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#1. RE: [E36M3] M3 GT Pics - from Robert Jackowitz
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:18:37 -0400 From: Robert Jackowitz <RJackowitz@HARVPART.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 GT Pics Ben: I hope one day, when you have some time, you'll give us all the skinny on how you managed to bring this puppy into the US. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Liaw [SMTP:ben@shortshifter.com] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 5:03 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 GT Pics Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:52:19 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 GT Pics sheez! it did travel all the way from germany all by itself...a not a single bikini car wash on the way. engine shot? individual throttle bodies? whacha talkin' about? this is a stock M3! :-) ben
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4S - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:35:47 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4S they DO squeal less then R4 pads. but they weren't silent (at least not on my car) >From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> >To: 'E36M3' <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >CC: "'seanh_race@hotmail.com'" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4S >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:24:02 -0400 > >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:03:58 PDT >From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4S > > >Do any of you have this pad? > >If so, do you experience unusual *squealing*? > >everyone's for squealing but it's not unusual. if you have them and they >were QUIET it would be UNUSUAL. ;-P > > >Isn't there a no-squeal guarantee? > >no way, noone's that brave (stupid) > > > >No guarantee to my knowledge, but right from Porterfield's web site > > "R-4 S: Street High-performance & Limited Competition - The high >performance street pad of choice. Very high friction level even at cold >temperatures. No dust or squeal." > >Also... > > "What is the difference between the R-4 and the R-4S? The difference >between the R-4 and R-4S pad is the R-4 has a higher friction level and >will >withstand higher temperatures than the R-4S. Also the R-4 was designed for >racing use, if driven on the street you may experience some dust and or >squeal. The R-4S is designed for street and limited track use. It is a >serious high performance highway pad with high friction levels and is >designed for driver's school, and light track events. R-4S was designed to >produce no squeal and less dust than OE pads." > >Take it for what it is worth. I guess their design fell a little short. I >will find out when I put them on my car (with plastilube behind them). > >Regards, > >Rich ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#3. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #465 - from Jeff James
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:37:29 PDT From: "Jeff James" <jdgtrski@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #465 I am experiencing the same problem. I ran PF-90'S on fairly new Euro spec rotors this past weekend (I had previously broken in the pads with one track day at SIR and about one month of street driving). After the second track session, the rotors felt warped. I drove home and they felt fine on the street. Back at the track the next day they felt fine for the first lap or so, then seemed warped (I had instructors drive the car and they agreed that the rotors were warped). I drove home and haven't felt a thing for almost a week now. Tomorrow I'm heading to the track again. I was going to swap rotors this week, but they seem fine on street driving, so I'm going to give them another try on the track . . . but I'm bringing some spare rotors just in case. If someone has a definitive answer as to what's happening with my rotors I'd sure appreciate hearing it. Thanks Jeff James '95 M3 with wacky rotors Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:36:18 -0700 From: "Peter Guagenti" <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors Othe subject of warped rotors, I'm running a set of floating rotors and R4S pads, and I seem to have the same problem described earlier of deposits on the rotors that give the feeling of warping. How do you get rid of that? Should I change pads? -peterg ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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#4. re: tightening upper strut nut - from Ron Katona
