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#1. Help with torsion testing and harmonic testing - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Help with torsion testing and harmonic testing I forgot who, here, was an engineer who tested chassis harmonics and the such. Please contact me privately. Thanks, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#2. Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 on ebay - from Brent91NSX@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 05:25:44 EDT From: Brent91NSX@aol.com Subject: Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 on ebay Wasn't suggesting it wasn't a real M3, just the mirrors replaced, salvage title, curious about the history of the car. I believe it's really a M3. I think the car has more of a story than has been told by the seller, i.e. wrecks, etc. Brent Parks
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#3. Re: [E36M3] TC Kline Rollbar Prod.Status - from Roxana Melnitschenko
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Roxana Melnitschenko <PrimaM3@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TC Kline Rollbar Prod.Status > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:52:03 EDT > From: ERogers005@aol.com > Subject: TC Kline Rollbar Production Status > > Does anyone have information on the delivery status for TC Kline's E36 M3 > rollbars? I ordered mine in early May and at that time was told there was a 2 > month backlog. In July I inquired on delivery status and was told the backlog > was even longer perhaps as long as 4 months. Their fabricator cannot keep up > with the demand and they were looking for another party to assist them (while > meeting the same production standards). Since then all my inquiries to TC > Kline have gone unanswered. Is any other lister in the same situation? > Anyone have some accurate information? Thanks > > Ed Rogers > 95 M3 TC Kline's Delivery Status-Sucks!After hearing good things, I placed an order for a Rollbar at the end of last year and was promised delivery before my first driving school in mid March--to have it installed. After repeated inquiries and being told that they were working on a re-design for a 4-door and still did not have it ironed out--I Cancelled my Order. To date I was not issued a refund for my deposit (after repeated inquiries and promises) ....My view on their business operations has left me with a bad taste in my mouth and I hope that you will have better luck in your purchase. From what I hear, this is the 'Norm' of how they operate. Good luck Roxana Melnitschenko PrimaM3@excite.com '97 M3 that rocks'n rolls _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
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#4. Tri-Flo Exhaust & Tires/Rims 4-sale - from Ben C. Tickner
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:17:59 -0700 From: "Ben C. Tickner" <ben@infofusion.com> Subject: Tri-Flo Exhaust & Tires/Rims 4-sale Getting ready to trade 95 M3. Items 4 sale: set of 4 contours (immaculate) with Pilot sx 50%. $1000 Tri Flo Exhaust (single tip) $650 Or both for $1550 Email me = ben@dewal.com Ben 95
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#5. Solo-II Champs - from Ron Katona
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:08:30 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Solo-II Champs I saw the Pro Solo results mentioned here, but haven't seen mention of the Solo-II championships. Congratulations to Bob and Patty Tunnell for taking the ESP and ESP Ladies championships in their '95 M3! My personal thanks to Bob for always taking the time to answer e-mail about setup on the M3 for Solo-II. I know several of us bend your ear often and you're always more than willing to share your "secrets." Todd Green from Salt Lake City, sponsored by Eurosport/Conforti, finished third in a '97 M3 in his rookie appearance. Nice job Todd! Although the top drivers are showing some class by not complaining (at least not publicly), the whining has already begun from the back markers about moving the M3 out of ESP. I think it's going to be hard to ignore the pleas from the Pony Car crowd who were beaten pretty badly by not only Bob, but by the Diamond Star turbos at both the Pro Solo and the Solo-II finals as well as throughout the year. One guy, Mark Madarash, stands out as a serious threat in ESP in an 88 Firebird. The rest of the Pony Car field were not particularly strong this year. I don't think the M3 is an overdog in ESP, but there's a feeling that this is a Pony Car class and them ferrin' cars shouldn't win. Oddly, there's less outrage against the DSMs, but if they take the M3 out and DSMs win next year, you're likely to hear the whining again. Bob wouldn't have won BSP or CSP if you directly compare the times for those classes ignoring any effect on changing weather conditions (sunny and dry all week, but cooler and windier in the later days). Those are the two possible classes where the M3 might end up. Since it came out of CSP, it will probably go to BSP. Not to say that Todd Green or some other newcomer can't further improve the car and win those classes, but Bob sets the bar pretty high. It's not likely that we'll see a better prepared and driven E36 M3 for some time meaning its chances of winning a street prepared title next year are slim if it gets moved. In AS the S2000 and Boxster dominate, so there's tough going there too. There will be a reclassing of stock either next year or in 2002, so maybe the E36 M3 will land somewhere friendly. The E30 M3 will be reborn in GS next year (barring any further changes) where it could be very competitive again! All in all a great year for the E36 M3 in Solo-II. Next year will probably be tougher in SP, but there's hope for stock class. At the local level, M3s are still as competitive as anything out there. Not bad for a car that's starting to get a little long in the tooth, has the "crappy" US motor, and isn't a "real" M car, and all that! Next year I plan on attending the Nationals at Topeka in SP trim no matter where the car is classed. Looking over the times of drivers I've competed against locally who attended Nats this year, I'd have been mid pack in ESP if I drove well. In the typical East Coast 45 second run, that would equate to about a 2 second gap from Bob to me... and I'm leading ESP locally! It's sometimes hard to fathom how fast these guys are at the very top levels of the sport. Oh well, another year to tweak the car and improve the driver. Good luck to Bob next year in the E46! -- Ron Katona
