E36M3 #580

Friday, September 29, 2000 16:35:51

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#1. Best E36 M3 Upgrade - from Robert Biggs
#2. Re: [E36M3] Roll Bar High Impact Foam - from Peter H Reinhart
#3. Best M3 upgrade - from Burgess, Kim L
#4. Re: Staying on topic / best mods - from Joe Dyer
#5. Best M3 upgrade - from Burgess, Kim L
#6. Best upgrades - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] Best M3 upgrade - from Jim Wilcox
#8. Re: Best M3 upgrade - from Gleb Arshinov
#9. Re: Best M3 upgrade - from Gleb Arshinov
#10. Re: Vipers and fun... - from Gleb Arshinov

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#1. Best E36 M3 Upgrade - from Robert Biggs
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:26:14 -0500 From: "Robert Biggs" <parm3@home.com> Subject: Best E36 M3 Upgrade If I could have but one upgrade to my daily driver car, it would be the JimC chip. If I could have but one upgrade for a car that would also be driven periodically on the track, it would be my Simpson five point harness. Bob Biggs

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Roll Bar High Impact Foam - from Peter H Reinhart
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:23:09 -0400 From: Peter H Reinhart <reinhart@neuro.duke.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Roll Bar High Impact Foam >At 03:05 PM 9/29/00 -0500, Daniel Smith wrote: >I'm dredging up an old subject.. Susie's request for best mods >reminded me of my TC Kline rollbar, which is not padded.... > >Anyone pad their TC Kline bar? Happen to know the measurements, >or at least how much padding to order? (yes, I want to protect >the passenger too :-) Did some research on this a while ago. Learned more about roll bar foam than I ever wanted to know. The final upshot is there are 2 sorts of foam - standard polyethylene or neoprene foam in many colors (yes, even in gray) sold by numerous mail order places, and high density foam sold predominantly by NASCAR suppliers. According to a number of sources as well as a scientific study "....analysis of the impact data shows that the majority of products used as roll cage protective padding have little or no energy absorbing capabilities.... " (see http://www.stockcarracing.com/tech/barpad.html <http://www.stockcarracing.com/tech/barpad.html> ) Wow! So much for the roll bar material I see in most cars. Neither open-cell nor closed-cell neoprene or polyethylene foam offers much protection for your head or helmet. Whereas your helmet is the first line of defense as the severity of the impact increases, roll bar padding becomes essential. To cushion the G-forces tending to push your brain into your skull, the padding needs to be thick enough, and be made of the right material. Spent a long time chatting with Matt Ray at Brotherton Supply Co Inc. (BSCI; they supply the shops that supply NASCAR and played a role in setting up the SFI 45.1 specifications), who convinced me that roll bar material needs to be high density foam that has passed SFI 45.1 specifications. The SFI Foundation, Inc. (SFI; http://www.sfifoundation.com/ <http://www.sfifoundation.com/> ) is a non-profit organization established to issue and administer standards for specialty/performance automotive and racing equipment. The SFI roll bar padding test procedure is similar to the test used for evaluating crash helmets. The testing consists of three successive impacts by an 11-pound aluminum DOT headform traveling at 14.5 feet per second (approx. 10 m.p.h.), all at the same point on the padding. To pass the test, the acceleration may not exceed 200 G's for the first impact and 250 G's for the following two impacts. In addition, the calculated Gadd Severity Index can not exceed 1500 for any of the impacts (above 1500 leads to head trauma). Since many of the energy-absorbing polyurethane foams decrease in firmness with increasing temperature, the roll bar padding materials are required to pass the impact tests at 70°F and at 110°F. Finally, the materials are required to self-extinguish within 10 seconds following exposure to an open propane flame, and to do so without melting or dripping. According to SFI president Arnie Kuhns, none of the popular offset-center roll bar pads made from polyethylene foam stand a chance of passing the tests. That also means they will not offer you much protection. If they won’t pass a 10 m.p.h. test how well will they do when going significantly faster….? A few Mail Order Houses that carry SFI 45.1 padding including Summit Racing ( http://store.summitracing.com <http://store.summitracing.com/> ), and IOPort Racing ( <http://www.ioportracing.com/padding.htm> http://www.ioportracing.com/padding. htm <http://www.ioportracing.com/padding.htm> ). I’m sure there are others. Some of the NASCAR suppliers include RDI (704-892-8688), H-R (704-597-1373), and BSR (704-795-0901). Cheers, Peter Reinhart

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#3. Best M3 upgrade - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:27:09 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <Kim.Burgess@PSS.Boeing.com> Subject: Best M3 upgrade 1) Drivers school 2) Tire pressure gauge 3) X-brace KLBurgess 99///M3/2

