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#1. RE: [E36M3] M3 Prices (was Audi S4 forum) - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:43:24 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 Prices (was Audi S4 forum) At 10:16 PM -0500 10/3/00, Bora Akyol wrote: > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:08:40 -0700 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 Prices (was Audi S4 forum) > > Steve > > I highly doubt that the M3 prices are going to come down due to the E46 M3. > There is a 1.5 year waiting list at my local dealer (Allison BMW) on the E46 > and > they are selling the 98 M3s for 40K or so. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks or so, depending on the stock market... I was a few back on a list for an E39 M5 - all of the sudden I get a call today, and I've bumped up to a November production car. Why? Because some others on that list want to put themselves back at the end until their stock situation straightens out... It will be interesting to see what happens to that 1.5 year E46 M3 wait if the usual October market jitters take hold... (prices won't come down, but the list may get shorter) -- Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA
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#2. GP for Eibach Sway Bars - from rossb77@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:25:05 -0500 From: rossb77@juno.com Subject: GP for Eibach Sway Bars I'd like to get in on this GP if its not to late. Can someone tell me the contact info? Thanks Ross 95 SC M3
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#3.Rear sway bar from '96> M3 - from Rob
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:46:52 -0600 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: <WTB> Rear sway bar from '96> M3 I'm looking for a 20mm stock rear sway bar from a 1996 or new M3. Anyone have one for sale? Want to sell it or trade for a set of O.E. clear corners? Thanks Rob motor@cadvision.com
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#4. Mobil 1 - from SeaUinOC@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 02:02:25 EDT From: SeaUinOC@aol.com Subject: Mobil 1 Hi Everyone! I just wanted a recommendation as to what viscosity of Mobil 1 Tri-Flow Synthetic Motor Oil I should use for my 1999 M3. It is my daily driver that I also use for autocross and drivers' schools. I live in Maryland, which, for the most part, has four seasons. The temperature can range from 15-100 degrees during the course of the year. Also, a detailing tip. I purchased "The Absorber" at Wal-Mart yesterday for $8.47. Definately, one of the best investments I have made in car care products. It truly is twice as absorbent as a terry cloth towel, leaves no lint, and does not rip or tear like a natural chamois. Another note, the prices at Wal-Mart on regular car care products were significantly less than other stores. I am talking 20-30% less! Although, the selection was not as extensive. Always looking for a "Blue Light" special... Dean BMW.WilliamsF1
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#5. TRACK EVENT - CA - Buttonwillow, Oct 10/11 - from Bradley J. Otoupalik
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 00:00:33 -0700 From: "Bradley J. Otoupalik" <otoupalik@pobox.com> Subject: TRACK EVENT - CA - Buttonwillow, Oct 10/11 Hey guys and gals, I wanted to give one final announce for our next Driving Concepts ( www.drivingconcepts.com <http://www.drivingconcepts.com/> ) track event. We have two very special events coming up on October 10 and 11 and Buttonwillow Raceway Park, CA (1/2 way between LA and San Jose). Look at the list of Pros and experts included! Advanced Racing/Driving Seminar This special event will be led by acclaimed racing and driving coach, Ronn Langford. In addition to coaching many of the top professional drivers over the years, he is a co-author of the best selling book Speed Secrets. You can see more about Ronn below. This seminar will combine Ronn's nationally praised lecture with track time. We will also be offering on-track instruction by 1999 Porsche GT3 World Champion Cort Wagner and Chevrolet Team Driver Kelly Collins. By reinforcing what is taught in the classroom with immediate implementation on Buttonwillow's fantastic road course, Driving Concepts is offering the most unique learning opportunity available anywhere! Register Now for Only $795.00 High Performance Driving School Designed for the enthusiast who wants to explore the capabilities of their vehicle in a safe, fun and educational environment. This program is presented by Race Drivers and Instructors, Including Davy Jones, Cort Wagner, Kelly Collins and Belinda Endress, who develop the drivers' car control skills and knowledge of vehicle dynamics. On track driving time is enhanced by classroom presentations focused on driver skill