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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess - from John Van Houten
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:21:38 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess > are you telling me hostess prints differnt packaging for different parts of > the country? scary... I can neither confirm nor deny the existance of different packaging ;-) Maybe ///H is for maketing... John 95M3 "Ice9" - wounded
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#2. 2001 M3 - from Mike Fleischer
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:22:26 -0500 From: "Mike Fleischer" <mfle@ti.com> Subject: 2001 M3 Well I got some good info today thought I'd share it (there is a lot): I was faxed the 2001 M3 Product Ordering Guide Here's the cars specs (the fax has some blurry parts) Unladen Weight 3415 lbs Weight Dist F/R 51.0/49.0% Engine 3.2L inline 6/24 valves Displacement 3245 cc Bore/Stroke 3.43/3.58 in Nominal Output/RPM <mailto:333hp@7900> 333hp@7900 Max Torque / RPM <mailto:262@4900> 262 lb-ft@4900 Gear Ratios 4.23/2.53/1.67/1.23/1.00/0.83/3.75(R) Final Drive 3.64 Drag Coeff 0.33 Top Speed 155 Accelleration(0-60) 4.8 mileage TBA Brakes 12.8" Front / 12.8" Rear Wheels 18x8 front 18x9 rear Tires 225/45/ZR18 255/40/ZR18 Ok then there's the demographics for an M3 buyer along with those for an E36 M3, Porsche 911 C2 and a MBCLK430. Also BMW thinks competion for the new M3 consists of: MB CLK430, MB CLK55 AMG, Porsche 911 C2, and Chevrolet Corvette. Comments: Wow it gained some weight! Wow its pretty fast and has more power than first indicated, it is also missing that magic 50/50 weight distribution. Things that make you go hmmm. Ok here are the color options: Exterior: Alpine White Imola Red Laguna Seca Blue Jet Black Titanium Silver (Unkown too garbled to read) Fern Green Carbon Black Interior: Black leather/Black cloth inserts Nappa Leather Option: Imola Red Cinnamon Gray Black Stand-Alone options: Rear Side impact airbags Power Glass 2-way moonroof Rear Spoiler Delete Width adjustable backrests with 4-way lumbar support Park Distance Control Xenon headlights On board navigation system (no in dash CD) In-dash CD player (no Nav system) Harmon Kardon 12 speaker sound system Mettalic paint Nappa Leather Interior Then theres a bunch of packaged options, Cold weather, Power Seat, Luxury package yadda yadda Hope this wets everyone's appetite for the new Bahn stormer, Orders will be started end of Oct, the convertible will be available next spring sometime. That's the scoop rgds, Mike Fleischer
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Worst M3 upgrade? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 18:33:41 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Worst M3 upgrade? on 9/29/00 19:25, E36M3 at e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:11:07 -0500 > From: Andy Korczynski <Andy@casskor.com> > > I'll probably get pelted for this, but UUC SS (poor design, rattles, slowly > grinds away at your carrier), followed shortly after UUC clutch stop which > didn't hit the mark if you know what I mean. I've had the UUC SS kit for ages (replacing a not very good Korman SS), never had a problem. Added the ERK when it became available, never had a problem. From the other posts it appears as if there was some change or tooling variation in the stock BMW carrier that came along and interfered. I've also used the UUC Clutch Stop since it became available, never had a problem. I believe that Ron Stygar has comprehensively shown that the problem with clutch stops isn't so much the stop itself, but the sloppy - not to mention squeaky - stock clutch pedal. Just some more data points. Neil 96 M3 - BTW, I have the Strut Barbarian, and that's pretty damn good too.
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#4. Re: converting to studs - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 18:40:57 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: converting to studs on 10/2/00 15:15, E36M3 at e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:13:17 EDT > From: RFKoby@aol.com > Subject: converting to studs > > anyone inquiring about converting to studs, > call the TireRack. > They have a nice & complete stud kit. > Alloy studs to THREAD in with loctite, > and lightly torqued.... > and VERY LIGHT nuts to fit > (they feel like plastic they are so light) > Studs are long enough to run 10mm, or 15mm?? > spacers and still have enough engagement. > > bob Unfortunately these nice black aluminum alloy nuts also have about the durability of plastic. I'm already looking for a better alternative after just a month. Even my trick 6 point socket with aluminum insert chews them up. I can't believe that their weight savings is meaningful even in racing, and certainly not for the rest of us. Neil 96 M3
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#5. Re: [E36M3] 2001 M3 - from Michael Ting
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:43:48 -0500 From: "Michael Ting" <lupin@purdue.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2001 M3 > Weight Dist F/R 51.0/49.0% Maybe if they have a spare instead of the extra exhaust pipe, it would be 50/50 distribution. > Engine 3.2L inline 6/24 valves Hmm.. I thought it was going to be 3.4 liter. No? > Accelleration(0-60) 4.8 Nice. 4.5 secs with Jim C Airbox and chip? ;) > Drag Coeff 0.33 ??? Is this true?? The regular E36 has .32, and I think the new S class has ..28 or .29 drag. Michael Ting --------------------
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#6. Re: [E36M3] 2001 M3 - from Captain Hags