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:42:54 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: re: tightening upper strut nut > Sorry to bug all y'all with this, but I didn't see the replies as to the > correct way to tighten the upper strut nut onto the shaft. I've always > used an impact wrench in the past, how does one damage that bearing? > overtightening? I use an impact wrench on the stock struts for both removal and installation (which is the reverse of removal, BTW). Everything else is a PITA. I'd imagine that the pounding from the wrench could stress the bearings in a direction that they aren't designed to handle, but I haven't had problems so far. There's a tool (of course) to do this properly. It's a socket that's open on both ends and has facets at the top for a wrench. You use a wrench on it and a hex key in the strut shaft. The problem is that you can apply a lot more torque on a large wrench than on a small hex key, so it's difficult to reach the proper tightening torque. I've always rigged some sort of extension for the allen in order to make things work. To really do it properly, you'd also need a torque wrench to use on that special socket and a vice or something to hold the strut. I don't remember what the required torque is. Hence my lazy bastard approach of giving it a quick shot with an impact wrench and being done with it. I do at least turn the impact wrench down to the lower settings for this though. No need to apply 250 lb-ft of torque to these things. My Koni single adjustables have a flat sided tip at the end of the strut shaft. I can get on the nut with a wrench and hold the tip with a vice grip (ouch!). Unfortunately, the tip is rather soft metal and it's easy to strip. I don't care for this design at all - a hex head recess would be superior. I don't use an impact on the adjustables because it can damage the adjustment mechanisms. > What size is the strut nut? With Konis, there is no provision for a hex > key in the top, how does one hold the shaft in place? I want to say 21mm, but don't quote me on that. You mean there's no flat tip like on the adjustables? Is this a Koni insert or a replacement strut? -- Ron Katona
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#5. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #465 - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:07:06 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #465 Hi Jeff. Re: >I am experiencing the same problem. I ran PF-90'S on fairly new Euro spec >rotors this past weekend (I had previously broken in the pads with one track >day at SIR and about one month of street driving). After the second track >session, the rotors felt warped. I drove home and they felt fine on the >street. Back at the track the next day they felt fine for the first lap or >so, then seemed warped (I had instructors drive the car and they agreed that >the rotors were warped). I drove home and haven't felt a thing for almost a >week now. Tomorrow I'm heading to the track again. I was going to swap >rotors this week, but they seem fine on street driving, so I'm going to give >them another try on the track . . . but I'm bringing some spare rotors just >in case. > >If someone has a definitive answer as to what's happening with my rotors I'd >sure appreciate hearing it. Thanks I experienced something similar with PF90's -- the front-wheel wobble was simply unbelievable at speed, on-track, once they had warmed up. It took me a whole day of near-abusive use of the brakes at Laguna Seca until they began to smooth out -- by the middle of the second day the shakes were gone .... I suggest you give them another try, trying to bring them up to temperature gradually, but with firm pressue on the pedal. Once they're "set" with the PF90 material, they should last a long time. If you start with fresh rotors, as I did originally, you'll go through all of this again. Then again, they might be truly warped ... but in my case there was severe kickback into the steering, and darting all over -- but it smoothed out after a day ... I also don't think that street driving has any positive effect towards pad material transfer -- you need to be cookin' at race temps. ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Brake Pads - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:11:14 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Brake Pads Carlos, you guys must be smokin' something! I bet you have Monster Cable to your rear speakers, too. If you guys need special brake pads to slow your cars for autocross corners, then you must not be drivin' very smooth! Now if you are talking about Pro-SOLO, that's maybe different. Most of the autocrosses on the left coast rarely require third gear. Good God Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Brake Pads > Oh good God Joe!! I thought you had been autoxing longer than Chester's > been killing off body parts. ;-) I mildly disagree, I could go for > more bite from the ole binders especially in the front to help rotate > the car. > > Actually another one of those National types, Mark Sipe sez he uses > Carbotech Panthers up front and Green-kelated in the rear. I wouldn't > mind a little brake bias using diff'nt pads so I'm going to order some > Carbotech Panthers for the front and keep my street Pagids in the rear. > Carlos > Motor City Chapter
