone-stock, without any performance upgrades at all. On the other hand, my long-suffering Porsche 914/4 2.0 would easily hit 280F and more on-track running Mobil 1 15W-50. Yikes! >Also, different engine (3.0 vs 3.2)? Just a 3.0. I'm beginning to believe that there may be some truth to the notion that LTW motors are "a select grade" compared to other US 3.0 M3 motors. >Well, maybe different parts for the gauges (you have an aftermarket >gauge kit, right?). The gauges are correct, and the readings match a Fluke DMM temp probe. >However, I'm not >sure if the absolute value matters, but rather, the "delta" from one oil >weight >to another. At least, IMO. Well, absolute is certainly best, but your point about deltas is a valid one. For whatever reason, there does seem to be quite a bit of oil temp variation among M3s. ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #334 - from Chris Casey
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #334 Lee, My 99 M3 does this...you hold the key in the "lock" position, the windows roll up, and then (after the windows are closed), the sunroof closes. -Chris > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:28:57 EDT > From: LHassig@aol.com > Subject: Re: E46 sunroof switch > > S Lafredo wrote: > > << I don't know about everyone else but I would love > to add an auto > open/close switch to my E36M3. >> > > Me too, but even more than that, I would like to be > able to hook up the > sunroof to the double-locking feature so it would > close like the windows do > when you lock the door. > > Anybody know how to do that? And why didn't BMW > think of it?! > > Cheers, Lee > '95 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#10. Top Ten Reasons Why There is Graphite in BMW Pads - from Skip Bogard
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:09:09 -0400 From: Skip Bogard <skip.bogard@alumni.duke.edu> Subject: Top Ten Reasons Why There is Graphite in BMW Pads Short Answer: You can read about graphite in some euro pads here http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn10=US04663060 ...a patent by Dow Corning, GmBH, Munich, Germany Long Answer: Top Ten Reasons Why There is Graphite in BMW Pads 1. The solid lubricant in combination with other elements is especially suitable as an additive to friction linings and results in an improvement in their tribological properties (friction and wear) according to Dow Corning, GmBH 2. It works better than ground walnut shells, carbon black, leather flour (ground up leather), cork flour, and a host of other materials that have been tried. 3. Graphite is a FRICTION MATERIAL ** 4. Graphite is also a SOLID FILLER material ** 5. Graphite is also (and very importantly) a LUBRICANT that helps keep lining material from transfering from pad to rotor metal surfaces 6. Graphite works with both asbestos and non-asbestos pads (hence it's not necessarily a replacement for asbestos) 7. It works better than LUBOLID (a Dow competitor) according to Dow Corning. 8. Because it was patented as part of a combination formula by Dow Corning, GmBH in Munich, Germany...read the patent (and other related) here: http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn10=US04663060 9. Ruediger Holinski, patent inventor, had a hot daughter who satiated the entire TUV staff 10. Helga Holinski, wife of Ruediger, invented the German candy "Gummy Bear" while cleaning her dentures, and then satiated the TUV staff. That is, Helga and daughter gave the entire staff gummy bears while Ruediger watched. - Skip ** what is left? I haven't mentioned "binders" ..that is, graphite is not a binder, you need something else... Oh, the original post with a few tongue-in-cheek comments: > >No....They > >use pads made by Textar or Jurid, and these pads make black dust for one > >simple reason: European pads are mandated to contain Graphite, which is > >why > >your high class expensive wheels look like pencil lead after 5 miles! > > mandated to contain graphite? is this some sort of european subsity of the > graphite miners or something? do they actually have to contain graphite? > or just NOT contain some other chemical, and graphite is the only other > choice these days? As mentioned above, it probably works better than leather/cork flour, or pulverized walnut shells > > if they MUST contain graphite, does anyone know why? For a better answer to "MUST???", your are either going to have to ask someone at TUV, a Euro standards committee, or track down Ruediger and/or Helga.
