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#1. Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 - from Matt Henson
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 Your problem is heat soak. Your dyno results aren't valid. You need to let the engine cool off between runs - at least 5 minutes, preferably 10-20. When I dynoed my Turbo car I let it sit 5 minutes between runs and still dropped 3HP per run. A better way is to spray down the intake plumbing/manifold with NOS between runs. That helps some. -Matt --- Suwipin Martono <martono@newton.me.berkeley.edu> wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Suwipin Martono > <martono@newton.me.berkeley.edu> > Subject: Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 > > Hi all, > > I posted some plots at www.bimmer.org of my five > dyno runs right after I > injected Jim C's Shark Injector on my 97 M3 Coupe. > Please comment on this > (especially Jim C). We might have done something > wrong during the dyno > session or we might not, but in any case, based on > these results I was > pretty disappointed. > > I used a different name (Christopher) on that board > because I'm not > really fond of flamers (w/ some nasty attitude) on > that board. > > Thanx, > pin > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#2. JimC Info - from NickG
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:01:23 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: JimC Info Hi All, I just wanted to inform everbody that JimC no longer subscribes to this mailing list (and most of the others too). Thus, don't expect him to respond to any posts made here regarding dyno results, OBD2, etc. Regards, Nick
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 - from NickG
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:16:13 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 > I posted some plots at www.bimmer.org of my five dyno runs right after I > injected Jim C's Shark Injector on my 97 M3 Coupe. Please comment on this > (especially Jim C). We might have done something wrong during the dyno > session or we might not, but in any case, based on these results I was > pretty disappointed. IMO, Matt H. hit the nail on the head. Your runs probably suffered from heat soak. But now, let's play devil's advocate........If I'm not mistaken, the place you had the dyno testing done at (DynoSpotRacing) is a Garrett (GIAC) dealer. Isn't it possible the dyno operator tainted the results in order to sell you one of their chips? To tell you the truth, this is the first time I've heard of somebody being dissappointed after being Sharked. Let us know what the outcome is with the results. Regards, Nick
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#4. WTB: 95 M3 front sway bar - from NickG
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:24:32 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: WTB: 95 M3 front sway bar I'm looking for a factory front sway bar from a 1995 M3. If you have one you want to part with, drop me an email with the price. Thanks, Nick
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 - from Suwipin Martono
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Suwipin Martono <martono@newton.me.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 Hi Nick, > IMO, Matt H. hit the nail on the head. Your runs probably suffered from heat > soak. Thanx Matt for your input. I guess we should have waited for 15 minutes between one dyno run to another in order to get some valid results. > But now, let's play devil's advocate........If I'm not mistaken, the place > you had the dyno testing done at (DynoSpotRacing) is a Garrett (GIAC) > dealer. Isn't it possible the dyno operator tainted the results in order to > sell you one of their chips? That might be true. But I don't want to accuse no one blindly. I talked to the owner of Dynospot racing (Dick). He told me that he knows Jim C, Will Turner, etc. I'm not sure if he tainted the results or not but the thing is I did not know that I need to wait for at least 15 minutes (??) between one dyno session to another. Dick didn't tell me that. But Dick did tell me that he hasn't found any good chips for OBD-II car and he is not selling GIAC chips to OBD-II M3s. Where did I found Dynospot? I read a post at bimmer.org on where to dyno our car in South Bay, CA. > To tell you the truth, this is the first time > I've heard of somebody being dissappointed after being Sharked. I would like to find out how much gain I would get with the Shark Injector. See, a lot of people say (including C&D magazine) that chips won't help but other people say that Shark Injector will give you x number of horsepower and stuffs based on their butt-dyno and from the dyno runs by Jim C. That is why I would like to dyno my car before and after the Shark Injector. I was disappointed because of the results that I got. But now I learned from some people in this mailing list that the dyno runs that we did were not valid. For me your inputs are well taken and if I do have more spare time and money, I'd love to do the dyno somewhere else and do it correctly (based on the guru's input, Jim C himself). > Let us know what the outcome is with the results. Sure, I'll let you know. But I don't think that I'll be spending my money on another dyno runs in the near future. Maybe later. Thanx & have a nice weekend, pin :)
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:13:05 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dyno runs of Shark Injected M3 In a message dated 8/12/00 1:08:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, martono@newton.me.berkeley.edu writes: << But Dick did tell me that he hasn't found any good chips for OBD-II car and he is not selling GIAC chips to OBD-II M3s. >> Talking to my BMW mechanic yesterday, as he was installing a Dinan intake on a e46 323ci, he said, there is very little gain in hp, but increased low end torque. So the car feels faster for OBD-II cars. I think this is a fairly accurate statement. Yes/No??? Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 1st AS - '97 2nd AS - '98 & '99 mov'in to ESP in '01
