E36M3 #593

Tuesday, October 03, 2000 09:46:56

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#1. more E46 GT3 hearsay - from jbergstrom
#2. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 - from Jim Powell
#3. RE: [E36M3] best/worst vendors? - from MDadgar@handspring.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 - from Adam Fila
#5. leave my lawn chair on topic... - from Mike Kasper
#6. ALMS Preview in San Jose - from Daniel Smith
#7. Re: [E36M3] ALMS Preview in San Jose - from Joe Dyer
#8. Urgent - Poor braking behavior - from Dimitris Y. Cobopoulos
#9. Re: E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 - from OLCHA@aol.com
#10. [E36M3] ASC Light? - from twisty M3

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#1. more E46 GT3 hearsay - from jbergstrom
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:53:24 -0500 From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> Subject: more E46 GT3 hearsay >>>Isn't the E46 supposed to be more aerodynamic than the E36?<<< I thought so . . . (?) But the new 996 is dramatically more aerodynamic than the 993. >>>And if the Porsches do well this year, won't the restictions that are placed on winning teams (more weight, narrower tires, etc.) in ALMS be reversed?<<< I believe there were some weight ballasts added to the E36 as well as a lower rev limit because they were so successful against the 993's. But with the new E46, there are already no restrictions because it is a new car. Again, this is what I've read, and I may be misremembering, someone correct me if I'm wrong. >>>For that matter, does anyone know the reason behind BMW sticking with 3.2L rather than bumping it to 3.4 or 3.6? Cost? Future V8 plans?<<< There were reliability issues with the 3.4 (?). Did not pass longevity tests, even for the street car. John '95 M3

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#2. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 - from Jim Powell
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:59:25 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 Drivers, even Stuck, aren't perfect every lap. If they were, it wouldn't be racing. We'd test the cars for acceleration and give the fastest one the race. I'm just saying that there are more possibilities than weight or HP for a snapshot result at that point in time. Jim Jason Bishop wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Jim Powell wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:59:09 -0700 > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 > > > > Its also possible that the P-Car exited the previous curve slightly > > faster. By the end of the straight..... > > > > Jim > > > > true. but stucky would have to really screwy the poochy. > > Jason

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#3. RE: [E36M3] best/worst vendors? - from MDadgar@handspring.com
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:34:57 -0700 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] best/worst vendors? Suzy wrote: > This may be getting a little off topic (bad list mistress!!) > but someone suggested a customer service poll of the best/worst > BMW vendors to go along with the best/worst mods for our M3. This is an excellent idea. My nomination: Steve D at the Ultimate Garage. Hands down the best customer service I've ever experienced. Anywhere. And killer pricing to boot. Honorable mention: Josh/Jim at Eurosport and Ben/Rob at UUC Motorwerks. I've just done way more business with Steve (yes, I own an E30 M3). - Mark '95 M3 '97 528i 5-spd '88 M3, Hennarot ---- Mark Dadgar - Product Manager, Accessories (650) 230-5037 voice - (650) 230-2100 fax mdadgar@handspring.com - Handspring, Inc. "wide awake on the edge of the world" - Marillion Check out Visor at www.handspring.com!

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#4. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 - from Adam Fila
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:58:29 -0400 From: "Adam Fila" <ylf@mindless.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:26:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 > > And if the Porsches do well this year, won't the > restictions that are placed on winning teams (more > weight, narrower tires, etc.) in ALMS be reversed? > (better for M3, worse for 911) This would seem to make > the BMW factory involvement next year even more > dramatic, if the team is allowed to run under fewer > restrictions. The restrictions you are talking about were part of the PSCR rules under which the E36 M3's raced. Starting this year, ALMS races exclusively under the ACO rules (ACO is the sanctioning body of Le Mans 24 Hours) The rules are based strictly on weight, displacement and engine type, and are the same for everybody. It is very unlikely that ACO would decide to use restrictions to equalize cars. ACO rules are very unique in that they are designed basically for a single race. This race is one of the premier automobile races in the world, and there will always be enough factories fielding cars attempting to get this prestigious win. This gives ACO a lot of power in determining the rules, as they do not have to be concerned with making the race close and more exciting. Le Mans has traditionally been a place for the factories to showcase latest most exotic technology where if you built a car to the maximum potential of the rules, you can dominate the competition, often for years until someone else steps up to challenge you. This is what the Le Mans fans come to see. Also, Don Panoz knows that BMW is not going anywhere, so there is no real pressure for him to try to lobby ACO to tinker with the rules. BMW would probably prefer to beat the Porsches on a level playing field as well. Being given a break might not be good for their image. Finally, even if BMW threatened to leave, it's unlikely ACO would kiss their ass with a rule change. Unlike Porsche, that has been there for decades supporting Le Mans and building privateer cars that fill Le Mans fields, BMW comes and goes as they please with small one-shot factory efforts (like the LMR in 98 and 99) -Adam Fila '95 M3

