E36M3 #382

Thursday, July 27, 2000 13:44:38

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Front suspension (driver's side) rattle - from John Payne
#2. Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? - from nabli@attglobal.net
#3. Anyone installed 255/25/18? - from Junaidi Irwan
#4. Re: [E36M3] Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? - from Daniel Smith
#5. Re: Detecting the limit (looking for a school) - from Eric.C.Dotson@travelers.com
#6. ugh sorry to spam everyone... - from Kit Wetzler
#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Detecting the limit (looking for a school) - from Daniel Smith
#8. Thunderhill Driving School - from Jeffrey Stowe
#9. X-Tended Warr - from WCRoswell@aol.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] Thunderhill Driving School - from Huntley Parker

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Front suspension (driver's side) rattle - from John Payne
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:02:03 -0600 From: "John Payne" <jpayne@peakss.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front suspension (driver's side) rattle Might want to check the brake pads. Sometimes the retaining spring will bust off and cause a rattle. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Turrisi [mailto:cturrisi@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:44 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front suspension (driver's side) rattle > > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:28:24 -0400 > From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front suspension (driver's side) rattle > > Ed, > > It could be the three chamber plate bolts are not tight or the shock > shaft retaining nut. > It is probably a loose shock retaining nut. This is the nut that > attaches > the top of the shock to the chamber plate and holds the spring in > compression. One way to test this is to jack the car up, place a > crow bar under the tire and leverage it against a piece of wood so that > when you put downward pressure on the crow bar it pushes the wheel > upward. It will take your full body weight to move the assembly, > and if the > nut is loose then it will make a clunking noise at the top of the > shock tower. > > I had the same noise when I replaced my front shocks and forgot to tighten > the nut fully. An impact gun make this much easier...just don't over > tighten it. > > Hope this helps, > > Chris T. > 97 M3 > > > At 08:34 PM 7/26/00 -0500, Ed Tang wrote: > >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:24:13 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> > >Subject: Front suspension (driver's side) rattle > > > >Hi all, > > > >I have to bring the car in for a rattle in the front > >suspension. Sounds like it comes from the tower. The > >sound happens when I accelerate or brake as the weight > >transfer shifts through the car. It is louder over the > >bumps. I've checked the wheel for play in the bearings > >but it's tight as a drum. When I rock the car, the > >sound emanates close to the shock tower. Could it be > >the bump stops or the strut housing? I want to hear it > >from the group before I get a response from the > >service dept. TIA. > > > >Ed Tang > >95 Cosmos M3 > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > >************************************************************* > >List Commands > >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > >************************************************************* > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* >

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#2. Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:05:33 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? Lew, Basically no blind spots because the mirror sets everything back. Part #s: 51 16 2 267 191 driver 51 16 2 267 224 passenger without writing. Retail for around $100 each but can mail order them at discounts of course. This is an OEM part and therefore accommodates the heating feature of our mirrors. It's the only way they come. Installation is a "snap" - literally. I adjusted the mirror so I could get a couple of fingers behind a corner of the mirror and it snapped out. Instal is reverse once you line up the mirror tabs. Time? All of 3 minutes. Cheers, Jim E. Lew Becker wrote: > No blind spot? Factory Part? I'm interested. How about some details -- > part no; replacement procedure and degree of difficulty; downsides, if any > (e.g. loss of heating function -- I presume not, unlike aftermarket mirror > glass); etc. Thanks, Jim. > > Lew Becker > > ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:31:14 -0400 > > From: nabli@attglobal.net > > Subject: Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? > > > > I was until about a month ago when I replaced the glass with the Euro M3 > > glass. > > > > I never particularly like the standard driver M3 mirror because of the > > limited sight it provides. The Europeans of course would not tolerate > > such a useless (or limited use) angle. They ended up using the same > > mirror that we get on the passenger side for both sides - without the > > writing. :-) I guess Europeans are a bit more perceptive and don't > > need the "writing on the wall" so to speak. They are also not as > > litigious as the U.S. counterparts. I can picture some "ho jo" on the > > stand testifying in his bazzillion dollar lawsuit that BMW was clearly > > negligent when they omitted the warning. :-) > > > > Ok, back to the point. After driving my friends M3 this past weekend > > with the factory U.S. glass, I can't believe how I managed with the same > > mirror on my car. > > > > It took me a couple of days to get used to it and now seems perfectly > > normal. I can see over two lanes to my left and don't have to deal with > > any blind spots. > > > > This mirror may not be for everyone but I think it was definitely worth > > it for me. > > > > Oh I forgot to mention an added benefit. It appears to make my car go > > faster because, unlike before, everyone is so far behind me now. :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Jim E.

