E36M3 #542

Monday, September 18, 2000 13:44:31

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Coolant digestion - from Ed Tang
#2. [E36M3] Brakes (it never ends) - from Patrick Sarne
#3. [E36M3] Gettin' it up - floor jack - impression - from GSM M3
#4. crash at lime rock video - from Ed Tang
#5. Re: [E36M3] Side air-bag Recall - from nabli@attglobal.net
#6. LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Ron Katona
#7. Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Chester Wong
#8. Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Lee, Peter
#9. Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Ron Katona
#10. Re: EBC brake pad noise - from Ron Buchalski

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#1. Coolant digestion - from Ed Tang
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Coolant digestion Ben Wrote: >From: "Ben C. Tickner" <ben@infofusion.com> >Subject: Drinking problem?? > >My 95 has started to devour about 12oz of coolant >each month. Is this >normal? I have always driven the car the same and >have never had to add >coolant. It sure is not leaking on the ground. I am >starting to think >that I >might have one of those "bad water pumps". Did anyone >figure out a >tell-tale >way of determining plastic or metal, besides >disassembly? > >Thanks- > >Ben 95M3-thirsty- My water pump went out and disassembly was the only way to check whethter you have plastic or metal. You might want to check that the bleeder valve is shut. It has a phillips recepticle in it. That's the only thing I can think of if you don't see leaks under the car. Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#2. [E36M3] Brakes (it never ends) - from Patrick Sarne
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:32:20 -0700 From: Patrick Sarne <PatrickS@HoyleDonnelly.com> Subject: [E36M3] Brakes (it never ends) Okay, so I'm ringing in a little late here... Hey Jonathan, as Jim Powell says, I wouldn't worry about the Modic BS. The pressure bleeder that Jim or I have works just fine. I know that San Diego is quite a drive from Ventura, but like I said, if you come on the weekend of the 30th, you can stick around for the paintball game. So anyway, I've got 2 unused cans of ATE Super Blue... is there anyone (Jim P., Patrick S.?) in the So Cal area who happens to have a pressure bleeder, this Modic-watchamacallit, any other necessary tools and experience in changing brake fluid in '99 M3s who'd be interested in making a few bucks or a few beers and some food for helping a brother out? Jonathan L.

