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#1. Re: [E36M3] Urgent - Poor braking behavior - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:52:39 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Urgent - Poor braking behavior When did you get the new rotors and lines installed? I recently had my front rotors and brake lines replaced also and I experienced a change in brake behavior. I found that it took some extra force to modulate the breaks but it only lasted about a week and half and I'm pretty sure it was just the rotors trying to "mate" with the pads. Mine still feel a little "soft" at first but I think I may have a bit of air in the lines. It's not very dramatic now though and they feel about 99% normal now. It's possible that either of these could be what you're experiencing but you'd probably be better off explaining the behavior you're experiencing so more experienced list members can chime in. Jonathan L. > >Dear fiends, > >My BMW M3 E36 suddenly has vert poor braking behavior. The car has new >brake disks front (floating rotors) and rear, new GOODRIDGE brake lines >and ATE blue racing brake fluid. >Can you give me an explanation ? Do you think that there could be a >damaged brake master cylinder ? > >In the anticipation of your feed-back I remain, > >Best Regards, >Dimitris > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#2. RE: Abnormal rear end behavior under power? - from Legerlotz, Alan
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:56:26 -0400 From: "Legerlotz, Alan" <alegerlotz@kronos.com> Subject: RE: Abnormal rear end behavior under power? Good luck trying to order these. I've been calling for over a week and nobody answers the phone at the number on the web site. I left a message LAST monday, as the recording requested, and I've yet to get a call back. I called another number yesterday and got a human, but had to leave a message again. 24 hours later, no call back. -Al >>It could be worn trailing arm bushings. ProParts/TC Kline makes a nice >>replacement piece: >> >>http://www.tcklineracing.com/OPC/monoball.html#anchor6639184 >> >>and JimP's installation: >> >>http://members.home.com/jsp90325i/RearBushing.html
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:22:10 GMT From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter Wow, Andy! Did you take a double dose on angry pills today? :-) All I did was present the opposite view, that I didn't have problems with my UUC SS installation, and it's still fine after one year. (Among other car repair tasks, I once f**ked up an upper strut mount on my E30 and had to pay for a tow truck to take it a shop for repairs, so I've had my share of botched "repairs"...) comments inline... >From: Andy Korczynski <Andy@casskor.com> >To: 'Ron Buchalski' <rbuchals@hotmail.com>, E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:22:09 -0500 > >This is exactly the kind of ATTITUDE I got from UUC when I told them there >was a problem. It must be something I did. Well I'd be the As a vendor, I'm sure that they're looking at the percentages when problems are reported. For example, if UUC sold 500 SS kits and 450 of them had problems similar to yours, I'd blame the kit. On the other hand, with a small number of kits having problems, I'd suspect the installation. How about a poll? 1) Did your UUC SS install end up with loose ERK problems? If Answer to Question 1 is Yes, respond to Question 2: 2) Was your UUC SS install performed by a shop that has experience with UUC SS installations? >screwed without hitting a stopping point. This did not happen. Why is it >that when I say the bolts grinded away the carrier to the point where the >ERK was loose no one wants to believe me? If the ERK is loose (in the carrier) it will move slightly as you use the shifter, and, over time, the screws will ultimately grind against the carrier. Maybe you filed/ground away TOO much metal on the carrier, so the ERK no longer had a snug fit in the carrier hole. Or, maybe your carrier had a larger than normal hole? >UUC is GOD. The problem at this point isn't the ERK. The ERK I have is >fine, there is NO thread damage so purchasing another one will solve >nothing. It's the carrier that is damaged as a result of the >ERK screws. Each time i tighten the screws back up on the ERK it lasts for >a month or two till they grind away at the carrier and make the ERK loose >again. And even if the ERK was damaged, why the hell should I give UUC MORE >money for something they didn't design very well in the first place? Well, if the ERK is fine but the carrier is bad, how can you blame UUC? >Hypotheticaly speaking, if I did strip the threads why was this possible? >Why didn't they just make the damn ERK out of steel or devised a better >mechanism for attaching the ERK to the carrier????? Since the carrier is aluminum, maybe it's an issue with different metals coming in contact with each other, in an environment that is exposed to salt water (electrolytic action between different metals)? I'm not a metallurgist, so I can't answer that one. -rb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#4. Which camber plates to get? - from dennis quan
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:23:20 -0700 (PDT) From: dennis quan <dcquan@yahoo.com> Subject: Which camber plates to get? I am debating between the Turner or the TCKline camber plates. The TC plates cost twice as much as the Turner. I was wondering if the TC plates are that much better than the Turner plates to warrant the price difference. I plan on tracking my car at least 6 times a year. You guys have any input? Thanks in advance. Dennis 99 M3 w/Bilsteins and H&R race springs __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#5. Re: [E36M3] ASC Light? - from Wen Liew
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:43:44 GMT From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ASC Light? Jonathan, OMG! The weather forecast calls for overcast in the morning with possibly light showers here in Ventura County.... hurry, get new Aquatred tires and the ASC fixed ;-) Honestly, it's nothing really to sweat about. No ASC in the wet make thou a better driver??? Ask the E30 M3 or 95 M3 owners ;-) Wen 96 M3/2 - ASC always off >Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:36:23 PDT >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: [E36M3] ASC Light? > >Has anyone experienced this (mine's a '99M3)? Is it more likely a loose >ASC >connection somewhere or simply a lose light bulb? With my low tread and >rain >coming within a day or two, I didn't think it wise to waste rubber just to >test the ASC in it's non-lighting phase to be sure it was working when it >wasn't lit. Is this something simple I could check or is it best left to >the professionals? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#6. Re: ASC Light? - from tristar500@mac.com