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#3. Anyone installed 255/25/18? - from Junaidi Irwan
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Date: 27 Jul 00 12:30:30 CDT From: Junaidi Irwan <junaidi.irwan@usa.net> Subject: Anyone installed 255/25/18? Has anyone installed 255/35/18 tires on your car? I planned to put two 255/35/18 on the rear (I had my rear fender rolled already). Just curious as to how many people have done it. Junaidi 95 ///M3 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:31:21 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? At 12:04 PM -0500 7/27/00, nabli@attglobal.net wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:05:33 -0400 > From: nabli@attglobal.net > Subject: Tired of your stock driver's side mirror? > > Basically no blind spots because the mirror sets everything back. > I am curious as to how these compare with the MultiVex stick-on mirrors. These are available from http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/ The one downside to the stick-ons (they completely cover the stock mirror) is that you no longer have mirror defrosting available. That doesn't bother me. I've done several track events with the MultiVex's, and have had several instructors comment that they like the additional view. They're great for street use as well. They take a little getting used-to - there is a definite warping, as compared to stock mirrors. I highly recommend them. The stock mirrors don't give enough of a view for my taste. Anyone seen/tried both? Daniel (no narrow mirror view for me please :-) -- Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA

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#5. Re: Detecting the limit (looking for a school) - from Eric.C.Dotson@travelers.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:51:35 -0400 From: Eric.C.Dotson@travelers.com Subject: Re: Detecting the limit (looking for a school) Gruppe, Had the exact same situation at the Safety School at Sebring in January. I was helping out (I won't say instructing, that might be a stretch) with the students during the driving excercises, which were done on the Skip Barbour skidpads. I had to try REALLY hard to get the tail to step out, driving really hamfisted. Otherwise it would just understeer. Two student cars come to mind: A 2002, driven by an older woman, that could hang the tail out at will, and bring it back about as easily. The other was a E28 535i in which the owner had just installed a 3.90 gearset. Oversteer was just a toe-tap away. He also got pretty good about bringing the car back. Then there was a gorgeous M3 LTW with suspension mods. Stuck like glue, then snapped. I couldn't watch the car 100% of the time, but I don't recall ever seeing the driver catch it. Eric 95 M3 95 325i ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean Hester wrote: funny story. (going along my same thread of M3s are hard to learn in) i'd say about 80% of the people who do this drill in an M3, CAN'T make the car oversteer their first few times. we eventually tell them to romp on the gas, or something else "stupid" to get the car to get loose so they can at least feel one slide/spin.

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#6. ugh sorry to spam everyone... - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:03:46 -0700 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: ugh sorry to spam everyone... sorry to spam everyone with this. I got a set of Anthracite floor mats by accident. Rather than ship them back, I figured that I could offer them to anyone in the bay area, for $99... they're new, never been installed and include the hardware kit (anchors) I'm gonna eat the shipping either way and figured I might be able to help someone out. -Kit 97 M3/4

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Detecting the limit (looking for a school) - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:57:24 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Detecting the limit (looking for a school) At 4:34 AM -0500 7/27/00, Sean Hester wrote: > funny story. (going along my same thread of M3s are hard to learn in) i'd > say about 80% of the people who do this drill in an M3, CAN'T make the car > oversteer their first few times. Had this experience on an impromptu skid pad in a parking lot area at a Sears Point school recently... how did I solve it? Don't shift into 2nd - stay in 1st! Much easier to break traction that way :-) -- Daniel Smith * Sonoma County, CA * BMW CCA Golden Gate Chapter '87 E24 / '89 E30 / '97 E36 M's

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#8. Thunderhill Driving School - from Jeffrey Stowe
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:04:15 -0700 From: Jeffrey Stowe <jstowe@cisco.com> Subject: Thunderhill Driving School Have any of the Bay Area listers ever been to one of the Thunderhill sponsored High Performance Street Schools? Any comments or insights on these events would be appreciated. Is any one else attending this weekends school at Thunderhill? I am heading up in the wee hours Saturday morning if anyone would like to caravan. jeff

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#9. X-Tended Warr - from WCRoswell@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:20:12 EDT From: WCRoswell@aol.com Subject: X-Tended Warr In a message dated 07/26/2000 6:56:48 PM EST, e36m3@bmwmpower.com writes: << Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:24:44 -0400 From: lee.leslie@firstunion.com Subject: X-Tended Warr I spoke to a rep with Warrantydirect.com today & they quoted me $1,190 to extend my warranty for 4 more years or 75K total miles on the car.. and $1,530 for 100K.. Sounds like a great price w/ a zero deductible and very comprehensive.. does anyone have any experiences with these people? They say I can take the car anywhere I want & they will pay the vendor directly over the phone with their corporate credit card... Any advice? ps: this was for a 97 M3.. 30K >> Just remember they are in business to make money!. Extended warranty cost is based on an average cost they have to pay out and then some profit. At $1,530 you would have to have something pretty major go wrong, well maybe not major with BMW :) I think both warrantydirect and warrantygold are established and have been in business long enough to be solvent. All that said and done I usually buy extended warranties for peace of mind. Thanks, Bill the M Car Nut 98 M3/4 5-speed 01 M5 on order ( in fact I have two on order from two different dealers)

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Thunderhill Driving School - from Huntley Parker
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:44:45 -0700 From: "Huntley Parker" <hparker@gotsavings.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Thunderhill Driving School > From: Jeffrey Stowe <jstowe@cisco.com> > Subject: Thunderhill Driving School > Is any one else attending this weekends school at Thunderhill? > I am heading up in the wee hours Saturday morning if anyone would like to > caravan. I've been to many schools at Thunderhill, but not one of the street schools put on by Thunderhill. It's a wonderful track to learn on (if you've never been there). Plenty of runoff and a fun track to drive. I'll be up there on Sun. and Mon. with fellow listers Mark Dadgar, Jim Bassett, and Donna Seeley. You might be able to get into the Team Yahoo event on Sunday at the last minute if you want some more track time. We'll be at the Best Western Golden Pheasant Inn Saturday night. -Huntley ************** '97 M3/2 with an ever increasing list of stuff - getting new A032R's tomorrow!

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