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#3. [E36M3] Gettin' it up - floor jack - impression - from GSM M3
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:37:15 GMT From: "GSM M3" <carpediemm3@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Gettin' it up - floor jack - impression Just a short follow-up, regard’g the floor jack post/issue I made a few weeks ago. For a quick recap: I wanted to buy a good quality floor jack, and simply wanted it to come from this country. Lincoln (one of the industry heavies) has since purchased a Taiwanese facility, and no longer makes their model 93642 (a favorite among DIY’ers on this list) in this country, yet they print it(made in the USA) in small type on the jack sticker/decal, despite it saying “fabrique in Taiwan” (again in small type) on the box. New marketing perhaps (yes I’m aware that the box might have come from Taiwan, but not the case here). IMO, OTC, would have to have balls the size of brass church bells to make such a claim (if untrue), since their “made in the USA” quote, appears across the entire decal in large bold type, on the jack (no box). I’ve had the OTC (model 1727) 2 ton floor jack now for two weeks. In a word, in-f*cking-credible! I’ve used it 5X’s now, not including the numerous times I’ve had to jack up my 3yr old son, while he stands upon it. But I digress… Here’s what you really want know: OTC No. 1727 Competition -High Lift Height 22 1 /2" 20" -Low Lift Height 3 3 /4" 3 3 /4" -Low Lift Reach 27" 25" -Wheel Base 23 1 /2" 22 1 /2" -Chassis Height 6 1 /2" 6 1 /2" -Overall Length 30 1 /2" 27" -Handle Length 48" 48" -Manufacturing Source USA CHINA -Warranty Lifetime 5 yrs. The only downside that I’ve found is: 1.It weighs more then Lincoln (only about 10Lbs though – 108Lbs). 2.It isn’t the nice Lincoln Royal blue & yellow. The OTC is Carolina blue, however, since I live 1.5 miles from UNC of Chapel Hill, I’ve had plenty of time to grow accustom to this harmless sky blue. 3.Lastly, price. The OTC was $315 (MSRP $399 USD), Lincolns, can usually be found for $299, though I’ve heard of a luck few, finding them for as little as $199, on sale. Check ‘em out at http://www.OTCtools.com, select the link “The Jack,” be sure you check out the .pdf file w/ specs & images. I highly recommend this unit, for anyone that doesn’t mind shelling out a few extra shillings. HTH. Kind regards, Greg ‘99M (lookin' for an excuse to get it up again!) Usual disclaimer: Nothing whatsoever to do w/ these guys. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#4. crash at lime rock video - from Ed Tang
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:45:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: crash at lime rock video Looks like he carried a good amount of speed into the turn and sounds to me like he just got too scared and stayed off the gas. I think if he just kept his foot there instead of transfering all that weight forward he would have been fine...your thoughts. Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Side air-bag Recall - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:13:30 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Side air-bag Recall Here it is again: Here is the info guys: "GROUP 72 72 10 99 Woodcliff Lake, NJ Safety Restraint Systems Service Engineering Subject Recall 99V-063.001: Recoding the E36 M3 MRS Control Module Perform the procedure outlined in this Service Information on all affected vehicles the next time they are in the shop for maintenance or repairs, and prior to delivery. Model E36 M3 with side airbags (option 260) Situation The side airbag system is sensitive to certain non-crash impacts such as contacting large potholes or curbs at substantial speed. This could cause the side airbag of the vehicle to deploy without an actual side crash or impact severe enough to cause significant visual damage to the vehicle. Unexpected deployment of the side airbags could cause serious or fatal injury if the occupant's head is resting near any side airbag and could temporarily (or momentarily) distract the driver from controlling the vehicle. Depending on traffic conditions, and the driver's reaction, this inadvertent deployment could cause a crash and/or personal injury. The Customer Recall letter is attached. AFFECTED VEHICLES E36 M3 (Convertible, 4 door, and 2 door) with side airbags - option 260 produced from 11/96 up to 8/99 In order to determine if a specific vehicle is affected by this Recall, it will be necessary to utilize the "Service Menu" of the DCS (Dealer Communication System). Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action. The Chassis Number Ranges listed below are only for informational purposes and are not to be considered as the only deciding factor. Model Chassis Number Range M3 Convertible EC42001-EC44295 M3 A Convertible EC38005-EC41999 EC46000-EC46081 M3 4 door EE05508-EE09665 M3 A 4 door EE10902-EE14165 M3 2 door EY77350-EY84011 Under the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1966, as amended, if there is a recall campaign, dealers must assure that all new vehicles and new items of replacement equipment are free of safety defects and comply with all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards at the time of delivery to the consumer. This means that dealers may not deliver new motor vehicles or new items of replacement equipment unless the safety defect or noncompliance has been remedied before delivery. CORRECTION Recode the MRS module with the updated software in CD20.0. (Coding version C20.0). Some customers may express concern about driving their car to your Service Department for this repair. To handle cases of this nature when necessary, BMW will allow (1) for towing affected vehicles to the nearest BMW Center through the Roadside Assistance system to have the procedure performed, or (2) for sending a technician to the customer's residence in those cases where this would be more economical than towing. If towing the customer's car is necessary, please call Roadside Assistance at 1-800-332-4269 and make the arrangements on the customer's behalf. PROCEDURE CD 20.0 MUST be installed in the DIS/MoDic III. Refer to the installation instructions in SI 07 02 96 (9/99, attachment 1 and 2) 1. Important: If the "airbag warning" lamp is illuminated, the faults must be repaired/deleted before proceding with this recoding. 