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Autocross Brake Pads - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:27:22 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Autocross Brake Pads Attaboy, Vern! We agree! Stock pads are fine for autocrossing, R4S's are also fine for autocrossing and don't leave much black dust on the wheels. Joe Dyer ----- Original Message ----- From: <vernon@sprynet.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Autocross Brake Pads > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:55:14 -0400 > From: vernon@sprynet.com > Subject: Re: Autocross Brake Pads > > As far as autocross goes, I think the stock pads are great. I've had great success with them for two seasons (1999 and 2000 Steel Cities A-Stock titles). They have plenty of stopping power, good feel and there is no heat issue at all for autocross. They work well when cold and they're fairly cheap. Personally, I've never felt the need for aftermarket pads for autocross, the track is a different story because of heat. Just my opinion. > > Vern Anderson > 98 M3/2 > > >I know there has been a lot of discussion about brake pads for the >track, > >but for autocross does anyone have recommendations for a pad that is >better > >than stock for autocross. Bob Tunnell uses Hawk HP Plus so that's >what I'm > >leaning towards at the moment. Any opinions would be >appreciated. > > > >AJDiVincenti > >95 M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >
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#8. Re: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:53:28 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) Hi, Chester alert, Forgive me I just let the previous subject line carry over when I replied! Joe Dyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) > > ACK! I think it's a conspiracy....people must be feeding Powell links to tease > me...yeah, that's it! No, I don't have a pickup truck. And, no...it wasn't > herculiner...it was crazy glue and my eye! SHeesh! > > Chester > > --- Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> wrote: > > Its that black sticky goop they spray into pickup trucks for a bedliner. I > > think the guy has a problem ;) > > > > Jim > > > > Joe Dyer wrote: > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > What a hoot! Whatinell is Hurculiner? > > > > > > Joe Dyer > > > 95 BMW M3(obligatory M3 content!) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@home.com> > > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:53 PM > > > Subject: [E36M3] Chester alert > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:46:16 -0700 > > > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > > > > Subject: Chester alert > > > > > > > > I was just notified by the esteemed Porridgehead of a remarkable site. > > > > Chester, I immediately thought of you. :) > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595&pagenumber > > > =1 > > > > > > > > Jim > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:02:09 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) Chester, Ever thought about using Foliatec lacquer to paint your calipers? Its much prettier than Herculiner, which is all icky and unattractive :) Jim Joe Dyer wrote: > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:53:28 -0700 > From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> > Subject: Re: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester alert) > > Hi, Chester alert, > > Forgive me I just let the previous subject line carry over when I replied! > > Joe Dyer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:43 AM > Subject: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester > alert) > > > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Can we please change the subject line? (WAS:Re: [E36M3] Chester > alert) > > > > ACK! I think it's a conspiracy....people must be feeding Powell links to > tease > > me...yeah, that's it! No, I don't have a pickup truck. And, no...it > wasn't > > herculiner...it was crazy glue and my eye! SHeesh! > > > > Chester > > > > --- Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> wrote: > > > Its that black sticky goop they spray into pickup trucks for a bedliner. > I > > > think the guy has a problem ;) > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Joe Dyer wrote: > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > What a hoot! Whatinell is Hurculiner? > > > > > > > > Joe Dyer > > > > 95 BMW M3(obligatory M3 content!) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@home.com> > > > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:53 PM > > > > Subject: [E36M3] Chester alert > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:46:16 -0700 > > > > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > > > > > Subject: Chester alert > > > > > > > > > > I was just notified by the esteemed Porridgehead of a remarkable > site. > > > > > Chester, I immediately thought of you. :) > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595&pagenumber > > > > =1 > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************
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#10. re: [E36M3] suspension question reply #3 - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: re: [E36M3] suspension question reply #3 Hmm. yea that's how I did it before I got the air tools. It was a PITA. -Matt --- albert jenab <jenab@his.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:31:44 -0400 > From: albert jenab <jenab@his.com> > Subject: re: [E36M3] suspension question reply #3 > > At 09:22 AM 8/24/00 -0500, you wrote: > >Okay.. learn something new every day. So, how do > you > >guys hold the strut shaft in place while you > tighten > >the nut? > >-Matt > > I put the socket in a pair of vice grips (really > tight), and then the allen > wrench through the hole in the socket. You can also > grind the sides of a > socket down flat and use a wrench on it. > -Al > 95 M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/