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#1. Disgusted - from Jason Blattberg
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:08:33 -0700 From: Jason Blattberg <blattberg@3bridge.com> Subject: Disgusted That is the most despicable comment I have ever heard. Whining about an unwarranted pull-over and a ticket is one thing but pulling up a chair while a cop gets shot? How could you say such a thing?!?! You should be ashamed. Screw the f-ing flame suit, I could care less what you or anyone else has to say. Jason -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 05:45:07 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pulled over for my SS exhaust!! And cops wonder why they are hated? I swear if I saw one getting shot, I'd pull up a lawn chair and enjoy the show. Jim
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#2. Re: [E36M3] PTG E46 troubles - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:07:01 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] PTG E46 troubles How heavy is the V8 compared to the I6. The last thing that I want would be more weight in the nose of the car. The E46 M3 is heavy enough already. Bora jbergstrom wrote: > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:57:36 -0500 > From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> > Subject: PTG E46 troubles > > >>>>As for the PTG M3's, neither one finished. The #7 with Stuck, Said and > van Overbeek was briefly leading the class, and was running in 3rd for a > while. Unfortunately they had to make several lengthy service stops, and > dropped down to 5th. Finally towards the end of the race, they lost a > driveshaft (yet again) which then tore an oil line in the braking zone to 10 > <<<< > > Seems like ever since they moved to the E46 chassis and tried to pump > another 40hp out of the engine, they've been having too many mechanical > troubles. The engine probably is outdated compared to the new 911's > (everything I've read suggest that PTG is happy with the handling of the new > car, but is outpowered by the Porsches) and hopefully this will bode well > for a push to re-design a more potent and reliable aluminum I6 or drop in > some version of that sweet V8 we're all hoping for . . . > > <pure speculation> > > John > '95 M3 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************
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#3. Petit Le Mans - from Chris Casey
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> Subject: Petit Le Mans > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> > Subject: Petit Le Mans > The LMRs? One got tangled up somehow away from > where we were, and we didn't hear what happened, > but we did see a mangled hulk come back to the > paddock on a flatbed. This one did a backwards somersault while cresting a hill behind the Olive Garden car, like the Porsches at the same place a few years ago and the Mercedes of last year's Le Mans. Saw it (time and time again) on Speedvision. The driver, Auberlin, unstrapped himself and climbed out a little shaken but uninjured. > So that leaves us with ONE BMW left in the whole > shootin match. Well, fortune seemed to glimmer on > at least one of our cars as it was in second overall > and in class behind the #77 Audi (yellow one) that > has been whipping everybody all year with about 18 > laps to go when he came by without a rear spoiler! > Didn't hear the story, but he pitted and didn't come > by for a few minutes. Pretty sure he ended up in > second overall and in LMP class, although we were > pretty far from the podium at the end of the race. Unfortunately, no. The second one spun, I'm guessing into a wall, which caused extensive damage to the rear. When they pulled into the pit, they had to disassemble quite a bit of the back of the car before they put on a new wing. They eventually finished 5th. I agree, though, that it's a great series to go to. The noise is insane! I saw the one at Sears and I'm trying to get down to Laguna Seca for the next one. Not sure if I'll make it, though. -Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#4. Re: UUC Short Shifter - from Jim.Millet@intermec.com
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:11:57 -0700 From: Jim.Millet@intermec.com Subject: Re: UUC Short Shifter Ron Buchalski wrote: <<There was some bashing of the UUC SS kit recently (in some 'Worst Upgrade' responses), so I wanted to go on record to say that I've had the UUC Competition Kit (with ERK) on my car for over one year now, and have had nothing but great experiences with it.