2. Connect diagnostic connector to the vehicle. 3. Turn the key on (to KL15). 4. Select "Coding/Program." 5. Select "ZCS Coding". Scroll right >. 6. "Coding by means of central coding code (ZCS) Version C20.0" is displayed. It is important that "Version C20.0" is displayed. C20.0 contains the updated MRS software. Scroll right >. 7. ZCS encoding can be overwritten by the modifications made by the CAR/KEY MEMORY program. They can be reset if necessary" is displayed. Scroll right >. 8. Select "4 E36". Scroll right >. 9. Select "1 Recoding". Scroll right >. 10. Select "19 AIRBAG". Scroll right >. 11. "AIRBAG has been selected. Select correct?" is displayed. Select "YES" 12. "AIRBAG Install control unit so that it works properly. Turn on ignition!" is displayed. Scroll right >. 13. "Start Automatic Coding" is displayed. Select "YES". 14. "AIRBAG Automatic coding active! Please wait!" is displayed. 15. When coding is complete, "AIRBAG The central coding code has not been changed! Coding Complete! Turn ignition off. Wait 10 seconds. Turn ignition on again and carry out functional check." 16. MRS coding is now complete. 17. Attach the label with # 259 punched out. LABEL INSTRUCTIONS This recall campaign has been assigned code number 259 After the vehicle has been checked, and corrected if necessary, obtain a label(SD 92- 120) and: a. emboss your BMW dealer warranty number in the middle of the label (1); b. punch out code number and, c. affix the label to the If the vehicle already has a label from a previous Service Action/Recall Campaign, affix the new label next to the old one. Do not affix one label on top of another one because a number from an underlying label could appear in the punched-out hole of the new label. WARRANTY INFORMATION Reimbursement for this recall will be provided through campaign entry without regard to vehicle age or mileage. Defect Code 00 65 37 01 00 Recoding airbag control unit Labor Operation: 00 52 010 Labor Allowance: 5 FRU January 2000 RECALL CAMPAIGN NO. 99V-063.001 Dear BMW Owner: This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. A"BMW AG has determined that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in certain 1997-1999 Model Year BMW M3 automobiles. Our records indicate that you are the owner of a potentially affected vehicle. DESCRIPTION OF DEFECT The defect involves the side airbag system of your car. The system is unduly sensitive to certain non-crash impacts, such as experienced when contacting large potholes or curbs at substantial speed. This could cause the side airbags of the vehicle to deploy without an actual side crash or impact severe enough to cause significant visible damage to the vehicle. Unexpected deployment of the side airbags could cause serious or fatal injury if the occupant's head is resting near any side airbag. Also, unexpected deployment could temporarily (or momentarily) distract the driver from controlling the vehicle and, depending on traffic conditions and the driver's reaction, result in a crash and/or personal injury. DESCRIPTION OF REPAIR The remedy will consist of recalibrating the central airbag control module to reduce sensitivity to these non-crash impacts. This modification will require approximately one hour and will be performed free of charge by your Authorized BMW center. Additional time will probably be required, depending on the BMW center's scheduling and processing. PRECAUTIONS 1. CONTACT YOUR AUTHORIZED BMW CENTER TO HAVE THE NECESSARY MODIFICATION PERFORMED ASSOON AS POSSIBLE. 2. Until the repair is performed, caution should be exercised when encountering rough roads, potholes, curbs, etc. In such conditions, proceed carefully, avoiding excessive speed and severe bumps. 3. All occupants should always be properly restrained (children in appropriate child restraint systems; larger children and adults using safety belts) and sitting upright. Never let an occupant's head rest near any side airbag. Do not lean towards or against a door with a side airbag. 4. Refer to the appropriate safety information in your Owner's Manual (see pages 50-52) and the BMW Safety Tips card. Observe the warnings contained in the airbag warning labels on your car. 5. If you are not the sole driver of your car, please advise all other drivers of these possible consequences. OTHER INFORMATION If you are no longer the owner of this vehicle, we would appreciate your furnishing us with the name and address of the new owner, using the enclosed return postage-paid card. Should you have any questions about this campaign, please contact your Authorized BMW center. We appreciate your confidence in our product, and we wish to do everything we can to retain your confidence. Should you need additional assistance, you may contact BMW Customer Relations at 1-800-831-1117. If the BMW center is unable to remedy the defect without charge or within a reasonable period of time, you may notify the Administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Washington, DC 20590, or call the toll-free Auto Safety Hotline at 1-800-424-9393 (Washington, DC area residents may call 202-366-0123). BMW Group, Inc." Cheers, Jim E. Jzy308@aol.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:54:56 EDT > From: Jzy308@aol.com > Subject: Side air-bag Recall > > Someone put the text of the TSB relating to side air-bag recall in the digest > a while ago. In my E36 M3 I ran over a large rock (head-on) that dented the > oilpan, tore out some wiring, and deployed the right side airbag: $3,300!! > Insurance paid most of it. While I had been told that the car had the air-bag > recall effected, since my problem was identical to those that dictated the > recall, I wondered: > 1. Was the recall really effected? > 2. Was it installed correctly? > 3. If yes to both above, was the recall sufficient to solve the problem? > > I gave a copy of what was in the digest to my service rep and asked if my > damage should not be covered under warranty. Since I have had no response, I > am ready to "do battle". But-I would very much like a copy of the TSB to be > forearmed . > Can anybody point me in the right direction? > Many thanks. > Carl Sewell > 98 M3/4 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************

