E36M3 #526

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 23:59:03

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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36 prices - from Bora Akyol
#2. Squeaky M.... - from Michael Bird
#3. Re: [E36M3] More Brake Qs - from Carlos Lopez
#4. Re: [E36M3] More Brake Qs - from Sean Hester
#5. EBC brake pad noise - from Ted Telesky
#6. ASC question - from C Griffith
#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Apparently our filter isn't working... - from Robert Chay
#8. Re: [E36M3] [e36m3] mechtech boost problems. - from Alain van der Heide
#9. RE: [E36M3] More Brake Qs - from MDadgar@handspring.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] Squeaky M.... - from Jim Bassett

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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36 prices - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:58:57 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 prices Just to add fuel to the fire, even 95 M3s (in excellent shape) are going around 29-30K around SF/Bay Area. Bora Paul Elliott wrote: > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:39:41 -0400 > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > Subject: E36 prices > > >>At the rate these prices are dropping, it may be best > to sell your E36 now, << > > Gee, that's strange....We've been noticing just the opposite...Seems '99s > are selling in the very high 30s or low 40s. Even 97s are selling in upper > 30s...Check latest roundel, and others....I agree, nows the time to sell, > not because they're dropping like a rock, but because the prices are really > holding well! I think we' re good shape...If '97s are going for upper 30s > now, when folks are saying prices are dropping, they'll only get stronger as > people start to experience personally how hard the E46s are going to be to > come by for the next year or two. And sticker shock will also turn a lot of > them away, sending them right to the nearest, well maintained, gorgeous, and > affordable (relative to the E46) M3! > _____________________________ > Paul Elliott > '99 Alpine White M3; <20000 mi; Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage > II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift Kit and clutch stop; Skaags pedals

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#2. Squeaky M.... - from Michael Bird
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:01:02 -0400 From: "Michael Bird" <MJBird@bellsouth.net> Subject: Squeaky M.... I am new to the list, so forgive me if this has been brought up before, but has BMW ever gotten around to fixing the notorious squeaking clutch so prevalent on the E36? My car and almost every friend of mine who has one complains of this. This past week I drove a friend's car for several days and not only does her clutch pedal squeak badly but also her steering column squeaks too. As does she, when I forget to stop at those red glowing things at intersections.<g> Stop lights, yeah, those. Michael

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#3. Re: [E36M3] More Brake Qs - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:23:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] More Brake Qs Umbrella dude asked: >1) How many cans of the ATE fluid do I need to pick up. Two. One to bleed the system, the 2nd to kick over and spill all over the floor. BTW I don't know if anyone else has similar experiences but my best results have been to a) pressure bleed (using Steve D'Gerolamo cap) b) drive the car for a few days c) pressure bleed again My pedal is solid after that. Sweet! Carlos Motor City Chapter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#4. Re: [E36M3] More Brake Qs - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:00:51 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] More Brake Qs >BTW I don't know if anyone else has similar experiences but my best >results have been to a) pressure bleed (using Steve D'Gerolamo cap) >b) drive the car for a few days c) pressure bleed again lots of fluid "hides" in the system. in the ABS, in the clutch (it uses the same fluid), and a couple other places. the "doing it twice" is pretty much the only way to make sure you get it all. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#5. EBC brake pad noise - from Ted Telesky
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:05:44 -0400 From: Ted Telesky <TTelesky@compuserve.com> Subject: EBC brake pad noise I have had my greenstuff EBC brakes pads for about a month. I have put on about 2000 miles. They still hear me coming a block away... really loud squeal once they are warm. Are the Redstuff any quieter? Is there anything I can do to silence the Green pads? Thanks Ted

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#6. ASC question - from C Griffith
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:45:01 -0500 From: "C Griffith" <cgriffith@topspinlabs.com> Subject: ASC question All, Yesterday my 97 M3 with ~50K miles began to trip the ASC under normal driving conditions. It is easily repeatable by driving along at 70 mph on the highway and trying to accelerate the car with 3/4s throttle. Within 2 seconds the ASC kicks in and begins pulling back throttle. Condition wise, there is absolutely no reason for the ASC to be kicking in. If you turn off the ASC the car drives and accelerates normally. I have an appt. next week with the dealer, but if anyone has experienced this before and can you tell me what the resolution was I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Chris Griffith www.bmwmseries.com

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Apparently our filter isn't working... - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:53:33 -0700 From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Apparently our filter isn't working... How about just kicking them off the list??? I think that would be enough of a deterrent. If they don't care, then good riddance. -Bobby People have a right to be stupid, some just abuse it.

