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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror 27.5k a heating element does not make. I'd strongly suggest that you're either measuring the wrong thing or your original mirror is defective. 1.8A@14V is around 25W, which sounds about right to melt ice and snow from something as big as a mirror. -Matt --- Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:33:50 GMT > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Euro Spec Mirror > > Jeff, > > Chester Wong managed the group purchase. The > replacement mirror is like the > mirror you have on the passenger side, except it > doesn't have the disclaimer > etched into it. I didn't replace the mirror on the > passenger side. Chester > was taking orders for both, and the passenger side > replacement didn't have > the disclaimer on it. > > The part number for the driver side mirror is 51 16 > 2 267 191. > > It's taking me awhile to get used to it, especially > since I drive another > car (E34 525iT) as a daily driver. It's a very > weird view through the > mirror, not something I've been used to viewing for > the 25 years that I've > been driving. I'm extra cautious and check twice > because I still don't > trust my judgement of the view. > > In reality, I don't believe that these mirrors are > used on the driver's side > of Euro M3s. Instead, I believe that they are used > on the _passenger_ side > of right-hand drive M3s. I think that a driver's > side mirror is always a > flat mirror. > > One strange thing about this mirror is that it > REALLY heats up compared to > the mirror on the passenger side. I'm not sure it > does this, unless my > stock mirrors really didn't heat up. > > I measured the resistance of the mirror's heating > elements and found that > the US mirror was 27.5k ohms, and the Euro mirror > was 7.7 ohms! > > Using Ohm's law for current, I=E/R > > US mirror draws 0.5 Amps (14/27500) > Euro mirror draws 1.8 Amps (14/7.7) > > Since the mirror circuit is fused at 10 Amps, it > shouldn't cause a problem. > However, I removed the mirror from my car and put > the original mirror back > in the car for now. > > -rb > > >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:52:29 -0700 > >From: Jeffrey Stowe <jstowe@cisco.com> > >Subject: Euro Spec Mirror > > > >Recently there was a discussion of a drivers side > euro spec mirror which > >was convex (??concave?? whatever) and helped reduce > the blind spot on the > >drivers side. I think there was even a group > purchase organized. Can > >someone provide me with the part number for this > mirror and a suggestion on > >where to order. The BOSS is most displeased with > this blind spot and has > >demanded a solution. If someone has another > solution which adresses the > >blind spot please let me know. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#2. underbody panel (air duct), one possible solution - from Adam Fila
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:35:17 -0400 From: "Adam Fila" <ylf@mindless.com> Subject: underbody panel (air duct), one possible solution Here is how I solved it: http://ylf.miesto.sk/panel/ Have patience with the pics (site is not that fast). I did this last summer, and the new reinforced panel has since taken some good parking curb hits. However each time I inspect it when the car is jacked up, it's as solid as on day 1, no sign of it ever coming off. The whole project took about 3 hours to complete, partly due to the temperature (113F on the OBC display, see the pic, I had to keep going inside the house to cool off every 10 minutes) and also lot of the time was spent cutting the damn aluminum with a crappy old hack saw. I could have saved an hour with the right tools. The resulting brackets also look accordingly (not the nicest looking parts) but they work really well, and that was the goal. -Adam Fila '95 M3
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#3. Re: [E36M3] underbody panel vs LTW splitter - from Jim Powell
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:39:59 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] underbody panel vs LTW splitter Hit a cone, lose a panel. Really. Jim Bora Akyol wrote: > > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:12:27 -0700 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] underbody panel vs LTW splitter > > Another question on this. Has anyone tried duct-taping the pieces together > during track events/autoXs etc. I believe that mine fell off during or right > after my last autoX. > > Bora > > jbergstrom wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:26:59 -0500 > > From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> > > Subject: underbody panel vs LTW splitter > > > > >>>>Dragging sound? Plastic piece hanging below the engine? Hmmm, never > > heard of this one. Not! Welcome to the club. It'll run ya about 85skins, > > and the suspected cause is driving fast. go figure. <<<< > > > > aaahhhh yes!!! the wonderful, plastic-clip-barely-held-on flimsy underbody > > panel! I am pretty sure it is supposed to create a low pressure area in > > front that provides some added downforce at higher speeds. If you scrape it > > on curbs or hit something against it the clips break or wear off and then > > when you come up to speed it will rip off. Otherwise, it should stay on. > > Some people have posted before about reinforcing the plastic tabs with bent > > aluminum sheet. > > > > However, this is all underkill. Really, this is just another reason > > everyone should quit messing around dropping 85 bucks here and there and > > just go out and buy the LTW splitter. It permanently solves the underbody > > panel problem. Of course, you then must learn to back into parking spaces > > and avoid any road incline of more than 5 degrees or speed bump higher than > > 3 inches. And you will also need the LTW rear wing with the spacers to > > balance