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:06:31 EDT From: "Captain Hags" <captainhags@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2001 M3 What? No Dakar yellow? Now, sure, maybe it was the garbled color, but it should have been at the top of the list! I'll have some words with someone about this! Teasing me with the yellow show car! Who do they think they are?!?!?! Chris '95 M3, dakar yellow, ohhhhh yeahhhhh >From: "Mike Fleischer" <mfle@ti.com> >Reply-To: "Mike Fleischer" <mfle@ti.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: [E36M3] 2001 M3 >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:26:38 -0500 > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:22:26 -0500 >From: "Mike Fleischer" <mfle@ti.com> >Subject: 2001 M3 > > >Ok here are the color options: > >Exterior: >Alpine White >Imola Red >Laguna Seca Blue >Jet Black >Titanium Silver >(Unkown too garbled to read) >Fern Green >Carbon Black > >Interior: >Black leather/Black cloth inserts >Nappa Leather Option: >Imola Red >Cinnamon >Gray >Black > >Stand-Alone options: >Rear Side impact airbags >Power Glass 2-way moonroof >Rear Spoiler Delete >Width adjustable backrests with 4-way lumbar support >Park Distance Control >Xenon headlights >On board navigation system (no in dash CD) >In-dash CD player (no Nav system) >Harmon Kardon 12 speaker sound system >Mettalic paint >Nappa Leather Interior > >Then theres a bunch of packaged options, Cold weather, Power Seat, >Luxury package yadda yadda > > >Hope this wets everyone's appetite for the new Bahn stormer, Orders will >be started end of Oct, the convertible will be available next spring >sometime. > >That's the scoop > >rgds, >Mike Fleischer > > > > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >************************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#7. Audi Forum - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:21:23 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: Audi Forum Back in January of this year, a made a statement on this list about Audi S4 reliability problems in Europe. I was immediately blasted by a BMW enthusiast (who happens to own an S4), claiming my statements bordered on being libelous. I now find it ironic that there's a huge thread on the Audi S4 Forum with talk of class action suits against Audi of America because the cars are breaking with the increased boost/power from chips and other mods. People (not just Audi owners) need to take responsibility for their actions without looking to sue their tuners/dealers/manufacturer every time their modified car breaks. Perhaps Audi limited power for a reason. When S4 owners come to their dealerships with claims that their car failed with normal use, AoA factory representatives need only review the Audi Forums archives for incriminating evidence of tampering by these power hungry enthusiasts. BMW content....the normally aspirated BMW's can be modified via chip tuning without much consequence. The E36 M3 is a more bullet proof car than the S4 and should become a real price bargain with the advent of the new E46 version. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com
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#8. Re: Hr and bilsteins.. - from ClassiGuy3@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:21:45 EDT From: ClassiGuy3@aol.com Subject: Re: Hr and bilsteins.. I had Hr springs..they suck. I just changed to eibachs and bilsteins. much better. i als ohave uuc sway bars. Ithink i have the perfect suspension t oget a rounf in NYC area. if you can survive nyc streets on 18 inch bbs rc's you can make it anywhere..ny ny..lol Leo 95 M3///
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:01:24 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess If you eat a Ho-Ho is it the same as eating a Ho twice? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:46 PM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Hostess > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:37:25 -0500 > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > Subject: Re: Hostess > > > John -- Aren't they called Ho-Ho's not Hi-Ho's. I like to eat them with > ice > > cream -- put a little cognac on top -- light a match and wala you have > > "flaming Ho-Ho's. > > We actually had a rather extensive debate about this in college. Aparently, > depending on what part of the country you are in, the "Ho-Ho's" that I grew > up with are "Hi-Ho's" somewhere else. Likewise, "Ding Dongs" are also > called "King Dons". People had their parents send empirical evidence to > prove their point as the argument grew to almost jihad intensity! > > There was some correlation, e.g., East vs West Coast, the South, Midwest, > etc., but I don't remember that part. Those brain cells must have been > killed by the cheap beer... > > John > 95M3 "Ice9" - wounded > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess - from Jim Powell
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:06:21 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess One makes you fat and one makes you phat. Hi Joe, ya Ho' J'A'P Joe Dyer wrote: > > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:01:24 -0700 > From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hostess > > If you eat a Ho-Ho is it the same as eating a Ho twice? > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:46 PM > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Hostess > > > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:37:25 -0500 > > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > > Subject: Re: Hostess > > > > > John -- Aren't they called Ho-Ho's not Hi-Ho's. I like to eat them with > > ice > > > cream -- put a little cognac on top -- light a match and wala you have > > > "flaming Ho-Ho's. > > > > We actually had a rather extensive debate about this in college. > Aparently, > > depending on what part of the country you are in, the "Ho-Ho's" that I > grew > > up with are "Hi-Ho's" somewhere else. Likewise, "Ding Dongs" are also > > called "King Dons". People had their parents send empirical evidence to > > prove their point as the argument grew to almost jihad intensity! > > > > There was some correlation, e.g., East vs West Coast, the South, Midwest, > > etc., but I don't remember that part. Those brain cells must have been > > killed by the cheap beer... > > > > John > > 95M3 "Ice9" - wounded > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************
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#11. RE: [E36M3] M3 Prices (was Audi S4 forum) - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:08:40 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 Prices (was Audi S4 forum) Steve I highly doubt that the M3 prices are going to come down due to the E46 M3. There is a 1.5 year waiting list at my local dealer (Allison BMW) on the E46 and they are selling the 98 M3s for 40K or so. A friend of mine just bought a 98M3 with 24K miles for 39500 so I am not BS'ing about the price. Bora -----Original Message----- From: Steve D'Gerolamo To: E36M3 Sent: 10/3/00 5:26 PM Subject: [E36M3] Audi Forum BMW content....the normally aspirated BMW's can be modified via chip tuning without much consequence. The E36 M3 is a more bullet proof car than the S4 and should become a real price bargain with the advent of the new E46 version. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************