development. You have invested in the car, now learn to enjoy the capabilities and performance of your vehicle with complete driver control. Register Now for Only $495.00 Common Event Details: This is a full service two-day event. Driving Concepts will be offering two full days of instruction and track time. We will also provide all the amenities associated with a four-star event! - October 10 (Tuesday) and October 11 (Wednesday) - Buttonwillow Raceway Park, Full Track 2.64 to 2.8 miles - 3-4 hours of classroom instruction - 3-4 hours of on-track time each day - Ability to learn from professional instructors in your own car - Fully catered BBQ lunch both days (Ribs, Roast Beef and Chicken with all the trimmings cooked while we drive and served on real plates with silverware!) - On-Track instruction by accomplished drivers and instructors including Cort Wagner, Kelly Collins, Davy Jones and Belinda Endress! - Participants provided with certificate of completion and letters of recommendation - Numerous giveaways and Star Performer award Details and registration at: www.drivingconcepts.com <http://www.drivingconcepts.com/> info@drivingconcepts.com Bradley J. Otoupalik
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#6. Re: converting to studs - from RFKoby@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 07:34:48 EDT From: RFKoby@aol.com Subject: Re: converting to studs I haven't had a problem with wear & tear on these nuts.... Even on the 3 race cars (Wayne, Larry, Scott) and you know how often they changes tires.... Make sure the socket you use is a good 6 point deep well...... also, wear & tear could be from the cordless impact???? YMMV bob In a message dated Tue, 3 Oct 2000 7:41:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> writes: << on 10/2/00 15:15, E36M3 at e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:13:17 EDT > From: RFKoby@aol.com > Subject: converting to studs > > anyone inquiring about converting to studs, > call the TireRack. > They have a nice & complete stud kit. > Alloy studs to THREAD in with loctite, > and lightly torqued.... > and VERY LIGHT nuts to fit > (they feel like plastic they are so light) > Studs are long enough to run 10mm, or 15mm?? > spacers and still have enough engagement. > > bob Unfortunately these nice black aluminum alloy nuts also have about the durability of plastic. I'm already looking for a better alternative after just a month. Even my trick 6 point socket with aluminum insert chews them up. I can't believe that their weight savings is meaningful even in racing, and certainly not for the rest of us. Neil 96 M3 >>
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#7. 2001 M3 - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 07:39:35 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: 2001 M3 If this car comes in under $50k, its a steal! This is the only BMW I would personally buy at this time. No wonder there were so many E36 M3's for sale in the Roundel this month. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / steved3@idt.net / http://www.ultimategarage.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Brakes - 1999 M3 Replacement Info - from John Van Houten
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:54:26 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brakes - 1999 M3 Replacement Info > Seeking DYS instructions for standard brake pad replacement on 1999 M3 w/ 21k miles squeeling. Is >there an archieve or URL that would provide comprehensive instructions. There is a good write up at Dave Holeman's site: www.racepad.com. John 95M3 "Ice9" - wounded
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#9. Swapping rotors - from John Van Houten
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:13:47 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Swapping rotors When I change my pads for the track, I remove the carrier and caliper from the hub as a unit. I find it easier to access the carrier bolts and pull the whole assembly off, rather than removing the guide pins pulling just the caliper. Fitting the pads in is _slightly_ more difficult, but overall the process is easier, especially in the rear where the shock gets in the way. As an added bonus, swapping the rotors takes about additional 30 seconds or so per corner. Also, I haven't had a problem with warping Euro rotors on the M3. On my 95, they are ducted very well and I'm careful to cool them off when coming into the pits. I put them on my wife's car last weekend for an event at Gingerman and also had no problems with warping, even though the car was being driven back to back by both of us without any ducting. The current set of rotors has about 12 events (full weekends) on them. Work on braking technique, it really helps with warping. If I can find Michael Lord's excellent write up, I'll post it (again) if there is interest. John 95M3 "Ice9" - wounded 97M3/4 - hers - ready for track duty