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:49:13 -0500 From: "tristar500@mac.com" <tristar500@mac.com> Subject: Re: ASC Light? > Not because I want to burn out > at every stoplight, but simply because if I get into any situations of lost > traction, I find it easier to predict and control what the car will do if > it's not fighting me with all the electronic gizmos. Where do you drive/live that losing traction on dry pavement is such a constant concern? > Unless it's raining, I generally make it a point to turn the ASC off (light on > dashboard on) everytime I get in the car. > > Anyway, to the point... As I left work yesterday, I hit the button but no > light came on. I continued to push it a few times and still no light You probably wore the damn switch out. > Has anyone experienced this (mine's a '99M3)? > Is this something simple I could check or is it best left to > the professionals? It's under warranty right? Why bother messing with it yourself? -- Dave '96 M3 '84 Reynard SF
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#7. PF90's rattling - from jbergstrom
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:59:57 -0500 From: "jbergstrom" <john@intellectsys.com> Subject: PF90's rattling Yes, this topic has been discussed before, but I don't think I ever saw anyone post an elegant solution for adding clips or shims to keep the PF90's from rattling. Porterfield recommended brake shims that are sticky on both sides to hold the pads in place. I found these shims at a brake service place ("Just Brakes") and asked the manager about them, he says he really does not like them, and that "as soon as the brakes get above 450 degrees, they're going to come loose, and the loose shim might even cause some damage." Well, in track conditions, I'm sure the brakes get much hotter than 450 degrees . . . Porterfield also said that if I sent them a set of stock pads they could take the clips off of them and somehow weld or fix them onto the PF90s. They didn't mention any charge or anything for this, I'm sure it would be something. I've used stock pads up to now, and am very very fat and clumsy and even more lazy and I don't own any tools and I'm allergic to brake dust and I don't really want to switch back and forth and worry about different pad compounds coating my rotors. Change pads AND rotors for every event?!?!?! ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!?!? It's already a pain to change wheels!!!! And I like to spend my time eating Hi-Ho's. ;-) So if anyone out there is wearing PF90's on the street and has found a way to prevent the infamous rattling, please let me or all of us know. Thanks! John "Hi-Ho" Bergstrom '95 M3
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#8. Re: [E36M3] ASC Light? - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:05:39 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ASC Light? he he. Actually, the ASC doesn't really have me worried... I generally prefer it to be off... It's just these MXX3s on wet pavement that are scary (not that October/Halloween kind of scary either). Jonathan L. >From: "Wen Liew" > >Honestly, it's nothing really to sweat about. No ASC in the wet make thou a >better driver??? Ask the E30 M3 or 95 M3 owners ;-) > >Wen >96 M3/2 - ASC always off > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#9. Re: [E36M3] PF90's rattling - from Rich Gay
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:15:35 -0500 From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] PF90's rattling on 10/3/00 11:06 AM, jbergstrom at john@intellectsys.com wrote: > I've used stock pads up to now, and am very very fat and clumsy and even > more lazy and I don't own any tools and I'm allergic to brake dust and I > don't really want to switch back and forth and worry about different pad > compounds coating my rotors. Change pads AND rotors for every event?!?!?! > ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!?!? It's already a pain to change wheels!!!! And I like > to spend my time eating Hi-Ho's. ;-) John, don't be so damn lazy, changing the pads only adds another 15 or 20 minutes to the swap time. :) Plus, it is a great opportunity to inspect your pads, piston dust boot, etc. - Rich
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: ASC Light? - from Scott
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:16:11 CDT From: "Scott" <whosez@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: ASC Light? >>Not because I want to burn out >>at every stoplight, but simply because if I get into any situations of >>lost >>traction, I find it easier to predict and control what the car will do if >>it's not fighting me with all the electronic gizmos. >Where do you drive/live that losing traction on dry pavement is such a >constant concern? I turn off my ASC every time I drive in the dry too. I've had it kick in too many times when hitting broken pavement or (very low) center medians. Don't know what sort of pavement you all drive on, but here in Chicago I get a lot of opportunities to test ASC. And usually when trying to get into a hole in traffic (can you say "D'oh!" when the ASC kicks in & traffic is rushing at you?!) Scott _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Re: ASC Light? - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:18:16 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: ASC Light? >From: "tristar500@mac.com" > >Where do you drive/live that losing traction on dry pavement is such a >constant concern? > I'm in So. Cal. It's really not a "constant concern." I've just made it a habit to turn it off because I prefer to feel like I know what the car is doing and that it's not going to feel like I'm lifting off the throttle while I'm trying to accelerate out of a turn. Plus, if I don't make it a habit, I find that I forget to turn it off at the track and that can cause some problems. > >You probably wore the damn switch out. > >It's under warranty right? Why bother messing with it yourself? > Good point, Dave. I was just inquiring to see if there's a way I can visually inspect something to avoid taking time off from work to visit my dealer. They're nice people and all... I just don't like spending all of my time there if I don't need to. ;-) Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#12. P-car Vs BMW - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:20:08 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <Kim.Burgess@PSS.Boeing.com> Subject: P-car Vs BMW I still don't get this comparo stuff going on. Isn't the P-car a two seater? Sure it is going to be more aerodynamic. Horse power the same....what do the torque curves look like? I'd bet the flat six has a very tall flat curve compared to the I-6. No facts or data here but I know what I know. Why wasn't the M Coupe campaigned against the P-car? KLBurgess 99///M3/2
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#13. ALMS at Laguna Seca - from steve crowl
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:24:08 -0500 From: "steve crowl" <scrowl@austin.rr.com> Subject: ALMS at Laguna Seca Anybody going to this race? Will there be a BMW corral? cheers, steve c.