out the added downforce. ;-) > > > > John > > '95 M3 (with splitter and wing, always having to take many, many detours to > > avoid damage) > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:03:38 GMT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror Oops! Sorry for the mis-calculation. -rb >From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> >To: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com>, "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:42:53 -0400 > >>I measured the resistance of the mirror's heating elements and found that >>the US mirror was 27.5k ohms, and the Euro mirror was 7.7 ohms! >> >>Using Ohm's law for current, I=E/R >> >>US mirror draws 0.5 Amps (14/27500) >>Euro mirror draws 1.8 Amps (14/7.7) > >Actually, for the US mirror, 14/27500 = .0005 Amps = .5 mA (that's one-half >of a milli-amp) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#5. Vipers and fun... - from Chris Casey
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> Subject: Vipers and fun... Sean said: > ... it would be alot harder, and alot less > fun then taking an M3 through the same corner. Depends on your definition of "fun", I think. For those of us (read: me) who aren't super-skilled or super-experienced, getting a car sideways is a hoot. The Viper does this better than any car I've driven, and is fairly easy to get back in line with a little countersteering - just don't be stupid with the throttle. Chris - nowhere close to getting 95% of the performance out of my stock 99 M3, but enjoying some occasionial sideways motion. :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:32:09 GMT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror Well, Matt, considering that there are only two terminals on the back side of the mirror, to which two wires are attached, it's pretty hard to incorrectly measure the wrong thing. So, yes, perhaps I have a defective original mirror. But two? Both original mirrors measure the same resistance, and neither one gets very warm when the car is running. -rb >From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> >To: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com>, E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:22:59 -0700 (PDT) > >27.5k a heating element does not make. I'd strongly >suggest that you're either measuring the wrong thing >or your original mirror is defective. 1.8A@14V is >around 25W, which sounds about right to melt ice and >snow from something as big as a mirror. > >-Matt _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#7. weight savings in LTW - from jbergstrom
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:36:36 -0500 From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> Subject: weight savings in LTW >>>>1. Cloth seats vs. leather. Don't know how much this saves but my guess is about ~80lbs 2. No AC unit saves ~40lbs 3. Aluminum doors ~ 70lbs 4. Less insulation ~15lbs 5. No sunroof ~10lbs 6. No radio ~2lbs 7. Carbon fiber trim ~2lbs - mostly cosmetic.<<<< I think Ben Liaw weighed both LTW cloth seats and standard leather seats at one time. The difference was less than 10 lbs per seat (??). Also, the LTW forged rims are about 2-3 lbs lighter per corner for a total savings around 10 lbs. Also, I think there is no tool kit in the trunk (?). John '95 M3
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#8. FS: '98 M3/2 - from LCauble102@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:21:56 EDT From: LCauble102@aol.com Subject: FS: '98 M3/2 Red coupe with mulberry interior. Garaged and pampered. Fewer than 18,000 miles. Pwr sunroof, cruise, OBC, Harman-Kardon, CD changer, keyless entry alarm, heated front seats, M-contour wheels. $35,900. Car in Maryland. (410) 461-8439 Larry
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror Okay so they were measured correctly ;-). I'd say that yes, they are probably defective. Or maybe the US heated mirrors aren't designed to really melt ice and snow. -Matt --- Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:32:09 GMT > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror > > Well, Matt, considering that there are only two > terminals on the back side > of the mirror, to which two wires are attached, it's > pretty hard to > incorrectly measure the wrong thing. > > So, yes, perhaps I have a defective original mirror. > But two? Both > original mirrors measure the same resistance, and > neither one gets very warm > when the car is running. > > -rb > > >From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > >To: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com>, E36M3 > <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro Spec Mirror > >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:22:59 -0700 (PDT) > > > >27.5k a heating element does not make. I'd > strongly > >suggest that you're either measuring the wrong > thing > >or your original mirror is defective. 1.8A@14V is > >around 25W, which sounds about right to melt ice > and > >snow from something as big as a mirror. > > > >-Matt > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#10. [E36M3] RE: My Opinion - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> Subject: [E36M3] RE: My Opinion Captain Hags wrote: >>Well soooooorrrrryyyyy! No worries. Heh...heh...never thought so many M3 people liked the Viper so much did ya? :-) BTW in two weeks I get to again run these snakes ragged at an autox school set up for the Daimler-Chrysler development group of these cars. I wouldn't trade this day for anything, it is so much fun to have that much torque in a car. Cone mashing with these beasts is a hoot! I wonder if BMW allows their engineers to have at it with their M3's? I heard a certain LTW owner that developed a racing game for Microsoft who sent all his team to a driver's school. Makes sense to me. :-) Carlos Motor City Chapter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/