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#1. Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:04:12 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors >Ahem.. hypothetically speaking :) >If a rookie was to take his M3 to Thunderhill after not grasping the >detailed braking dissertations provided on this list and then run his M3 in >multiple run groups (sharing car with other driver) for multiple days and >thusly ended up with warped rotors. . . . > >A) Is there any chance of pawning this off on the dealer as a warranty >fix? i've heard it's been done. i don't think it's really "fair" to try it, but... if you can get away with it go for it! >B) What is the approximate cost of the replacing the rotors with the Euro >rotors (or stock for that matter)? they are $108 each if you shop around. >C) How much braking efficiency is lost with the warped rotors? Would it be >safe to track the car again with the warped rotors? enough efficiency is lost that you need to change them before the track again. a good tech inspector won't let you drive with warped rotors. we've turned people away before for bad rotors. there's not a huge rush for street driving, a couple of weeks waiting for the UPS person won't kill you. (unless you are about to rear end someone and need all your brakes) but change them before the track again especially because of the answer to D. >D) Is street driving with the rotor shimmy doing any collateral damage ie >wheel bearing, calipers etc. . .? yes! calipers, steering rack, bearings, just about everything. don't "save" $200 on rotors and then pay $2000 in damage later. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Chester alert - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:05:54 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chester alert Its that black sticky goop they spray into pickup trucks for a bedliner. I think the guy has a problem ;) Jim Joe Dyer wrote: > Jim, > > What a hoot! Whatinell is Hurculiner? > > Joe Dyer > 95 BMW M3(obligatory M3 content!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@home.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:53 PM > Subject: [E36M3] Chester alert > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:46:16 -0700 > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > > Subject: Chester alert > > > > I was just notified by the esteemed Porridgehead of a remarkable site. > > Chester, I immediately thought of you. :) > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595&pagenumber > =1 > > > > Jim > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Brake Pads - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:33:40 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Brake Pads AJ, Not enough braking involved in autocrossing to really matter what linings you use. I switched from stock to R4S pads to get rid of the massive black brake dust from stock pads. R4S pads work just fine for street AND autocross. Joe Dyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsusd.lsuhsc.edu> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: [E36M3] Autocross Brake Pads > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:31:03 -0500 > From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsusd.lsuhsc.edu> > Subject: Autocross Brake Pads > > I know there has been a lot of discussion about brake pads for the track, > but for autocross does anyone have recommendations for a pad that is better > than stock for autocross. Bob Tunnell uses Hawk HP Plus so that's what I'm > leaning towards at the moment. Any opinions would be appreciated. > > AJDiVincenti > 95 M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear brake pad wear sensor broken - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:32:36 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear brake pad wear sensor broken i've crumbled them too. don't feel bad. they can't deal with track temperatures. one or two times at 1200 degrees and they're worthless... it's just a mechanical sensor. once it crumbled you saw a wire loop? the idea is that if the thing didn't crumble, and was in place on the pads, when they got too thin the sensor would rub on the rotor until the wire loop wore away. once the wire is broken the "idiot light" comes on. there's no "permanent record" on this. once you close the circuit (get a new one) the light goes out. apparently you didn't break the wire loop? if not then you're fine. just tie the thing out of the way. (except that the idiot light is not going to go on if your pads get too thin) if you want a new sensor they cost about $20. but that one'll break too at the track. i tie mine back out of the way for track events. you don't need it. in fact you don't need it on the street either if you keep track of your pad thikness yourself. i do put it back in place for the winter just in case... >From: vernon@sprynet.com >Reply-To: vernon@sprynet.com >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: [E36M3] Rear brake pad wear sensor broken >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:43:13 -0500 > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:38:39 -0400 >From: vernon@sprynet.com >Subject: Rear brake pad wear sensor broken > >OK, so I'm in the driveway tonight, installing PF90's for a weekend at the >track and I totally crumble the rear brake pad wear sensor. I swear I >hardly touched it and the damn thing just disintegrated. So, my question >is, how necessary is this thing? I started and drove the car for 5 miles >or so and no warning lights came on. I'd prefer to just forget about it >completely unless it will cause a problem or trip an error code somewhere >(my driving requires enough attention as is, all I need is a stupid >distraction like that). I'm sure many people have done this before (or am >I the only poor sucker?). Ideas? > >Vern Anderson >98 M3/2 >Trying to save precious ounces by ripping sensors off the car.... > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >************************************************************* > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#5. Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:36:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) ACK! I think it's a conspiracy....people must be feeding Powell links to tease me...yeah, that's it! No, I don't have a pickup truck. And, no...it wasn't herculiner...it was crazy glue and my eye! SHeesh! Chester --- Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> wrote: > Its that black sticky goop they spray into pickup trucks for a bedliner. I > think the guy has a problem ;) > > Jim > > Joe Dyer wrote: > > > Jim, > > > > What a hoot! Whatinell is Hurculiner? > > > > Joe Dyer > > 95 BMW M3(obligatory M3 content!) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@home.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:53 PM > > Subject: [E36M3] Chester alert > > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:46:16 -0700 > > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > > > Subject: Chester alert > > > > > > I was just notified by the esteemed Porridgehead of a remarkable site. > > > Chester, I immediately thought of you. :) > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595&pagenumber > > =1 > > > > > > Jim ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:36:18 -0700 From: "Peter Guagenti" <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors Othe subject of warped rotors, I'm running a set of floating rotors and R4S pads, and I seem to have the same problem described earlier of deposits on the rotors that give the feeling of warping. How do you get rid of that? Should I change pads? -peterg