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#7. E36 Rear shock mounts - from Joe Huie
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 13:08:12 -0700 From: "Joe Huie" <jhuie@inreach.com> Subject: E36 Rear shock mounts My RSM are starting to show cracks. Could anyone provide some feedback about the JT-Designs and Ground Control RSMs (i.e., pros and cons, if any, between them)? There doesn't seem to be a big difference. As an alternative, has anyone used the E30 convertible RSM to replace the E36 RSM? I've heard that it's a good alternative at a lower price point, as the E30 RSM is especially strong. What about the E36 convertible RSM? Is that worth considering? Thanks. Joe 95 M3
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#8. McLaren F1 book for tech / car nuts - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 13:57:30 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: McLaren F1 book for tech / car nuts Hi All. I recently bought a book that was well received in AutoWeek -- "Driving Ambition, The offical story fo the McLaren F1". It's a really good book, and although I suspect many will find it quite technical, I wish it were even more in certain areas (right now I'm trying to find the GB patent that covers an interesting aspect of their front suspension design). What struck me while reading this book is how the car's genesis and the process of creating and building the car is somewhat similar to that of BMW's M1, albeit the McLaren team had a lot more money and technical know-how at their disposal. There also appeared to be a lot more of a sense of ownership in the project, which shows in the superb level of attention to detail in nearly all aspects of the car's design and production. Of course, the McLaren came 15 years later ... Anyway, I suppose I could go on, but I'll just say that it's definitely a good read. Available at Classic Motorbooks, 800-826-660, # 130806, $49.95 + $4.95 shipping. Obligatory E36M3 content -- the F1's engine uses a derivative of the E36 M3's single-vanos heads and valvetrain in its 6.1 liter V12. Other M3 comment -- page 162 purports to show a specially modified E30 (!) M3 at 170mph acting as "chase vehicle" on an F1 test run at the test track at Nardo, Italy. I know what I would / will be driving if / when my finances improve ... :-) ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear shock mounts - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:04:36 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear shock mounts Just had the JTD RSMs installed yesterday. The original RSMs were cracked, so my BMW dealer did the install under warranty. The mechanic took one look at the JTD parts and said "WOW", then proceeded to show them to all the guys before the installation. Man, with a lift, it's sooo easy. Using the blue "her" bushings. BTW, just a data point, but after only 21,000 road miles and 3+ years of autoxing, BMW stock mounts were destroyed. That's pitiful in my book. Well, we will see how much longer the JTD ones last...I think much longer by the looks of them. Good luck on your decision, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 1st AS - '97 2nd AS - '98 & '99 mov'in to ESP in '01
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#10. Re: [E36M3] More on AA exhuast, Shark Injecter and a curb jump - from Matt Henson
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] More on AA exhuast, Shark Injecter and a curb jump Andy, Yes, get it checked out. After our M3 was curbed at an AutoX it suffered bent rear control arm, cut CV joint boot and wheel bearing damage in addition to the wheels. We didn't figure out about the wheel bearing and cv boot until later - they weren't obvious at the time. At the very least you'll need to get it re-aligned. They can check it out at that time. Good Luck! and no, you can't sue Jim. Or at least you wouldn't win :-) -Matt --- Andy Korczynski <Andy@casskor.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:57:09 -0500 > From: Andy Korczynski <Andy@casskor.com> > Subject: More on AA exhuast, Shark Injecter and a > curb jump > > A while back I posted a message about my AA exhuast > making a rattling noise > (It's been on for about a year) and the general > consensus was that it was > either a loose hanger or some loose bolts that > connect the AA exhuast pipes > to the cat section. Well I finally, got my butt > under the car this morning > and one of the screw/bolt combos on that connects > the exhuast to the cat > section was loose. Coming back from almost a 2 week > vacation I was now > ready to go for a spirited drive in my now > non-rattling m3. I also got my > Shark Injector while I was gone and updated the car. > Last corner before my > house I decide to take a bit fast. Well I took it a > bit too fast (thanks > Jim) and the car flipped around. So can I sue Jim > C. for giving my car that > extra edge that caused this to happen? Anyways, I > hit the curb (maybe 3-4 > inches high) with my rear at probably a 30-40 degree > angle. The wheel is > obviously damaged, but no flat! Should I bring in > the car and get the rear > sway, shocks, shocks mounts, and axle checked out or > is there something I > can do myself? I drove the car around for a bit > afterwords and it felt > fine...So am I the only moron that has crashed his > car right after > installing the Jim C. software??? > > Andy K. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#11. FS: H&R Sport Springs for 96+ M3 - from Matt Henson
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: FS: H&R Sport Springs for 96+ M3 I'm selling a set of H&R sport springs. They are about 1 year olnd and in good condition. I'm selling because they are a little low for a turbo car driven in Austin (bad roads, low springs and low pipes are a bad mix). I haven't heard any complaints about H&R sports being too low for non-turbo cars, even in Austin. Anyway, the price is $150+ shipping or pick up. Or Best Offer. These can be used on a '95 with updated upper spring perches, available from your dealer for around $25. Thanks, Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/