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#6. Request from sellers - from Carey Probst
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:11:25 -0400 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Request from sellers Please when advertizing items for sale give us relatively new folks a clue where you live so we can determine if it's worth following up. Shipping tires/wheels from west coast to east usually isn't cost effective. Thanks -- Carey Probst '99 M3 E-Mail: Carey.Probst@oracle.com Perm: hcprobst@alum.mit.edu A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#7. The Crash - from Matt Henson
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: The Crash Wow that video is pretty high quality. Anyway, A lot of us track or do DE with our cars so I think an analysis is relevant to the list. Clearly he early apexed the turn. It looks like he got on the brakes a little late also, at least for the line he chose. I think he was basically trail braking too much. I found myself doing the same thing for the first part of my DE class - once the rear started to come around but I caught it. It's very important that you do 99% of your braking in a straight line. Anyway, the excessive trail braking got his rear loose. He countersteered a little at the start but not enough so it continued to come around. He then gave it full reverse lock but by then it was too late. What do the experienced guys think? Am I close? Any idea of what he could have done once the spin was started to prevent the rollover? -Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#8. Re: [E36M3] e36M3 ESP? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:36:14 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36M3 ESP? In a message dated 9/16/00 12:14:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rkatona@bellatlantic.net writes: << Bob wouldn't have won BSP or CSP if you directly compare the times for those classes ignoring any effect on changing weather conditions (sunny and dry all week, but cooler and windier in the later days). Those are the two possible classes where the M3 might end up. Since it came out of CSP, it will probably go to BSP. >> Ron, In my last email to Bob, the e36M3 should stay in ESP at least for another year. Bob is such a "master" at driving the M3 at the limits (slow in the slow places and fast in the fast places) that I think there is a feeling that if Bob were behind the wheel of one of the pony cars...he'd win in that too! Most agree, looking at his past record. Well, I guess time will tell. Sometimes the SCCA does some strange times. I hope the car stays in ESP..already bought the magnetic letters for next season;-) Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 1st AS - '97 2nd AS - '98 & '99 mov'in to ESP in '01
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#9. Re: [E36M3] e36M3 ESP? - from Robert
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:03:29 -0400 From: "Robert" <rpace3@hcsmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36M3 ESP? > year. Bob is such a "master" at driving the M3 at the limits (slow in the > slow places and fast in the fast places) that I think there is a feeling that > if Bob were behind the wheel of one of the pony cars...he'd win in that too! > Most agree, looking at his past record Have to agree that Bob can win in just about any class he enters...I don't have the results right in front of me but I recall he did very well in CSP last year (1st perhaps?) with his M3. Putting the M3 in ESP was a gutsy move by the SEB and hopefully the pony-boys won't bamboosal the Board into moving it elsewhere. If you look at the results, M3s were pretty well scattered thoughout the ESP times, which is a good indication that it is well classed. Robert Pace '95 ///M3 #3 AS
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#10. Re: [E36M3] e36M3 ESP? - from Ron Katona
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:57:31 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36M3 ESP? I'd say it's more like fast in the slow places and really fast in the fast places in Bob's case! <g> I've heard this too and I certainly hope it's true. I'd love to compete in ESP again next year. To tell you the truth, here in the DC region there's not much difference between CSP, BSP, and ESP. In fact, BSP is pretty soft here while CSP is full of hot CRX's and there are a couple of hot shoes in well prepared F-bodies in ESP. I'd probably be better off in BSP locally. On the tours it's a different story though. Yes, Bob's driving skill _should_ be considered... but it's a double edged sword. For everyone who points to the driver and says hey, that's Bob Tunnell driving, don't expect all M3s to be that fast, there's someone else who will say hey, Bob proves that _every_ M3 _could_ be that fast. Of course, if the Pony Car contingent can be vocal, so can we. Contact the Solo Events Board (SEB) and let them know how you feel. Like you say, time will tell. -- Ron Katona Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Ron, > > In my last email to Bob, the e36M3 should stay in ESP at least for another > year. Bob is such a "master" at driving the M3 at the limits (slow in the > slow places and fast in the fast places) that I think there is a feeling that > if Bob were behind the wheel of one of the pony cars...he'd win in that too! > Most agree, looking at his past record. > Well, I guess time will tell. Sometimes the SCCA does some strange times. I > hope the car stays in ESP..already bought the magnetic letters for next > season;-)