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#1. Brake problems on the track - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:30:03 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: Brake problems on the track For those of you driving high mileage E36 M3s on the track, or if you are doing a lot of driving schools each year, you really should rebuild the seals in your front brake calipers. Doing this may cure the feel of the car pulling to one side under heavy braking. As the seals dry out from heat and age, the caliper pistons move at different rates. This allows one caliper to operate more efficiently than the other which causes the pulling effect. Rebuilding the caliper seals is fairly simple. Suzy's web site has the tech procedure: http://www.bmwmpower.com/TechProc/caliper.htm Bob Stommel 97 M3 street car 88 M3 race car
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#2. thinking of selling my M3. how much to ask ? - from George M. Kofman
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:42:16 -0500 From: "George M. Kofman" <sdg2@execpc.com> Subject: thinking of selling my M3. how much to ask ? Well, with all this talk on "other" digests about Doodies and smoking AWDs, I waz thinking of parting with my 97 M3/4. Someone test drove it yesterday, and is going to gimme an offer for it shortly. So, my question is what should I take for it? I don't want a highly optimistic number just 'cause it's a BMW M3... a REAL-WORLD number from someone in the Biz or someone who recently bought one..... here it goes: '97 M3/4 Black/Black, 5 sp, ODC, SR, curise, HK/CD hifi, Arm rest, heated seats; motorsport lower cross-brace; 47Kmi ; still under warranty. comes with the car: new yoko avs sports on all 4 corners, new rear rotors, new pads all around. "optional:" (4) ATP 7.5x17" type 5 (lux lookalike) with Yoko A032R's, (4) PF90's, (4) W210 snows, and just installed (2) brand-mew Schroth Rallye-3 harnesses. Please email sdg2@execpc.com to save bandwidth and flames :-)
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#3. Track brake pads - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:51:14 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: Track brake pads Some more info on track pads: >Turner Motorsport Racing Pads (formerly Cool Carbon, now sold only by TMS >under their own name). Very popular track pad for those on the BMW >digest. While not as long lasting as PF90s or Hawk Blues, they are very >kind to the rotors and won't toss hot metal particles onto the wheel and >body paint. Less expensive, too. Not suitable for street use as they are >noisy and dusty, and may not stop your car well when they are cold. FWIW, PF90s do NOT toss hot metal particles onto the wheel and body paint. Only the Hawk Blues do that. Also, the PF90s are much gentler on rotors than are the Hawks. >Performance Friction 90 - One of several compounds they have available. A >very popular racing pad used in IMSA, GT-2 and GT-3 racing. Great braking >power and fade resistance, but may not be appropriate for daily street >use. Long lasting. > > Sources: Porterfield (see above) > > Front set: $195.30 > Rear set: $192.50 These are the list prices. If you tell Porterfield that you are on the E36 M3 list, they will give you a 20% discount on all M3 pads. (This applies to E30 M3 pads as well.) If the person who answers the phone doesn't know what you are talking about, ask for Jackie. Porterfield's number is (800) 537-6842. This special discount was put together last year and continues to run for the rest of 2000. Bob Stommel 97 M3 street 88 M3 race
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#4. Graphite - from Darling Christopher AMC/CEOP
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:00:16 -0500 From: Darling Christopher AMC/CEOP <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> Subject: Graphite <snip> 10. Helga Holinski, wife of Ruediger, invented the German candy "Gummy Bear" while cleaning her dentures, and then satiated the TUV staff. That is, Helga and daughter gave the entire staff gummy bears while Ruediger watched. - Skip ** what is left? I haven't mentioned "binders" ..that is, graphite is not a binder, you need something else... <snip> "BIND-'ER? I don't even know 'er!" snork. _______________________________end Cod Capt Chris Darling HQ AMC/CEOP DSN 576-5930, Comm (618)256-5930
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Fw: [satla] Fwd: FW: The great state of Texas - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:09:54 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fw: [satla] Fwd: FW: The great state of Texas Why is this crap being put on the list? >> I'm not sure if all these stats are accurate, but I know most of them are. >For those of you who >> are not sure about the Shrub, here's another tidbit of info: >> >> Mike >> ------Begin forward message------------------------- >> >> The great state of Texas (Courtesy of Lynn Ahrens) >> The State of Texas, under the leadership of Governor George W. Bush, >> is ranked: >> 50th in spending for teachers' salaries >> 49th in spending on the environment >> 48th in per-capita funding for public health >> 47th in delivery of social services >> 42nd in child-support collections >> 41st in per-capita spending on public education >> and ... >> 5th in percentage of population living in poverty >> 1st in air and water pollution >> 1st in percentage of poor working parents without insurance >> 1st in percentage of children without health insurance >> 1st in executions (avg. 1 every 2 weeks for Bush's 5 years) >> >> Just think of what he could do for the country if he >> were president. >> >> Please forward this to every person of voting age. ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com
