E36M3 #522

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:59:41

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#1. RE: [E36M3] UPDATE on Racind Dynamic Splitter GP - from Andrew E. Kalman
#2. RE: Ohio Highways - from Dorffer, Rich
#3. RE: USGP F1 - from Carlos Lopez
#4. Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units - from twisty M3
#5. Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units - from Lee, Peter
#6. Indy F1 - Corral - from Ed Tang
#7. [e36m3] mechtech boost problems. - from Anthony Pun
#8. Re: E46M3 Pricing - from Paul England
#9. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #515 - from Kevin Cox
#10. E46 price --> was E36 prices - from Chris Casey

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#1. RE: [E36M3] UPDATE on Racind Dynamic Splitter GP - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:23:01 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] UPDATE on Racind Dynamic Splitter GP Re: > >This extension that the LTW has, in addition to the >LTW splitter's stronger material (Alum. if I'm not mistaken), >makes it a much better buy, even despite the $700-1000 >premium. The LTW's splitter is a foam-core affair, covered / layered in fiberglass, and then gelcoated (I presume) and painted. All the outriggers / support brackets that hold it in place are made of steel. -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. Pumpkin (tm), Inc. 750 Naples Street San Francisco, CA 94112 (415) 584-6360 (415) 585-7948 fax aek@pumpkininc.com

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#2. RE:  Ohio Highways - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:45:32 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: RE: Ohio Highways Robert asks about the best way to get to Indy via I70 all the way -or- further North, I80 > I76 >I71 > I70. Being an Ohioan who has traveled all of the above roads, I would recommend the I80 > I76 > I71 > I70 route. I70 in PA is not so good in places if I recall. I am not sure where you planned on catching I70 for sure but I would not want to travel the length of it. Within Ohio, I80 is the Ohio turnpike and you would take it to I76 for a short distance and pay your $1. I76 is a lightly traveled 2 lane highway in very good shape with modest patrol. I71 is a moderately traveled 2 lane highway in very good shape with light patrol. I have not driven I70 lately. Good luck and have fun at the USGP. I will be doing my best interpretation of a good driver at Nelson Ledges. Best regards, Rich

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#3. RE: USGP F1 - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:46:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: USGP F1 >Are there any club like activities planned or informal gathering? >GO Jordan, probably not, but i have to tote the company line. Someone from the Hoosier Chapter was setting up a lunch/tent/breakfast thingie that you had to sign up for. All I know is I'm in and I'll be there with my pal Jack Money from the UUC list. Jordan? Nah... I'll be rooting for the momma's boys, the ones driving the red cars. There...there...mommie's lil' F1 driver don't cry. (jk) OK, ok I'll root for Ralf and the hot shoe kid too. :-) I have to go buy an air horn though. -Carlos Motor City Chapter. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:52:43 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units I had a '78 320 with some problems but none related to this. My '99 M3 (14 months old) just had them replaced for the 4th or 5th time (losing count). Jonathan >From: Jim Powell > >It has to be a case of morbid stupidity by BMW. Show of hands, people. >How many of you out there with older BMWs have this problem? I never >had it with my 633. I don't have it with my 1990 E30. I didn't have it >with my '95 E36. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units - from Lee, Peter 
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:05:27 -0400 From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units Thank God for parts warranties!!!!! >>> "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> 09/13/00 10:58AM >>> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:52:43 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Gas sending units I had a '78 320 with some problems but none related to this. My '99 M3 (14 months old) just had them replaced for the 4th or 5th time (losing count). Jonathan >From: Jim Powell > >It has to be a case of morbid stupidity by BMW. Show of hands, people. >How many of you out there with older BMWs have this problem? I never >had it with my 633. I don't have it with my 1990 E30. I didn't have it >with my '95 E36. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#6. Indy F1 - Corral - from Ed Tang
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Indy F1 - Corral Jim wrote: >From: "Jim Wilcox" <JimShadow1@home.com> >Subject: USGP F1 > >Does anybody know if the Indy BMW CCA guys are doing > >any go-karting >during race week??? Stefan Johannsen's said that > >they are booked all week long with "Corporate outings" Just wondering. >BTW, who's going to the race again?? >See you at the Corrall!! I'll be go-karting during the Suzuka GP. At Indy, I'll be in the Corral which I believe is sponsered by BMW (gotta detail the car)...can't wait. I'm in section E at the last corner I believe. Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#7. [e36m3] mechtech boost problems. - from Anthony Pun
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:21:19 -0700 From: Anthony Pun <apun@Paradigm4.com> Subject: [e36m3] mechtech boost problems. Hey Everyone, Looks like my MechTech Turbo is quitting on me. When I first had it installed (January 2000 - used kit, purchased from Suzy), it would jump to 6psi and settle to 5psi, which seemed perfect. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed that it would jump to 6psi, settle at 5psi and then drop off to 2-3psi in the upper rpm range (4500 - 7000). Then yesterday, it would only jump to 4psi and settle around 1-2psi! I made sure that the oil reservoir was full, and all the piping/tubing was tight. Anyway, I'll be calling MechTech in about an hour, but if any of you has any ideas, please send them my way. Thanks. Tony '96 M3 MechTech Turbo