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#11. RE: [E36M3] Re: Tragic Autocross accident-Eye Witness Story - from Rob Birkhead
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:26 -0700 From: Rob Birkhead <rbirkz@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Tragic Autocross accident-Eye Witness Story This showed up on one of my lists explaining what happened: Got this off the Atlanta Region SCCA Solo II mailing list: Paul Barros wrote: > Ok gang, let me give a little background info on this clip. This accident > happened last year during our annual Corvette Caravan to the Corvette Museum > in Bowling Green Kentucky. An autocross course was setup on a small section > of parking lot at the Corvette assembly plant by a few of the local Corvette > clubs. This was a Saturday and Sunday event. And I had every intentions of > running both days since they said we would probably be able to get 6 or more > runs in each day. I actually ran the course on Saturday. This accident > happened on Sunday. > > After walking the course I could clearly tell that the course they set up > was to large for the lot space and set too close to the curbs. It was easy > to see that a novice could get into trouble rather easily. I made two runs > on the course and decided that I wanted no part of this particular > autocross. There were three main reasons. One, was that a few of the course > workers were sitting down at their stations! The second was that the > sweeping turn before the slalom had a patch of oil that couldn't be avoided > the way they had the course set up. No amount of kitty litter (or whatever > it is they used) seem to clean it up. Every time I came through that turn I > would get squirrelly going into the slalom and have to slow down to keep > from losing control (oil on my tires?). The third was that the slalom was > setup parallel to the curb and maybe a car length and a half away from the > curb. The blue vette in the clip lost control midway through this slalom > section, jumped the curb and hit the worker who, according to spectators I > had asked that witnessed it first hand, had been sitting in his folding > chair and was trying to get up and out of the way when he got hit. > > Anyway, I decided to go and a least watch the Sunday autocross before I left > to come home and I must have arrived at the site maybe a minute or two after > the incident and a few minutes before the paramedics arrived. The worker was > unconscious but still breathing. From the video it looks as though he was > already standing but I think if you look closely you will see what I think > is a red folding chair go flying in the air. Still no real sure if he was > actually sitting, I can only go by what I was told by a few people at the > site. > > Now let me tell you a little about Corvette events. Just as we have SCCA the > Corvette clubs have NCCC. This event was NOT an NCCC sanctioned event. > However it was setup by clubs that normally do run NCCC events. Just like we > setup an autocross for the Year One group at Commerce recently. Even though > it was not SCCA sanctioned we still stuck to our rules and safety methods. > So what I'm trying to say is that workers sitting down at their stations > seems to be the norm at NCCC events. Why is this? Well, NCCC events do not > have a run/work order. Drivers who enter these events are under no > obligation to work! This is handled by volunteers of the hosting Club. So > these volunteers are asked to work a station for hours on end with little if > any relief. I'll have to admit, I'd be tempted to take a chair and umbrella > myself! However, being a little wiser now I wouldn't dare be a volunteer. > > Paul Barros > 96 Silver Corvette #7 OSP Rob B. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin D. McLeaster [mailto:kmcleaster@iquest.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Tragic Autocross accident Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:12:35 -0000 From: Kevin D. McLeaster <kmcleaster@iquest.net> Subject: Re: Tragic Autocross accident Autocrossing incidents are rare, but indeed one does have to be careful. If the course looks dangerous after walking it and the event steward won't address your concerns, withdraw from the event. I only have been to one autox this year, and it was in my old MR-2 Turbo. I was waiting for my heat, and a VERY experienced competitor put his '95 M3 LTW on its roof with a first-timer riding shotgun. Noone was hurt but the car. I'm doing my first autox in my M3 this Sunday at the same site. I don't think I'll be going for FTD. For a real autox tragedy, check out his URL my NSX buddy sent me: http://realtv1.com/movies/raw_0004.mov Kevin D. McLeaster WB9HMI '95 M3, Arctic Silver ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************