E36M3 #477

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 20:13:50

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#1. Re: [E36M3] k-mac camber plates - from Steve Hazard
#2. Brake Squeal '99 M3 20,000 miles - from Martyme104@aol.com
#3. RE: [E36M3] Brake Squeal '99 M3 20,000 miles - from Jim Bassett
#4. David Ripton's busted Michelin pilot problem - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
#5. RE: (E36M3) E36M3 #476 - from ngoodban@tribune.com
#6. race tires. - from Kit Wetzler
#7. Thanks for the tire advice - from David Ripton
#8. RE: [E36M3] RE: Smooth Trim vs Textured - from Wentz, Don
#9. OLD BFG R1'S - from HAROLDM3P@aol.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #474 - from JSDONE@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] k-mac camber plates - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:32:34 -0400 From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] k-mac camber plates I entertained the thought of adjusting my tie rods after each track, or autocross day, but decided it was to much of a PITA. I agree with Sean. Set the damn camber and just drive the car. I run 3 degrees of Neg up front and 2 Degrees in the rear of my M3/4. Yes the insides of my streets wear fast.....who cares :-) When your running $108 245/40 RE71's it really does'nt hurt the wallet much.....Just knowing your aligment is set correct all the time is worth it.... Good luck with the plates... Regards, Steve I went to the alignment shop yesterday and found that my home alignment (push the plates all the way in and all the way back for max camber/caster) got me a decent amount of caster, but Big Camber... -4 degrees. Perfect for the track, but not too great on tire life... So... does anyone have any suggestions for marking the K-macs? I'd like to go to the track, loosen the bolts, and get Lots of Camber. Then, when I'm done, put them back at -2 degrees (my currect street alignment) and drive home. I suspect that toe goes out with more camber, due to the M3 having leading link steering, but let me know if that is in correct. getting Big Camber, but lots of toe in, is going to make for a miserable track day... [but look how great it tracks down the straights!] -kit 97 m3/4 w/stuff

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#2. Brake Squeal '99 M3 20,000 miles - from Martyme104@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:01:20 EDT From: Martyme104@aol.com Subject: Brake Squeal '99 M3 20,000 miles Experiencing the annoying sound of brakes squealing for the last 1,000 miles. No warning light indication, however dealer says its not unusual of M3 and I should do nothing until the brake light warning comes on. With 20,000 miles of routine driving, am I just kidding myself that this is time to replace the pads, and at the risk of a few hundred miles, is the dealer cheaping out on me? If its not just brake pad replacement, is there a way to eleminate brake squeal, or just put up with it? Marty '99 M3

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Brake Squeal '99 M3 20,000 miles - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:10:13 -0700 From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Squeal '99 M3 20,000 miles > If its not just brake pad replacement, is there a way to > eleminate brake squeal, or just put up with it? Pull the pads off, and re-apply some anti-squeal compound to the back of the pads. Should take care of the squeal. For a good page on brake pad changing, check out www.racepad.com, under "Tech". For anti-squeal compound, I've had good success with the BMW Plastilube, as well as the generic blue spray-on stuff from my local auto parts store. Good luck, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - with PF90's on, squealing like a school bus :-)

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#4. David Ripton's busted Michelin pilot problem - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:38:10 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: David Ripton's busted Michelin pilot problem David; I found a used 245/40/17 MXX3 at the dealership on the stack of tires that are takeoffs. It still had at least 5K miles on it. I also found one at the local shop where tires are changed frequently by track junkies who replace tires like they are going out of style. It was still good. Also my local BMW mechanic had a few used tires that were good. This strategy of course has risks associated with it but might be a good temporizing measure. In addition, the 225/45/17s seem to be very common because it was on the spare wheel and people sometimes don't put their spare into rotation. The Michelin Pilot SX MXX3 in 235/40/17 size came on the 8.5 inch width wheels that were stock on the rear of the 1995 M3 LTW and were an option on the 1995 M3 and newer M3s. So, the tire being on that size works just fine and to some is actually the better solution. Mismatched front to rear in general should be okay (it is not optimal, but it might be okay) since if you were to put brand new tires of the same make and already had tires with a lot of usage on the front you might as well have mismatched tires given the wear and tear and differences in tread height of old versus new. I switched to the same size wheel/tire all the way around to aoivd the staggered wheel problem and allow tire rotation as needed to extend tire life. Marc Edwards 1995 M3 LTW with 8.5s all the way around