>> I'll second Ron's vote. I've had the UUC SS kit with ERK installed for over two years and it works great. In fact my set up is pre-UUC from back in the days when Ben was simply bending the M Roadster shift levers sent to him by early adopters like me. I first installed the bent shift lever and things were real notchy. A few months later after UUC was formally established I bought the ERK. At that time there was no mention of grinding away the carrier. I simply installed the UUC from the top side without removing the carrier assembly. I got three out of four set screws in and after dropping the fourth on the ground several times never found it again. I've been shifting with three set screws ever since. BTW, Ben did send me a couple of replacement set screws but I'm too lazy to tear everything apart to install the fourth screw. I've since installed several ERKs with carriers removed from the car and observed that one set screw on each side is sufficient to hold the ERK secure. I've never experienced any problem shifting into reverse or fifth gear and my carrier has never been touched with a Dremel. My situation may be unique, however, because I've since helped others install UUC SS kits with the ERK and the carrier grinding proved essential to smooth shifting into reverse. In one case we ground down the carrier but didn't quite remove the entire lip. The shifter would not go into reverse. Out came the carrier again for more lip grinding and now everything works fine. Different strokes for different folks. I voted for the Conforti chip as the best upgrade, but I'd rank the UUC SS (fka BL/SS) a very close second. Jim Millet 1995 M3, Hellrot, Sharked, BL/SS'd, ERK'd, and more.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Worst M3 upgrade? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:23:59 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Worst M3 upgrade? >Any upgrades you regret and wouldn't do over again? The only thing I >can think of is the ECIS intake :-) > >Suzy way worse then that is buying the dinan "hi-flow airbox". which is just the euro airbox. which might give you a SMALL bit of power boost, but for $350 (or whatever huge amount it costs) it's not worth it. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#6. PTG cars... - from Jeremy.Thissell@USPTO.GOV
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:27:50 -0400 From: Jeremy.Thissell@USPTO.GOV Subject: PTG cars... I posted this on the bimmer.org MB earlier and have yet to get a response. After reading the ALMS talk here, I figured I'd introduce the topic here and see what kind (if any) responses I get back. I was just doing a bit of research on the PTG cars vs. the Porsche GT3R's that both run in ALMS. Now all season, the BMW's have been bitching about how the Porsche's have a bigger stronger engine and just blow them away on the straightaways. BUT...I just read that the M3's actually have MORE hp and torque than the 911's. Here is the pertinant data: PTG E46 M3's: 420 hp @ 8200 rpm 300 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm 911 GT3R: 410 hp @ 8200 rpm 280 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm My question is, what's the complaining for if the Bimmers actually have more power? Now since the Porsches all DO walk away from the BMW's in ALMS in long straightaways, there must be a reason for this despite PTG's claimed higher power figures. The Porsche website said that the GT3 R's can rev up to 8500 rpm, whereas I believe the M3's can only hit 8200. Plus I think it's safe to say that the 911's have an aerodynamic advantage when the speedo hits triple digits. Are these two things enough to create the seemingly vast difference in straightaway accel/speeds between the two cars? BMW complains all the time about how the Porsches have a 3.6L motor vs. the 3.2L in the M3, but if the PTG cars actually have MORE power what's the problem? -Jeremy Jeremy Thissell Patent Examiner Art Unit 3763 US Patent Office
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#7. Re: [E36M3] PTG cars... - from Michael Ting
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:39:29 -0500 From: "Michael Ting" <lupin@purdue.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] PTG cars... Jeremy said: > BMW complains all the time about how the Porsches have a 3.6L motor vs. the > 3.2L in the M3, but if the PTG cars actually have MORE power what's the > problem? > That's interesting, cause I've never thought that the BMW will have more power than the Porsche, but I've never really checked either. Anyway, John started this thread mentioning how the E46 PTG M3s have too many mechanical problems. That makes sense. More output from a smaller engine. My question is: what's the weight limit for these cars?? Instead of using a V8, further weight reduction would clearly be a better solution. (If possible) Furthermore, I think the Porsches also has an advantage in weight. The E46 M3 will be ~3400lbs. I'm not sure about the exact weight of a road version GT3, but I expect ~3000 lbs. Looking at the road car figures, I think we can expect about the same weight reduction on the race cars. Michael Ting --------------------
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#8. weight of V8? - from jbergstrom