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#5. leave my lawn chair on topic... - from Mike Kasper
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:17:52 -0700 From: Mike Kasper <mkasper@pacifier.com> Subject: leave my lawn chair on topic... >>Alex writes: >> >>I think people that copy a whole previous list to the next list just to >>prove >>a pertinent point to what they are saying should be removed, or taught >>how to >>cut and paste. Whichever comes first.... > >Hey! I resemble that remark! And to further go off topic I don't think >I would ever want to be a member of any list that allowed me as a >member!! > >I agree with Alex, though. People who can't cut n' paste need to >be drug out back and slapped around a bit by Jim Powell... just >to teach them manners... 8-; > >Now, as for Powell kicking back on the lawn chair while public >servants are being shot at >or harassed, I wouldn't go near that with a 50' pole made by Audi >but I'll still buy Mssr. Powell a beer next time I'm in Sandy Eggo >visiting my Mom.... 8-; I hate that when you get sand on your >eggo... 8-( > >cheers, > >Mike >Washougal, WA. >'96 M3 - many mods

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#6. ALMS Preview in San Jose - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:24:18 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: ALMS Preview in San Jose Since there's talk about ALMS/E46 M3/Hans Stuck/etc... This is in my Laguna Seca flyer I got today (I'm going to ALMS in a couple of weeks): Mini Le Mans Of San Jose A free preview [mktg junk] will take place Wednesday, October 11, in San Jose, CA. At high noon, fans will have a chance to see race cars, meet drivers and watch the best in the ALMS and Trans-Am series perform display laps around Cesar Chavez Park in downtown San Jose. ---- So, whatever that means.. I imagine BMW LMR and M3's being there, as well as Audi. If they let them cut loose around a park, great! Daniel -- Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA

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#7. Re: [E36M3] ALMS Preview in San Jose - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:11:11 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ALMS Preview in San Jose Daniel, I went to this mini event in downtown San Jose last year. They actually blocked off the inside lane around the oval Caesar Chavez Park. They had the big Panoz there, the Ferrari, Porsches, and I got to chat with Van Overbeek before he blasted around the oval in the PTG M3. No BMW LMR there though. The sounds were great with the echoes off the tall buildings around the oval. Fun to watch. The demo lasted less than 20 minutes. No passing, only one lane used - they would just squirt from turn to turn about three car-lengths apart. Joe Dyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Smith" <dls@daniel.org> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: [E36M3] ALMS Preview in San Jose > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:24:18 -0700 > From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> > Subject: ALMS Preview in San Jose > > Mini Le Mans Of San Jose > > A free preview [mktg junk] will take place Wednesday, October 11, > in San Jose, CA. At high noon, fans will have a chance to see race > cars, meet drivers and watch the best in the ALMS and Trans-Am > series perform display laps around Cesar Chavez Park in downtown > San Jose. > > ---- > > So, whatever that means.. I imagine BMW LMR and M3's being there, > as well as Audi. If they let them cut loose around a park, great! > > Daniel > > -- > Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#8. Urgent - Poor braking behavior - from Dimitris Y. Cobopoulos
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:18:46 +0300 From: jimcob@iis.gr (Dimitris Y. Cobopoulos) Subject: Urgent - Poor braking behavior Dear fiends, My BMW M3 E36 suddenly has vert poor braking behavior. The car has new brake disks front (floating rotors) and rear, new GOODRIDGE brake lines and ATE blue racing brake fluid. Can you give me an explanation ? Do you think that there could be a damaged brake master cylinder ? In the anticipation of your feed-back I remain, Best Regards, Dimitris

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#9. Re: E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 - from OLCHA@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:12:45 EDT From: OLCHA@aol.com Subject: Re: E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 In a message dated 10/2/00 6:51:45 PM Central Daylight Time, e36m3@bmwmpower.com writes: << E46 M3 GT3 versus 911 >> _______________________________ Are BMW racing $$ spread too thin? They were dominant with the E36 two years ago. The 12 Cylinder LMP was hot but not any more, and now, they are kind of going backwards at the end of the season in F1. OR is it timing, luck? Thoughts? -Keith Olcha

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#10. [E36M3] ASC Light? - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:36:23 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] ASC Light? Unless it's raining, I generally make it a point to turn the ASC off (light on dashboard on) everytime I get in the car. Not because I want to burn out at every stoplight, but simply because if I get into any situations of lost traction, I find it easier to predict and control what the car will do if it's not fighting me with all the electronic gizmos. It is nice in the rain on slick MXX3s though. ;-) Anyway, to the point... As I left work yesterday, I hit the button but no light came on. I continued to push it a few times and still no light (by this time I lost track of what would be on or off). I'd give just enough gas to slightly lose traction with various button pushes but couldn't really tell if I was getting wheel hop or if the ASC was coming on (no flashing ASC obviously). This morning I got in the car to head to work and the same thing, no light. I left the button pushed once and half way to work, the light suddenly pops back on. Now the light works... Has anyone experienced this (mine's a '99M3)? Is it more likely a loose ASC connection somewhere or simply a lose light bulb? With my low tread and rain coming within a day or two, I didn't think it wise to waste rubber just to test the ASC in it's non-lighting phase to be sure it was working when it wasn't lit. Is this something simple I could check or is it best left to the professionals? Thanks, Jonathan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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