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter - from Andy Korczynski
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:48:05 -0500 From: "Andy Korczynski" <andy@casskor.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Short Shifter Well yeah, maybe a triple dose.... As a vendor, I'm sure that they're looking at the percentages when problems are reported. For example, if UUC sold 500 SS kits and 450 of them had problems similar to yours, I'd blame the kit. On the other hand, with a small number of kits having problems, I'd suspect the installation. How about a poll? 1) Did your UUC SS install end up with loose ERK problems? If Answer to Question 1 is Yes, respond to Question 2: 2) Was your UUC SS install performed by a shop that has experience with UUC SS installations? ***** I don't doubt that most people haven't had problems. I've read/heard of many people who had similar problems to myself and this argument although seemingly valid is difficult to back up and I'm sorry but I won't take UUC's word as to how many complaints they have actually received. Anyways, using this "only a small number of people had problems therefore its the installation" argument isn't always the case. There could be a design flaw that is behind it as easily as an installation problem. You can argue either way, but without proof your not gonna get very far in either direction. Think about the number of Firestone tires that were sold. Are you gonna tell those 160 or so people that it was an installation problem? ***** If the ERK is loose (in the carrier) it will move slightly as you use the shifter, and, over time, the screws will ultimately grind against the carrier. Maybe you filed/ground away TOO much metal on the carrier, so the ERK no longer had a snug fit in the carrier hole. Or, maybe your carrier had a larger than normal hole? ***** I agree, but the ERK could only be loose in the beginning if: 1) I strippd the threads (which I didn't even though I know thats difficult for everyone to believe :) 2) The carrier had a larger hole then normal (as you mention) in which case UUC should have known that there are other types of carriers out there. In regards to me grinding away too much: No offense, but have you ever installed one of these? The area you have to grind away is no where near the area where the bolts go. ***** Well, if the ERK is fine but the carrier is bad, how can you blame UUC? ***** Because the ERK bolts damaged the carrier. The carrier was fine till I installed the ERK. ***** Since the carrier is aluminum, maybe it's an issue with different metals coming in contact with each other, in an environment that is exposed to salt water (electrolytic action between different metals)? I'm not a metallurgist, so I can't answer that one. ***** You could be right, I'm also not a metallurgist. My point is that for the ~$200-250 I paid for it, I would have expected UUC to figure this out. ***** -rb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Which camber plates to get? - from John Van Houten
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:48:36 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Which camber plates to get? > I am debating between the Turner or the Tackling camber > plates. The TC plates cost twice as much as the > Turner. I was wondering if the TC plates are that much > better than the Turner plates to warrant the price > difference. I plan on tracking my car at least 6 times > a year. You guys have any input? Thanks in advance. If you are driving your car on the street, I would recommend against the TCKR plates. They have solid spherical ball joints which will wear out quickly and beat the crap out of the car (and your kidneys) unless your roads are glass. I would recommend the TMS/KMAC plates for a street car because of the Urethane suspended bushing which provides a lot more shock absorption. I upgraded to the TCKR plates from the TMS/KMACs on my dual use car and switched back to the KMACs because of this. Of course the wonderful streets of Chicago influenced my decision. That being said, I love the TC Kline plates--they are well designed and an excellent fit on the E36. They are definately twice as good as the KMACs and have easier and more repeatable adjustment. Unless you're racing, you aren't going to adjust them for each event (try it a few times), and the KMACs will be fine set at max camber and castor (all the way back and in). The KMACs are in the car now and my TCKR plates are sitting on the shelf waiting for the race car to be built... Whatever camber plates you buy, whether it be TCKR, KMAC, Turner, Ground Control, etc. be sure they will work with your suspension setup, especially if you are not running coilovers. John 95 M3 "Ice9" - wounded 93 325is - on the hunt