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:47:48 -0500 From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> Subject: weight of V8? >>>How heavy is the V8 compared to the I6. The last thing that I want would be more weight in the nose of the car. The E46 M3 is heavy enough already.<<< Same weight as our current I6 because it uses more aluminum. Plus, it's shorter, allowing to sit back further in the engine bay which helps move some weight distribution to the rear. At least, this is what I read when Hartge did there 4.7L V8 conversion of an E36 M3. I looked on Hartge's site, but only saw info on a new 5.0L V8 conversion of an E46, and there was no data on the engine weight. Anyone out there have an extra I6 and V8 engine lying around that they could weigh for us? John '95 M3
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#9. Best M3 upgrade - from Stan Shaw III
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:08:04 -0400 From: "Stan Shaw III" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Best M3 upgrade I installed all my '96 M3 Lux upgrades this year: Worst Upgrade: UUC Clutch Stop My wife complains when she drives the car because the top part falls off. As stated elsewhere in this forum UUC did not offer to resolve the problem. Best Upgrade for the street: UUC short shifter. I followed the directions, and it has been a pleasure since. Best Upgrade for less than $250: X brace I was surprised how much flex the car had before this upgrade! Best Upgrade for the track: Track time for the driver to improve skills. Based on my experience with my 928, I suspect the best upgrade for the track might be a track alignment to get enough camber to defeat understeer. Regards, Stan Shaw Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0407 Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net http://www.excell.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:15 PM Subject: [E36M3] E36M3 #587 > This digest contains the following messages: > > 1. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter > by: Andy Korczynski <Andy@casskor.com> > 2. Re: Aluminum accelerator pedal cover > by: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> > 3. Worst upgrade/Bad Vendor > by: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> > 4. Best M3 upgrade > by: <vincent.a.leo@us.arthurandersen.com> > 5. FS: Snow tires in Chicago area > by: Scott <whosez@hotmail.com> > 6. Re: Petit Le Mans > by: Paul England <ettsn@mindspring.com> > 7. Re: [E36M3] converting to studs > by: twisty M3 <twistym3@hotmail.com> > 8. Best M3 upgrade > by: <shane.a.kleinpeter@ac.com> > 9. Re: Parts CD's > by: <RonStygar@aol.com> > 10. PTG E46 troubles > by: jbergstrom <john@intellectsys.com> > > -------------------- 1 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:00:23 -0500 > From: Andy Korczynski <Andy@casskor.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter > > Just for the record I wasn't trying to BASH anyone for the hell of it. I > was just letting everyone know what my experiences were with this product. > I also grinded the carrier and never had trouble engaging any gears, but the > ERK just never wanted to stay attached to the carrier and UUC's answer to > that was "well you must have put it in wrong since its installed on 1000's > of cars and its working fine." I don't doubt that the shifter works great > for you and probably many others, but I wanted to point out to potential > customers that the arrogance level of UUC comes into play when you have a > problem because their attitude dictates that since their products are > superior there must be something wrong with you. Maybe the type of carrier > that I have on my car is softer then most, maybe I got some defective > screws, who knows. But what I do know is that UUC failed to correct the > problem, blaming me for improper installation. Also, you may recall that > they had problems with their stop clutch. Someone else mentioned this > already, but it seems like UUC uses US as guinnea pigs for the first round > of a product release. We are the test bed, and when the product fails, they > upgrade and leave the initial testers in the dust. Ok so now you can say I > officialy have BASHED UUC and I'm not gonna hide under a rock. > > Andy K. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:25 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter > > > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 04:16:21 GMT > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: UUC Short Shifter > > There was some bashing of the UUC SS kit recently (in some 'Worst Upgrade' > responses), so I wanted to go on record to say that I've had the UUC > Competition Kit (with ERK) on my car for over one year now, and have had > nothing but great experiences with it. That is, after the first week or so, > > while it got broken in. After it was first installed, it felt fairly stiff, > > and I was wondering if I made a mistake by installing this mod. Once it had > > a few weeks of use, it smoothed out to the point that it feels as smooth as > a factory system. > > The instructions that I followed recommended grinding away the lip inside > the carrier, which was accomplished with a metal file. I've never had any > problems engaging reverse or fifth gear, and the ERK screws have never > loosened. > > Overall, and EXCELLENT upgrade. > > -rb > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > > > -------------------- 2 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:19:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Aluminum accelerator pedal cover > > >Has anyone on the list found a source for an aluminum (or other > >material) cover for the accelerator in the E36 M3. > > Marc, > > John Skaggs sells a heel-n-toe aluminum pedal cover by itself. It is > $66 including shipping. Otherwise buy all three regular ones (w/o > having the heel/toe pedal) keep the accelerator cover and I'll buy the > brake and clutch cover from you. :-) > > Carlos > Motor City Chapter > E30 M3 w/Skaggs h/t pedal cover. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Carlos Lopez <clopez95m3@yahoo.com> > Subject: Worst upgrade/Bad Vendor > > Yay, we get to trash upgrades huh? > > OK here's mine, (1) Euro airbox (makes a good target for shooting paper > baskets), (2) Buying a Euro snorkel and brake duct + K&N filter from > Korman. Talk about getting ripped off! $160 for their "ram air kit" > back when I bought mine. > > Bad Vendors I'll never buy from: > (1) Korman > (2) Mesa Performance: for selling me a counterfeit Conforti chip. > > Carlos > Motor City Chapter > 91 M3 > x95 M3 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:21:13 -0500 > From: vincent.a.leo@us.arthurandersen.com > Subject: Best M3 upgrade > > > > As to Suzy's best upgrade question. My response is driver's schools/track time. > > I have 15 track days so far this year and have 4 more scheduled. I have also > had 8 days during the past 2 years. With all the track time this year, I have > picked up a significant amount of speed and truly believe track time is the best > upgrade. > > Don't get me wrong, I also have a long list of upgrades (too many to list) and I > really enjoy my car with them - some to improve performance, some are really > just "eye/ear candy". I also think most upgrades do improve the car, but best > bang for the buck is track time. > > Vince > 99 M3 > > *******************Internet Email Confidentiality Footer******************* > > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you > are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of > the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. > In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by > reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to > Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other > information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my > firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. > > > > > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:37:03 CDT > From: "Scott" <whosez@hotmail.com> > Subject: FS: Snow tires in Chicago area > > Will be driving second car this winter and can hopefully pass these on to > someone needy. > > 16" Mille Miglia Spyder wheels with 225/55 Michelin Blizzak tires. Put > maybe 8000 miles on tires and have about 1/2" tread left and wheels are in > good condition. Will fit any E36, but more importantly will clear brake > rotors on an M3 (few 16" wheels will). Price $550 obo. Prefer to sell > local as shipping costs could be significant. Please reply privately to > whosez@hotmail.com. Thanks! > > -Scott > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:05:31 -0400 > From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> > Subject: Re: Petit Le Mans > > Thanks for the clarification. Next year I won't forget my scanner! > > > Actually, the first LMR with Auberlen did the by now infamous backflip > into > > the air (much like the Porsche did 2 years ago at the first Petit Le Mans, > > I heard about that later yesterday (after my post) from another buddy who > saw it. Ouch! You should've seen the smoking hulk on the flatbed when it > came into the pits. We were down near it when it came in. Total loss. > > > The second LMR with Mueller at the wheel spun on it's own about an hour > > before the end, and went back-first into a tirewall, ripping off the rear > > wing. They lost about 10 laps while fixing the damage, and also the 2nd > > place. They finished 5th behind both Audi's and Panozes. > > That explains seeing it come by without a wing! We didn't catch a > leaderboard for a while after that, so I didn't realize he'd lost 2nd. > Bummer. > > > casualty was the Aspen Knolls GT3-R driven by Wagner, Lewis and > Mazzuoccola > > (they used to race E36 