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#4. Re: Staying on topic / best mods - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:33:42 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: Staying on topic / best mods OK, Jim Powell reminded me I should enter the "Mods" contest -- Since my car came into my possession with the full Stage 3 Dinan upgrade - complete suspension, and engine supercharged - and since cost was not a contest rule, my vote goes for the complete $17,000 Dinan integrated, CARB approved, package. Udden,udden! Wanna race? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@home.com> > And guys with Dinan stuff! Hi 'Ho'! > > J'A'P > > > Joe Dyer wrote: > > Suzy, > > > > My suggestion: Dump the guys who want to compare their M3 with a Viper! > > > > Joe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Kraft" <suekraft@mindspring.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:15 AM > > Subject: [E36M3] Staying on topic > > > > > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:03:34 -0500 > > > From: Sue Kraft <suekraft@mindspring.com> > > > Subject: Staying on topic > > > > > > I am really getting tired of asking people to stay on topic. Perhaps it > > > is time to start thinning out the herd, so to speak. This is a private > > > mailing list, which means nobody has the right to be here, you are all > > > invited guests. I hate to be so blunt, but those of you who repeatedly > > > break the rule of staying on topic are ruining this list, and are no > > > longer going to be tolerated. Any suggestions as to who should be > > > removed would be very much appreciated. > > > > > > Suzy > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* >

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#5. Best M3 upgrade - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:33:16 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <Kim.Burgess@PSS.Boeing.com> Subject: Best M3 upgrade How about the "BEST for MY '95" and the "BEST for MY '96-'99"? Drivers school KLBurgess 99///M3/2

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#6. Best upgrades - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:39:32 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Best upgrades My best upgrade hands down money no object as applied to the E36 M3 was buying Bob Stommel's 1995 M3 LTW. The best upgrade by bang for the buck for the E36M3 is the JimC chip/EuroHFM/CAIS system. Marc Edwards 1995 M3 LTW

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Best M3 upgrade - from Jim Wilcox
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:59:56 -0500 From: "Jim Wilcox" <JimShadow1@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best M3 upgrade ECIS Euro Intake, without a doubt!!! JIM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Kraft" <suekraft@mindspring.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: [E36M3] Best M3 upgrade > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:19:33 -0500 > From: Sue Kraft <suekraft@mindspring.com> > Subject: Best M3 upgrade > > I thought it might be fun for everyone to cast a vote as to what they > think is the best upgrade or modification they have done to their cars. > If someone would like to keep a tally of votes, I'll post the winner on > bmwmpower. I had a tough time deciding between my ACS short shifter or > Jim C intake, but I think I'd have to go with the Jim C intake. > So what do the rest of you think? > > Suzy > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#8. Re: Best M3 upgrade - from Gleb Arshinov
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Date: 29 Sep 2000 14:07:43 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <gleb@barsook.com> Subject: Re: Best M3 upgrade >>>>> "Sue" == Sue Kraft <suekraft@mindspring.com> writes: Sue> I thought it might be fun for everyone to cast a vote as to Sue> what they think is the best upgrade or modification they have Sue> done to their cars. After V1, it must cargo net for the trunk -- $80 minus CCA discount. Lets you drive hard with stuff in your trunk. Gleb

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#9. Re: Best M3 upgrade - from Gleb Arshinov
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Date: 29 Sep 2000 14:07:55 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <gleb@barsook.com> Subject: Re: Best M3 upgrade >>>>> "Sue" == Sue Kraft <suekraft@mindspring.com> writes: Sue> I thought it might be fun for everyone to cast a vote as to Sue> what they think is the best upgrade or modification they have Sue> done to their cars. After V1, it must be cargo net for the trunk -- $80 minus CCA discount. Lets you drive hard with stuff in your trunk. Gleb

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#10. Re: Vipers and fun... - from Gleb Arshinov
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Date: 29 Sep 2000 14:17:30 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <gleb@barsook.com> Subject: Re: Vipers and fun... >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> writes: >> ... it would be alot harder, and alot less fun then taking an >> M3 through the same corner. Chris> Depends on your definition of "fun", I think. For those of Chris> us (read: me) who aren't super-skilled or Chris> super-experienced, getting a car sideways is a hoot. The Chris> Viper does this better than any car I've driven, and is Chris> fairly easy to get back in line with a little Chris> countersteering - just don't be stupid with the throttle. Hmm, that's sure was not my experience. I found it must harder to feel the limit and recover in Viper than even Formula Fords that I ran the same day in Skip Barber. But yuh, sideways is good. Gleb

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