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#5. RE: (E36M3) E36M3 #476 - from ngoodban@tribune.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:44:00 -0500 From: <ngoodban@tribune.com> Subject: RE: (E36M3) E36M3 #476 This digest contains the following messages: 1. Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice by: David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> 2. Re: [E36M3] Suspension Improvement questions from a newbie by: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> 3. Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice by: Lee, Peter <plee@mlundy.com> 4. RE: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice by: <MDadgar@handspring.com> 5. Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice by: John Van Houten <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> 6. Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice by: Lee, Peter <plee@mlundy.com> 7. Service Writer question by: Andrew E. Kalman <aek@netcom.com> 8. Re: [E36M3] Service Writer question by: Lee, Peter <plee@mlundy.com> 9. Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice by: Jim Wilcox <JimShadow1@home.com> 10. electrical prob w/speedo by: Olin, Jason (NIMH) <jolin@mail.nih.gov> -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:01:25 -0400 From: David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> Subject: Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice Had a blowout. I need one rear tire for a stock 1998 M3, which is currently wearing 225/45-17 Pilot SX MXX3s (the newer MXX3s) on three wheels (one is the spare) and a 245/40-17 Pilot SX MXX3 on the fourth. The wheels are the stock uncleanable 10-spokes, 17x7.5" front and spare, 17x8.5" back. Obviously I need to correct this ASAP. Neither Tire Tack nor Discount Tires have any 245/40-17 Pilot SX MXX3s in stock. Tire Rack says that there's no supply in sight. So does the local BMW dealer's parts department -- not even one-tire emergency allocation from Michelin. They recommend Pilot Sports instead. Which is fine if you're replacing four tires, possibly fine if you're replacing two, but probably not fine if you're replacing one. I was thinking of buying 4 (or maybe 5) 17x8" SSR Integrals or IFG A5s and 235/40ZR17 tires next spring. Haven't budgeted to do that right now. Buying tires twice in a short period would not be optimal -- if the only safe option is to buy four tires, then I should probably stretch the budget now to get the wheels at the same time. Options: 1. Scrounge and find one 245/40-17 SX MXX3 somewhere. I've been trying, with no luck so far. 2. Buy one 245/40 Michelin Pilot Sport. Cost: $250. 3. Buy two 245/40 Pilot Sports. Keep the 225/40 MXX3s in the front and on the spare. Cost: $500. 4. Replace the rear tires with 235/40 Pilot Sports, on the stock 8.5" rims. When I buy new wheels next year, I'll only have to replace 2 tires instead of 4. Cost: $500. 5. Buy four tires. Since I'd have to replace them again next year when I change wheel sizes, this seems like a poor idea. Cost: $1000 for Pilot Sports, but if I know the tires are temporary I'd probably get something cheaper. 6. Buy four tires, and four wheels. Cost: $2200+, more than I want to spend right now. So I guess my questions are: 1. Anyone got one 245/40ZR17 Pilot SX MXX3 with some tread left for sale? 2. Is having mismatched (but similar) tires on an axle as dumb as I think? 3. Is having mismatched (but similar) tires front and back reasonable, assuming the back tires have the better wet traction? Anyone mixed MXX3s and Pilot Sports on an M3? 4. Do 235/40 Pilot Sports fit okay on 8.5" BMW 10-spoke wheels? Anyone tried it? Thanks. -- David Ripton dripton@wizard.net -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:07:26 -0700 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension Improvement questions from a newbie Yes I hear all of you loud and clear. I have had good experience autoXing my 89 928S4 as well as taking the open wheel racing course at Sears Point, so I am not a completely green driver. I will be autoXing my (new) M3 for the first time this weekend, so I will get a feel for the car there I hope. In the meantime, I am getting the X-brace installed today since I like the fact that it protects the oil pan as well. Having seen quite a few busted oil pans on 928s (Thanks Caltrans), I would like to buy all the insurance that I can for the car. Thank you all for the suggestions, (see you on the track !) Bora ps. I am planning to do the drivers ed next year. Apparently my local region has to hold a "lottery" to decide who gets participate, wow! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Suspension Improvement questions from a newbie > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:52:15 -0700 > From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Suspension Improvement questions from a newbie > > > I am the newest owner of a 1995 M3 in pristine condition. The car is bone > > stock and I am planning on improving the suspension before I > > start on engine > > upgrades. > > > > What are the best improvements I can do for my car for the money? > > All together now: improve the driver :-) > > Join the BMW CCA and sign up for your local chapter's driver schools. > Depending on the chapter, the schools will cost $300-$500 (possibly more for > some tracks - Hi Mark! :-)) for the weekend, and you'll get great > instruction and learn more about your car and how to drive it than you could > anywhere else, IMO. > > > I am currently planning to do the BMW Motorsport X-brace and the > > strut tower > > brace. I have read pretty controversial statements on several web > > site about > > the strut tower braces. Since I would like to spend the least possible > > amount of money, which strut tower brace provides good results > > for the least > > amount of money? > > Should you go that route, for the '95 M3, the BMW Motorsport strut brace is > the best. > > > What else should I plan on upgrading? > > I'll reiterate Mark's comment: for an improvement in day-to-day drivability, > the JimC chip is well worth the money. > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:11:49 -0400 From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice David, splurge and get the SSR Integrals. They're only $309 a piece, and you're not going to find any better priced forged lightweight wheel around. And lightweight they are! I had to get the BBS RK's because they didn't have any 17X8 SSR's in stock. It's always good to have an extra set of wheels. Wouldn't it be nice if you had another set right now? You could take your time with finding the other MXX3. BTW, the MXX3 is nowhere near the Pilot Sport in terms of quality and stickiness. Personally, I prefer the PP S-02. But it's about $10-20 more per tire than the Pilot Sport. Getting mediocre tires now, & more so if you planned to change them later, is a waste of money. Instead, if budget doesn't allow the 4 new SSR's, simply buy two stock wheels in 7.5 configuration. This way, you'll never have the 8.5 vs. 7.5 dilemma in the unfortunate event of a blowout. >>> David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> 08/29/00 03:03PM >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:01:25 -0400 From: David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> Subject: Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice Had a blowout. I need one rear tire for a stock 1998 M3, which is currently wearing 225/45-17 Pilot SX MXX3s (the newer MXX3s) on three wheels (one is the spare) and a 245/40-17 Pilot SX MXX3 on the fourth. The wheels are the stock uncleanable 10-spokes, 17x7.5" front and spare, 17x8.5" back. Obviously I need to correct this ASAP. Neither Tire Tack nor Discount Tires have any 245/40-17 Pilot SX MXX3s in stock. Tire Rack says that there's no supply in sight. So does the local BMW dealer's parts department -- not even one-tire emergency allocation from Michelin. They recommend Pilot Sports instead. Which is fine if you're replacing four tires, possibly fine if you're replacing two, but probably not fine if you're replacing one. I was thinking of buying 4 (or maybe 5) 17x8" SSR Integrals or IFG A5s and 235/40ZR17 tires next spring. Haven't budgeted to do that right now. Buying tires twice in a short period would not be optimal -- if the only safe option is to buy four tires, then I should probably stretch the budget now to get the wheels at the same time. Options: 1. Scrounge and find one 245/40-17 SX MXX3 somewhere. I've been trying, with no luck so far. 2. Buy one 245/40 Michelin Pilot Sport. Cost: $250. 