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#7. Re: Mounting Wheels on BMW Motorsports Rims - from vernon@sprynet.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:48:07 -0400 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: Re: Mounting Wheels on BMW Motorsports Rims I was able to witness this difficulty first-hand last week (and I also was able lend a hand) when a Hunter TC350-equiped shop had to mount 4 new Yoko AO32R's for me on 17x7.5" Motorsport M3 rims. Even with a very experienced operator and a nice, well-set-up Hunter machine, this was a very difficult job. This shop has a dyno and other goodies and they see high-po cars daily. They said mounting R-compound tires on 17" M3 wheels is the hardest thing they do. They said it is even harder than mounting C5 Vette (run-flat) tires. They said the 235/40/17 Yoko's are even harder then the 245/40/17 G-Forces that they have done for me in the past. I was told that most other wheels/tires are automatic, but the 2nd inside bead on the Motorsport rims makes life difficult, requiring two pry bars and the special bead-depressor and lots of elbow grease. Dismounting the old ones was no picnic either. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 "Not planning on mounting my own tires in the near future...." --- Hunter Johnson <HJOHNSON@dbmail.debis.de> wrote: > I found an interesting site which explains why mounting tires on the M wheels > is so difficult. Check out http://www.hunter.com/pub/undercar/4369T/4369T.htm > for specifics on the Motorsport rims, plus > http://www.hunter.com/pub/undercar/3848t/3848t.htm for some theory about all > this. > > This is why when my M3 needed new tires, I let my local dealer, who has a > Hunter TC350, mount and balance them for $24 each. > > Hunter =====
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Airbag alert light - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:50:06 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Airbag alert light >So is their any way of fixing this without going to the dealer >to have him reset it NO >or if I do HAVE to go, what is the minimum charge since >it probably will only take them a few minutes to reset the codes. i've had it done for free a couple times, and once was charged 1/4 of an hour. >Also, what >are the dangers of running with the light on if any? opinions vary. last i heard the consenus was the the airbags will deploy in the "default" mode. (as opposed to the "intelligent" mode where the car knows who's in which seat, and how far back they are sitting, etc...) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Airbag light stays on - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:52:22 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Airbag light stays on deja vu! (it's been a bad airbag day i guess) why it happened: you turned the key with the seat unplugged. you only get one chance. once you do it once you're screwed, even if you plug the seat back in later. how to fix it: take it to the dealer. >From: "JLING888" <JLING888@email.msn.com> >Reply-To: "JLING888" <JLING888@email.msn.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: [E36M3] Airbag light stays on >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:32:58 -0500 > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:20:33 -0700 >From: "JLING888" <JLING888@email.msn.com> >Subject: Airbag light stays on > >Hello >I did some repairs on the driver's seat(luxury edition) . After >reintstalling the seat & plugging it back up the airbag light will not >turn off. I tried to remove the battery terminal for 5 minutes w/o any >results. > >BTW, the car is a 95' ///M3 luxo edition...no accidents. > >Any ideas??? > >TIA > >Jeff > > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >************************************************************* > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#10. Re: Autocross Brake Pads - from vernon@sprynet.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:55:14 -0400 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: Re: Autocross Brake Pads As far as autocross goes, I think the stock pads are great. I've had great success with them for two seasons (1999 and 2000 Steel Cities A-Stock titles). They have plenty of stopping power, good feel and there is no heat issue at all for autocross. They work well when cold and they're fairly cheap. Personally, I've never felt the need for aftermarket pads for autocross, the track is a different story because of heat. Just my opinion. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 >I know there has been a lot of discussion about brake pads for the >track, >but for autocross does anyone have recommendations for a pad that is >better >than stock for autocross. Bob Tunnell uses Hawk HP Plus so that's >what I'm >leaning towards at the moment. Any opinions would be >appreciated. > >AJDiVincenti >95 M3
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#11. Re: airbag light / seat belt sensor - from Kirk Pennywitt
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:58:30 -0400 From: Kirk Pennywitt <kp5@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: airbag light / seat belt sensor The airbags deploy at two different speeds of the *car* depending on the seat belt sensor. If you're not wearing your seat belt (or have a faulty sensor), the airbags deploy in a 15 mph or greater collision. If you are wearing your seat belt, they don't deploy until a 22 mph or greater collision. The theory being that if you're wearing your seat belt in a low-speed collision, you don't need the expense of an airbag replacement. (I may be off in the exact deployment speeds listed, but that's the general gist of it.) The airbags do not have two different rates of inflation if that's what you're asking. --kirk '95 M3 > >>>>If the airbag idiot light is on, the airbags should deploy in an >accident, but only at the higher deployment speed. The airbags have 2 >speeds of deployment, it's controlled by the seat belt sensor - if you're >belted in, slow speed, else it's blast your face off. <<<< > >My airbag light goes on and off intermittently. I've had my mechanic reset >it, but it still comes on at some point, he said the seat belt sensor needs >to be replaced and "it's not cheap." > >I can live with the light, except I don't want that airbag going off so fast >that it smashes my face in if I crash. (knockknock on wood!) Can anyone >confirm that there are really 2 speeds of deployment, and that it is >dependent on the airbag light being on or off? > >Also, how much did it cost anyone who had their seat belt sensor replaced, >and/or is it a do-it-yourselfer? > >Thanks > >John >'95 M3