M3's in the past) which was running in 3rd place, > but > > had a big off into the wall braking into 10 in the oil and totaled the > car. > > Saw that accident. Right after we saw the PTG car coming over the hill > smoking we went to the other side of the bridge to see about 80% of a GT3R > sliding into the gravel. Ugly! The whole right front was gone. > > > All in all, it was a very exciting race, but not a good day for BMW at > all. > > Agreed! I still had a helluva good time! Laguna Seca is coming up in a few > weeks. Maybe I need to plan a trip... > > -Paul > > > > > -------------------- 7 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:25:24 PDT > From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] converting to studs > > A friend recently did this conversion and wrote about it... Hope this has > most of the answers you're looking for: > > http://geocities.com/bmwpm3/studs.htm > > Jonathan L. > > > >From: "Kit Wetzler" > > > > > >I *hate* wheel bolts. Whoever invented them should be smashed such that > >they would fit THROUGH the holes in the wheels that they're trying to > >protect. > > > >:) Ok, got that off my chest. > > > >What do I need to do to convert to studs? Does anyone sell studs designed > >specifically for that? I'd like to be able to run 17mm head lug nuts, so > >that I can still use the stock tools in an emergency. Let me know, thanks > >list! > > > >... > > > > -kit, buttonwillow bound! > > 97 M3/4 > > http://www.mindspring.com/~kitwetzler > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:27:53 -0400 > From: shane.a.kleinpeter@ac.com > Subject: Best M3 upgrade > > > I have not seen anybody mention this yet so I will throw it into the mix. > My best upgrade, hands down, has been the BimmerWorld brake ducts for my M3 > which really only sees track duty, despite the fact that it's a Lux. > Before putting in the ducts I was warping rotors all the time at the track. > Have not warped a rotor since installing the ducts (which remove easily > after a day at the track) and am enjoying the $$ saved on rotors for other > upgrades. > > Shane Kleinpeter > Tarheel Chapter > '96 M3 > '88 535is > > > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:35:42 EDT > From: RonStygar@aol.com > Subject: Re: Parts CD's > > You can purchase BMW repair info, CD's, hardcopy etc. from Central Letter > Shop, 310 Fairfield Road, Fairfield, NJ 07004. > FAX order form 1-877-695-0079 > Voice order 1-800-695-0079 > Toll 1-973-808-9595 > You can call and ask for their twenty page list of BMW stuff. I've uploaded > this list and the order form to Dale's image page. Connect to: > http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/ > and check out bmwinfo1 > 21.jpg. The CD's are shown in bmwinfo7 > 10.jpg > The order form is bmwinfo1.jpg. > > Ron@unofficialbmw.com FLY BMW Marlborough, CT > www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html > > > > > > > > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:57:36 -0500 > From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> > Subject: PTG E46 troubles > > >>>>As for the PTG M3's, neither one finished. The #7 with Stuck, Said and > van Overbeek was briefly leading the class, and was running in 3rd for a > while. Unfortunately they had to make several lengthy service stops, and > dropped down to 5th. Finally towards the end of the race, they lost a > driveshaft (yet again) which then tore an oil line in the braking zone to 10 > <<<< > > Seems like ever since they moved to the E46 chassis and tried to pump > another 40hp out of the engine, they've been having too many mechanical > troubles. The engine probably is outdated compared to the new 911's > (everything I've read suggest that PTG is happy with the handling of the new > car, but is outpowered by the Porsches) and hopefully this will bode well > for a push to re-design a more potent and reliable aluminum I6 or drop in > some version of that sweet V8 we're all hoping for . . . > > <pure speculation> > > John > '95 M3 > > > > ************************************************************** > Digest Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************** >
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#10. Abnormal rear end behavior under power? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Abnormal rear end behavior under power? Hi Gang, I've noticed some weird behavior in my Stage 1 Turbo M3. Under hard acceleration the rear feels like it's going to break loose but I don't think that the wheels are slipping. It just feels like the geometry is changing due to the acceleration. Is this normal? Here are my alignment numbers: Front: Toe: Stock Camber: -2.0d Rear: Toe: Stock Camber: -1.75d I have Biltsteins and Eibachs. It also did this when I had H&R springs. Is there some bushing/bearing that could be wearing? How can I check? Thanks, Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/