3. Buy two 245/40 Pilot Sports. Keep the 225/40 MXX3s in the front and on the spare. Cost: $500. 4. Replace the rear tires with 235/40 Pilot Sports, on the stock 8.5" rims. When I buy new wheels next year, I'll only have to replace 2 tires instead of 4. Cost: $500. 5. Buy four tires. Since I'd have to replace them again next year when I change wheel sizes, this seems like a poor idea. Cost: $1000 for Pilot Sports, but if I know the tires are temporary I'd probably get something cheaper. 6. Buy four tires, and four wheels. Cost: $2200+, more than I want to spend right now. So I guess my questions are: 1. Anyone got one 245/40ZR17 Pilot SX MXX3 with some tread left for sale? 2. Is having mismatched (but similar) tires on an axle as dumb as I think? 3. Is having mismatched (but similar) tires front and back reasonable, assuming the back tires have the better wet traction? Anyone mixed MXX3s and Pilot Sports on an M3? 4. Do 235/40 Pilot Sports fit okay on 8.5" BMW 10-spoke wheels? Anyone tried it? Thanks. -- David Ripton dripton@wizard.net ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. ************************************************************* -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:13:45 -0700 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice David wrote: > Options: > 4. Replace the rear tires with 235/40 Pilot Sports, on the stock 8.5" > rims. When I buy new wheels next year, I'll only have to replace 2 > tires instead of 4. Cost: $500. Don't do this. If you do, you'll have traction control problems (ie the traction control will activate regularly) because you're changing the circumference of the rear tires. > 5. Buy four tires. Since I'd have to replace them again next > year when I change wheel sizes, this seems like a poor idea. > Cost: $1000 for Pilot Sports, but if I know the tires are temporary > I'd probably get something cheaper. I heard everyone talking about how much they like the S-02 Pole Positions and I figured I wouldn't like them (too much emphasis on wet performance). I was wrong - they're totally awesome. Easily the best street tire I've ever tried. - Mark '95 M3 '97 528i 5-spd '88 M3, Hennarot ---- Mark Dadgar - Product Manager, Accessories (650) 230-5037 voice - (650) 230-2100 fax mdadgar@handspring.com - Handspring, Inc. "wide awake on the edge of the world" - Marillion Check out Visor at www.handspring.com! Dave, I also have gone to S-02's and find them fantastic in dry and wet. Alternatively, wait for September Roundel and see who's selling wheels and tires and hope you get lucky. Nick Goodban 95 M-3 -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:32:05 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice > I heard everyone talking about how much they like the S-02 Pole Positions > and I figured I wouldn't like them (too much emphasis on wet performance). > I was wrong - they're totally awesome. > > Easily the best street tire I've ever tried. I concur whole heartedly. I was going to get the AVS Intermediates because of the good price/performance ratio. I ended up ponying up the cash for the S-02s and haven't regretted it in the slightest. John 95M3 "Ice9" - His-many mods-for sale www.netcom.com/~jvanhout/bmw/bmw.html 97M3/4 - Hers-bone stock 93 325is - still looking -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:36:24 -0400 From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice Keep in mind that those 2 words, "Pole Position" mean A LOT! The non-PP S-02's are still good, but not as durable and sticky as the PP's. >>> "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> 08/29/00 03:33PM >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:32:05 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice > I heard everyone talking about how much they like the S-02 Pole Positions > and I figured I wouldn't like them (too much emphasis on wet performance). > I was wrong - they're totally awesome. > > Easily the best street tire I've ever tried. I concur whole heartedly. I was going to get the AVS Intermediates because of the good price/performance ratio. I ended up ponying up the cash for the S-02s and haven't regretted it in the slightest. John 95M3 "Ice9" - His-many mods-for sale www.netcom.com/~jvanhout/bmw/bmw.html 97M3/4 - Hers-bone stock 93 325is - still looking ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. ************************************************************* -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:52:38 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: Service Writer question For those of you who are chummy with your dealers, what kind of commission / percentage do service writers get? Thanks, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:06:00 -0400 From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Service Writer question I'm pretty close with mine and he told me that he earns a straight salary, regardless of how many or how few cars come in. My local dealer pays its staff *pretty damn well*, IMO. $48k!!?!?!? >>> "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> 08/29/00 04:03PM >>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:52:38 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@netcom.com> Subject: Service Writer question For those of you who are chummy with your dealers, what kind of commission / percentage do service writers get? Thanks, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. ************************************************************* -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:56:41 -0500 From: "Jim Wilcox" <JimShadow1@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can't find MXX3s -- Need tire advice If you are looking for tires on a budget, I'd highly recommend the Yoko AVS Sports. At $161/ea they are a steal!! I still enjoy mine, even after 22K on them. Definetly worth checking into! FWIW<YMMV (usual disclaimers apply) JIM -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:06:39 -0400 From: "Olin, Jason (NIMH)" <jolin@mail.nih.gov> Subject: electrical prob w/speedo What is the likely cause for the speedometer, odometer, and mileage based items on the computer to drop out for a few minutes and then come back again? It's happened a few times in the past few days. The car's still under warranty, but I'm curious... Thanks! Jason Olin '97 M3 2-Dr cosmos black ************************************************************** Digest Commands UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. **************************************************************