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#8. Re: E46M3 Pricing - from Paul England
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:41:28 -0400 From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: E46M3 Pricing That sounds like a load of hooey to me. One of my dealers (Also #2 nationally, Global BMW in Atlanta) told me the opposite--that BMWNA encourages them NOT to sell cars above MSRP, so they're selling the E46M3 at sticker. 'Course if you order one now from them, you might get a 2003. BMW cannot enforce any policy above or below that, since the dealers are independant companies (antitrust, price-fixing laws being what they are and all). They can set MSRP (which is exactly that, suggested) and MAP (minimum advertised price). The dealer could sell it to you for $1.75 if they were so inclined. -Paul >From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> >Is there any truth to what my dealer tells me... >that BMW NA "will not allow below MSRP sales" >of the new M3? Does this make any sense? >Can a car manufacturer place such a minimum >price requirement? After all, MSRP stands for >Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price. >Not MINIMUM Retail Price!

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#9. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #515 - from Kevin Cox
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:50:08 -0700 From: "Kevin Cox" <bigk@w-link.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 #515 I found a conversion table at the following address: www.igus.com/conv.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: [E36M3] E36M3 #515 This digest contains the following messages: 1. Re: [E36M3] Any Solution to Fuel Starvation? by: <LoweSeaton@aol.com> 2. BBS Wheel wrench by: Rob Hatrak <Hatrak@ix.netcom.com> 3. 95 M3: AC switches reversed? by: Rob Hatrak <Hatrak@ix.netcom.com> 4. RE: [E36M3] BBS Wheel wrench by: Seth Thomas <porsche993@mindspring.com> 5. Your advice please... by: Lee, Peter <plee@mlundy.com> 6. Re: G-Force, Crap or Crown Jewels? by: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> 7. 2000 M5 for Sale by: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> 8. Driving after an MVA by: Wayne Miller <m3@waynemiller.com> 9. Re: [E36M3] 2000 M5 for Sale by: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> 10. [E36M3] Wheel torque specs in Nm or Ft Lbs. by: GSM M3 <carpediemm3@hotmail.com> -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:30:01 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Any Solution to Fuel Starvation? Jonathan and Rich ask about fuel starvation at the track: I don't know about it causing INTERNAL damage, but it can cause a lot of EXTERNAL damage - like totaling your car! We all know what Lift Throttle Oversteer is? It occurs in a corner if you reduce the throttle too abruptly. Weight shifts to the front wheels much like applying the brakes. As a result, the rear wheels have less weight and the back end can come around, i.e., oversteers. Fuel starvation is the worst form of Lift Throttle Oversteer. You are not just "reducing" the throttle, it is completely cut off! Your rear wheels want to lock up, they have to turn over the dead engine. And there is nothing you can do about it! When it happens, mentally you know you need to apply more gas, but you could floor the gas pedal and it won't do a bit of good. There is no gas available. I had the pleasure of spinning off backwards at 90 mph into a mud bog at Texas World Speedway. It ripped every plastic body part off my M3 - under engine shroud, both corner triangle pieces, both front fender liners, one side skirt, rear valence. Cost about $800. Going off a track backwards can get very costly in a hurry. Someday I will install a second fuel pump. I'm not going to have it happen again. Until then, I do (and recommend) buy gas at the track even if it does cost $5 per gallon. That is a lot cheaper than totaling your M3. I doubt if the second fuel pump would be legal in most races. However, I don't plan to be doing any sanctioned racing with my M3. Lowell Seaton '95 M3/2 Dallas, Texas BMW CCA #131505 > I don't have an answer but I'd be interested to hear if you find something. > > I'd only heard the starvation problem talked about briefly in the past but > never thought much of it. This weekend, however, I learned rather quickly > what people were complaining about. At WSIR I was coming out of turn 2 and > had to check to see if my traction control was still on. This was with just > over a quarter tank and it had gotten so bad after a few laps that I really > thought I'd accidentally bumped the ignition key off. At least it saved my > brakes for the next turn. ;-) Could this cause any internal damage or is it > just REALLY annoying? -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:42:58 -0700 From: "Rob Hatrak" <Hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: BBS Wheel wrench Anyone who owns BBS RC wheels (and possibly other BBS wheels) knows what a cheap POS the plastic wrench is that comes with the wheels for the removal/installation of the center caps. It is a hollow black box with a mold on one side that fits over the wheel cap. The plastic is very flimsy and easily damaged. I have stripped/broken my sixth one this weekend, and need to order yet another one as my backup (Since they are so cheap [quality, not price], I always have two on hand). Does anyone else that has RCs on their car share my frustration? Are there any better wrenches out there for this application? Thanks in advance, Rob 95 M3 Sin City Chapter -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:43:33 -0700 From: "Rob Hatrak" <Hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: 95 M3: AC switches reversed? I just noticed that the AC switches seem to be reversed on my car. For example, the recirc. button changes the vents, but also turns the compressor on and off. The other button (the compressor on/off) does nothing except turn on/off the little green light. The compressor stays on no matter what mode this switch is in. Does anyone have any idea what could be going on with my car? If I can't figure it out, I plan to head to the dealer on Saturday. Thanks in advance, Rob 95 M3 Sin City Chapter -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:57:04 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] BBS Wheel wrench I use my hands and get them hand tight. Never had one fall off yet. But if you need one I do have an extra. Just let me know. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hatrak [mailto:Hatrak@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:49 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] BBS Wheel wrench Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:42:58 -0700 From: "Rob Hatrak" <Hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: BBS Wheel wrench Anyone who owns BBS RC wheels (and possibly other BBS wheels) knows what a cheap POS the plastic wrench is that comes with the wheels for the removal/installation of the center caps. It is a hollow black box with a mold on one side that fits over the wheel cap. The plastic is very flimsy and easily damaged. I have stripped/broken my sixth one this weekend, and need to order yet another one as my backup (Since they are so cheap [quality, not price], I always have two on hand). Does anyone else that has RCs on their car share my frustration? Are there any better wrenches out there for this application? Thanks in advance, Rob 95 M3 Sin City Chapter ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. ************************************************************* -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:04:33 -0400 From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> Subject: Your advice please... I just had a *minor* MVA... driver side front control arm is messed up, sway bar link may need to be replaced, etc. etc. etc... This'll be the 2d time this year where my car has had to have body work done to it... I've always heard that a car never drives the same after an MVA, big or small... Assuming that this is true, would it be wise to sell it now? It's a 96 with 45 clicks... -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 05:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: G-Force, Crap or Crown Jewels? Jim Powell wrote: >In this corner we have Gentilozzi or whatever his name is, developing >them on Trans Am. ***That might tell you something right there.*** If it IS him then that's kind of amusing (ironic?). Most races he doesn't win are caused by a tire failing during the race (when Texas heat doesn't take your motor). Carlos Motor City Chapter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:53:53 GMT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: 2000 M5 for Sale [cross-posting to cover an interested audience...] BMW Excluservice, Rockville, MD (301-231-5400) has a 2000 M5 for sale. It has 1500 miles on it, and is painted in a custom light blue (I don't know what the color is called, but it's a blue-silver metallic), and two-tone leather seats (dark gray with light gray center sections). Michelin Pilot Sports, navigation system, yadda yadda... Asking $79k. If interested, call and ask to speak with Lothar (the owner). BTW, Lothar is also an authorized BMW new car dealer, and has access to the BMW Individual program. So, if you want to order a custom E46 M3, or any car in BMW's line, give him a call. A few years back he custom ordered a Daytona Violet 530iT, and I've seen several Individual E36 M3s and E34 5-series cars. -rb (M5 spotted by my car-aware 11-year-old son) ________________________________________________________________________ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:10:14 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: Driving after an MVA As most of you know, just about the entire front of my car was damaged in an "incident" at a DE event last year. There was a little suspension damage (the lower control arm was bent) but just about everything else was replaced, including everything on the left front (shock tower, fender, etc.). You absolutely can't tell by driving the car that there was ever anything wrong with it - I even got FTD at the most recent NJBMWCCA autocross (by .3 seconds which is a lot for autocrossing). I have had other people drive the car and there just isn't any indication. I guess that it all depends on who does the work on the car. -Wayne -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:39:38 -0700 From: "Peter Guagenti" <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2000 M5 for Sale > ... and is painted in a custom light blue (I don't know > what the color is called, but it's a blue-silver metallic Wow, sounds like the old E28 "Baltic Blue". What a sweet color... -p -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:54:13 GMT From: "GSM M3" <carpediemm3@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Wheel torque specs in Nm or Ft Lbs. Greetings gang, Does a list exist of ALL or at least the most common torque settings? In the meantime, would someone shoot me the numbers to tighten my Contours. I set them at 73 ft lbs. Thanks, Greg '99M ________________________________________________________________________ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#10. E46 price --> was E36 prices - from Chris Casey
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> Subject: E46 price --> was E36 prices Mercedes did this starting this year, I believe. I was told (back in July 99) that I could "get a deal" (= $500 off MSRP) on a 99, but that they wouldn't negotiate on the 00 models. Don't know how successful this new policy has been, but I suspect here (CA Bay Area), they're having no problems selling at whatever price they deem fair. -Chris > From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Prices > > ... > > Is there any truth to what my dealer tells me... > that BMW NA "will not allow below MSRP sales" > of the new M3? Does this make any sense? > Can a car manufacturer place such a minimum > price requirement? After all, MSRP stands for > Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price. > Not MINIMUM Retail Price! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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