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#8. Re: [E36M3] [e36m3] mechtech boost problems. - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:41:15 -0600 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh@attglobal.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] [e36m3] mechtech boost problems. From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > > Could be a few things: > 1) Exhaust leak between head and turbine (you'd hear > it) > 2) Turbo bearing problem (see if it spins freely and > smoothly by hand.) > 3) Air leak downstream of the compressor Ooh, ooh!! (raising his hand). Check the 90 degree bellows between the airflow meter and throttle. Mechtech "reinforces" this with wire ties that may break. When they do, there's a good chance the bellows will tear. When it happened to me during an open track event, I went from 5 psi to 1 in about 10 minutes. I replaced the bellows, and instead of using more wire ties, I bought some reinforced radiator hose in a diameter big enough to fit snugly around the bellows. I used hose clamps (not particularly tight) to hold it in place. It's the same stuff used to connect the intake "horn" to the airflow meter, but maybe the next size up in diameter. Hideously expensive ($7.00/ft), but McGuckins was happy to sell me 3" worth. > 4) Problem with the boost control system. If you have > a boost controller it could be failing. > 5) Something else?? > You will need to get it checked out. Usually when a > turbo fails it does one of three things: Either it > grenades and impeller bits fly or the bearings sieze > up and it won't spin any more. Or it loses the oil > seals. If your bearing is starting to go, it won't be > long before it makes no boost at all. Chances are > that your problem lies elsewhere, though.

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#9. RE: [E36M3] More Brake Qs - from MDadgar@handspring.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:17:59 -0700 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] More Brake Qs Sean wrote: > >BTW I don't know if anyone else has similar experiences but my best > >results have been to a) pressure bleed (using Steve D'Gerolamo cap) > >b) drive the car for a few days c) pressure bleed again > > lots of fluid "hides" in the system. in the ABS, in the > clutch (it uses the same fluid), and a couple other places. > the "doing it twice" is pretty much the only way to make sure > you get it all. My preferred method is to: 1) attach pressure bleeder 2) bleed brakes AND CLUTCH (the bleed nipple for the clutch is under the the car on the left side of the transmission housing, about half-way up) 3) go out and drive the car around. Stomp on the brakes hard enough to engage the ABS. 4) repeat above Painful, but it works. - Mark '95 M3 '97 528i 5-spd '88 M3, Hennarot ---- Mark Dadgar - Product Manager, Accessories (650) 230-5037 voice - (650) 230-2100 fax mdadgar@handspring.com - Handspring, Inc. "wide awake on the edge of the world" - Marillion Check out Visor at www.handspring.com!

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Squeaky M.... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:58:10 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Squeaky M.... At 08:08 PM 9/13/00 -0500, Michael Bird wrote: >I am new to the list, Hi Michael, welcome aboard. >so forgive me if this has been brought up before, but >has BMW ever gotten around to fixing the notorious squeaking clutch so >prevalent on the E36? BMW? Not that I've heard. I've had mine worked on twice, and it still aqueaks. Ron Stygar has come with a possible solution: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/drivetrain/e36_remove_clutch_pedal_slop.html I haven't tried it yet, maybe I'm numb to the squeak now :-) >and not only does her clutch pedal squeak badly but also her steering column >squeaks too. Yep, got that one too. Had the squeak on my previous 328is and the dealer replaced the slip ring, I believe, under warranty. As I can barely hear this squeak over the clutch squeak, I haven't gotten it fixed either (that, and the car is out of warranty). >As does she, when I forget to stop at those red glowing >things at intersections.<g> > >Stop lights, yeah, those. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that term :-) Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - a bit squeakier, but no less fun to drive

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