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#6. race tires. - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:59:15 -0700 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: race tires. what are you guys all using for race tires? Kumho doesn't make a 245/40r17. Should I run a 255/40r17? 235/40r17? 245/45r17? I'd like to stick to the same size all around. It'll probably be on 8.5 M-contours all around. How much fender rolling am I going to be in for with the 255? Jim Ochi, I think you're running a 255... Anyone in the bay area need to use the Tire Rack's fender roller? I might try to get one out here... Also, anyone have either 1 or 2 8.5" M-Contours for sale? Thanks guys! -kit

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#7. Thanks for the tire advice - from David Ripton
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:02:55 -0400 From: David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> Subject: Thanks for the tire advice Got a bunch of replies to my tire question. I'll summarize since some of them were offline. Someone else had the same problem I did, couldn't find an MXX3, and ended up buying four new tires, so he has an extra rear MXX3 to sell me. Awesome. (A roommate in college told me about a woman who matched people with mismatched feet. People with one foot bigger than the other would write to her with their shoe sizes. She'd try to match opposites, who could then become shoe-swapping pen pals. I imagine that the overhead of doing this, especially getting the word out to enough people to get the critical mass required for most of them to find matches, was pretty significant. But this list just solved an equivalent problem in less than an hour, and saved me several hundred dollars. Suzy, got a Paypal account set up for donations?) Several people think the S-02 Pole Positions are better than the Pilot Sports. When I do buy new wheels, I'll strongly consider them. I see that they're $20 cheaper at Tire Rack than the Pilot Sports, rather than $20 more expensive like someone said. Maybe Bridgestone is cutting prices in the aftermath of the Explorer tire recall? Someone pointed out that having mismatched tire sizes front and rear, other than the stock sizes, would confuse the traction control. I'd read this before, but it had slipped my mind. Someone else pointed out that the SSR Integrals rule and I should get them now. I agree, but my wife doesn't. (She wants to paint the trim and landscape the front yard instead of buying wheels. Talk about a screwed-up set of priorities...) Actually, I think I like the IFG A5s a bit better. In any case, I can now safely defer that decision until spring. (Maybe an even nicer five-spoke wheel will come out between now and then.) Thanks everyone. -- David Ripton dripton@wizard.net