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#6. UUC cartridge bearings (was Delrin AF the M-Z3 shift lever bushing) - from Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:20:49 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: UUC cartridge bearings (was Delrin AF the M-Z3 shift lever bushing) Not "some" companies. UUC Motorwerks.is the only company to incorporate cartridge bearings. Our conclusive tests have shown that our cartridge bearing system is smoother than any conventional BMW lower pivot assembly available, regardless of lubrication. It's important to understand the way the lower pivot design of the BMW shift lever actually works. The assembly of the selector rod and shift lever via the selector rod pin that goes through the lever pivot is held together by a special kind of C-clip. It's not just any C-clip, but a type that works like a spring or lock washer. It has two large tabs that press against the lower pivot, effectively pulling the pieces tight together. THIS is what is responsible for the majority of friction in the pivot, the compression of all those parts. The UUC Motorwerks cartridge bearing assembly works in an entirely different way. The assembly is a sandwich consisting of a machined spacer that looks like a washer with an additional raised lip around the hole (equivalent to the thickness and diameter of the inner race of the bearings), a bearing, a spacer tube (equivalent to the diameter of the outer race of the bearings), another bearing, and then another machined spacer like the first. The selector rod pin is inserted through this assembly just like the stock thermoplastic bushing, and the special C-clip holds it all together. This is the vital concept that is the key to the friction-eliminating success of the cartridge bearing assembly: the compression (that is responsible for the friction of the stock assembly) is transmitted only through that machined spacer which only contacts the inner race of the bearings (via that raised lip), and then through the bearings, into the other spacer (via its raised lip), and then the selector rod. What this means is that the shift lever itself is completely free of any compression. The C-clip never touches it directly, so it is able to rotate freely, as friction-free as cartridge bearings can let it. We have demonstrated this at various UUCFests, ShifterFests, and CCA meetings by using a selector rod with a stock BMW shifter at one end and UUC "Evo" series cartridge bearing shifter at the other (the selector rod has the exact same pin at each end). The stock shift lever, a well-used and broken-in lever with plenty of lubrication, is still stiff. You can hold the selector rod and the lever will stay wherever you put it due to the friction. On the other end, the UUC "Evo" shifter swings freely just as one would expect of a friction-free assembly. For more information and pictures of these parts, see: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_product/bmw_shifters/html_bmw_shifters/new_developments. htm - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks www.uucmotorwerks.com > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:12:48 EDT > From: RonStygar@aol.com > Subject: Lets Delrin AF the M-Z3 shift lever bushing > > Someone asked me to Delrin AF bushing a crimped, bent > M-Z3 shift lever for his M3. I also did the shortened from above M-Z3 shift > lever in my M coupe. Delrin AF, chocolate brown in color, is impregnated > with 20% Teflon fibers. No lubrication required (slippery)(advantage). The > bushing is hand reamed to exactly the right size. > I've been told that there is little friction in a pivot joint, so doing > this is a waste of time. Whatever the friction is, it is one-third less at > the shift knob (ratio of the shift lever). > Some use ball bearings. I always looked at ball bearings for use in things > that go round and round, like bicycle stuff. The rotation of the M-Z3 shift > lever bushing in an M3 is approximately 16 degrees on a third to fourth > shift. As above, ball bearings may be a waste of time too.
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#7. WTB LTW wheels - from Robert_Manger@mastercard.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:25:12 -0400 From: Robert_Manger@mastercard.com Subject: WTB LTW wheels Fellow M-aficionados, I know that this is kind of a long shot, but what the hell. I am looking to purchase a set of the polished split 5 spoke wheels preferably 8.5 width for all 4, but I will take what I can get. Thanks, Rob
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#8. Redline Oil Source - from RFKoby@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:49:24 EDT From: RFKoby@aol.com Subject: Redline Oil Source folks, try calling Redline Oil direct. They are in California. If you buy by the case quantities, they will give you "fleet pricing". This basically pays for the shipping. also look at their website, think it is www.redlineoil.com ??? bob
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Brake Pads x Brake Dust - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:42:17 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Pads x Brake Dust >Sean, > >You said that your new M3 was going to remain STOCK. Remember? ;-) > >-rb well... um... {nervously fidgiting} you see... it's already got a different stereo, and a radar detector, and an alarm. and soon a jim c chip. but i can rationalize those as "electronics" which aren't as "intrusive" to the car. ;-P my attempts to get an auto-closing sunroof are stretching the "electronics" rationalization, but i'm still gonna cling to that. brakes would just about destroy me though, huh? but... in general... if i can get a part that's better in every way, with no downsides, i'll think hard about installing it. 99.99% of aftermarket parts for an M3 are compromises. you sacrafice one thing for another. every performace part on my last car had SOME downside. (except maybe the chip) every one. i don't wanna go down that road again. right now you sacrifice brake performance for brake dust. so i'm not doing it. BUT. if someone invents a brake pad that is as good performing, but makes no dust, i'll proabbly buy it. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Track brake pads - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:06:37 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track brake pads >Some more info on track pads: > > >Turner Motorsport Racing Pads (formerly Cool Carbon, now sold only by TMS > >under their own name). Very popular track pad for those on the BMW > >digest. While not as long lasting as PF90s or Hawk Blues, they are very > >kind to the rotors and won't toss hot metal particles onto the wheel and > >body paint. Less expensive, too. Not suitable for street use as they >are > >noisy and dusty, and may not stop your car well when they are cold. > >FWIW, PF90s do NOT toss hot metal particles onto the wheel and body >paint. Only the Hawk Blues do that. Also, the PF90s are much gentler on >rotors than are the Hawks. this is my experience as well. pf90s (while expensive) are the best. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com