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#6. LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Ron Katona
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:09:56 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: LTW Flywheel Install Questions Gonna have the AA 12 lb aluminum flywheel installed next week. Anything else I should upgrade while we have it opened up? -- Ron Katona

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#7. Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions I think Jim mentioned that you need to upgrade the clutch arm or fork or something like that.... This way, the release point is similar to stock, correct? Chester --- Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:09:56 -0400 > From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> > Subject: LTW Flywheel Install Questions > > Gonna have the AA 12 lb aluminum flywheel installed next week. Anything > else I should upgrade while we have it opened up? > -- > Ron Katona > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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#8. Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Lee, Peter 
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:02:05 -0400 From: "Lee, Peter " <plee@mlundy.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions Clutch & pressure plates perhaps? >>> Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> 09/18/00 01:14PM >>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:09:56 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: LTW Flywheel Install Questions Gonna have the AA 12 lb aluminum flywheel installed next week. Anything else I should upgrade while we have it opened up? -- Ron Katona ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************

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#9. Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions - from Ron Katona
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:32:54 -0400 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] LTW Flywheel Install Questions Oohh, ahhh, that has me thinkin'! I don't really care for the stock clutch setup anyway. Maybe this is the time to try some modifications? Which way will the release point go with the AA flywheel; towards the floor, or higher up? I'd like to get the clutch to release closer to the floor and also to have less total travel. The clutch pedal is too high compared to the brake making left foot braking difficult. Just using the clutch is a PITA when tightly strapped in with 5-points and a race seat because you have to lift your leg from the dead pedal to reach the higher plane of the stock clutch. I'd like the brake, clutch, and dead pedal to all be on the same plane. Any ideas? -- Ron Katona Chester Wong wrote: > > I think Jim mentioned that you need to upgrade the clutch arm or fork or > something like that.... This way, the release point is similar to stock, > correct? > > Chester > > --- Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:09:56 -0400 > > From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> > > Subject: LTW Flywheel Install Questions > > > > Gonna have the AA 12 lb aluminum flywheel installed next week. Anything > > else I should upgrade while we have it opened up? > > -- > > Ron Katona

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#10. Re: EBC brake pad noise - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:40:59 GMT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: EBC brake pad noise Ted, Replacing brake pads on an E36 M3 (and E34) is a very easy procedure. You can save $100 by doing it yourself. Replacing pads takes 10-15 minutes per wheel, and that includes dismounting and remounting the wheel. You need a minimal number of tools, and it's not a strenous procecure. In fact, the only strenuous procedure (which isn't required when just replacing pads) is breaking loose the 16mm bolts that hold the front caliper mounts to the hub assembly. These only need to be removed when you replace the rotors. Where are you located? If you're in the DC area, you can stop by and I'll show you how it's done. Good luck! -rb >From: Ted Telesky <TTelesky@compuserve.com> >To: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> >CC: e36m3@bmwmpower.com >Subject: Re: EBC brake pad noise >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 00:31:52 -0400 > >Ron, > >Thanks for the info. I did not put the brakes in myself, I had a mechanic >do it, but at the time I did ask if he but grease on the rear of the pads >and he said they used a Mercedes brake grease for that. Of course, I don't >know how much he put on. > >I have subsequently talked to EBC about the problem, and they will >exchange the pads for another set of greenstuff (or red stuff if >I pay the difference.) When I asked why I would put on another >set of greenstuff since they squeal so badly, he said that I may >have a set with "bad" compound. He did not say the new set >would not be "bad" compound either, so I would pay another >$100 to my mechanic to swap they out. He also said the redstuff >was not any quieter and again, no guarantees that I would not >get bad compound ones and would need to try another set >of they squeal. Sometimes I think the BMW factory guys seem >to know best... > >Anyway, thanks for the advice. If I try the green or red stuff gain, >I will ask my mechanic to really lube them up! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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