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#8. RE: [E36M3] RE: Smooth Trim vs Textured - from Wentz, Don
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:31:15 -0700 From: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Smooth Trim vs Textured Dang you Rich, you aced me out again! First it was the wheels, now you get part numbers for smooth front/rear moldings, but I'm stuck with textured sides. How about trading me your smooth sides for my textured ones, then we'll each match ;-). dw Jim, That is correct. My 95 M3 (production date 07/95) has smooth side moldings and textured bumper cover moldings and I would be willing to bet they are all original (but I could be wrong). Thanks for the part numbers. Regards, Rich -----Original Message----- From: nabli@attglobal.net [mailto:nabli@attglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:05 PM To: Dorffer, Rich Cc: E36M3 Subject: RE: Smooth Trim vs Textured Rich, The change from smooth to texture went into effect in or about 4/95 production. Front "smooth" = 51 11 2 233 378 center 51 11 2 233 779 left 51 11 2 233 780 right Rear "smooth: = 51 12 1 960 723 left 51 12 1 960 724 right 51 12 1 960 725 center Please double check with the dealer before you order. To the best of my knowledge the ///M side mouldings were never smooth - at least not that I could find. Did you say you had the ///M wide side mouldings in a smooth finish??? Cheers, Jim E "Dorffer, Rich" wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:53:30 -0400 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: RE: Smooth Trim vs Textured > > Don wrote > > > On my 95 I noticed yesterday that the front and rear bumper trim strips are > made from a smooth black plastic. The trim on the doors/fenders is a > textured plastic. > > My friend's 97 has textured all around. > > The smooth is 'blacker' and easier to keep clean. Any one know if there are > side pieces available in the smooth finish? > > Probably an anomaly with pre-1/95 cars... > > Another data point, my 1995 M3 (production date 7/95) has the same > combination of smooth and pebbled trim but in the opposite order. The trim > on the bumper covers is textured with a pebble-like grain effect while the > doors/fenders have a smooth trim. > > This trim was also cleaned with peanut butter and kerosene different times > and the pebbled trim on the bumpers would not come clean (wax residue). > Therefore, I just redyed it this weekend with Bri-Top and it looks like new > again. > > If anyone knows, what is the part number for the smooth trim for the bumper > covers? > > Regards, > > Rich > > 95 M3 with black "like-new" rub strips again. > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************

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#9. OLD BFG R1'S - from HAROLDM3P@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:36:53 EDT From: HAROLDM3P@aol.com Subject: OLD BFG R1'S I have 5 old BFG R1's . One is brand new , never used , 2 are older but still good for autocross and 2 have only one track weekend, but are about 1 year old. I'll let 'em all go for $200.00. By the way, they fit '95 M3's. HAROLD PETIT , JR. 7 GLENWOOD AVE. HARAHAN, LA. 70123 W # 504-733-1495 H # 504-738-1071 e-mail: haroldm3p@aol.com

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#10. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #474 - from JSDONE@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:06:21 EDT From: JSDONE@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #474 Thanks for the response, I'll probably get one soon to help...John

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