E36M3 #603

Wednesday, October 04, 2000 20:44:23

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#1. Re:Inspection II in LA - from Frank Madsen
#2. Re: [E36M3] Inspection II in LA... - from Wen Liew
#3. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Bora Akyol
#4. RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 - from Sean Hester
#5. Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? - from Sean Hester
#6. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Sean Hester
#7. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from reed nicholson
#8. RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 - from Dave Spragg
#9. Re: Inspection II in LA - from Andy Chi
#10. Life of MetalMasters? - from Matt Henson

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#1. Re:Inspection II in LA - from Frank Madsen
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:30:07 -0700 From: "Frank Madsen" <stimboy@mediaone.net> Subject: Re:Inspection II in LA Does it have to be a dealer? plenty of idependent guys that are cheaper and better techs > Anybody on the list know of a dealership here in LA. > who will do an Inspection II for around $500 other than Nick Alexander? > I don't want to use them and I'm not having any luck finding anybody > else... > Thanks. > > Juan.

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Inspection II in LA... - from Wen Liew
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:59:39 GMT From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inspection II in LA... >Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:02:12 PDT >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inspection II in LA... > >I don't know what they'd charge for the service but it's a heck of a nice >little shop. Bimmer's Clinic... it's actaully in Reseda though. > >Jonathan L. Well, they're the same guys who quoted me $200 to install a SS because "vee need to drop the driveshaft (Hungarian accent)". Yeah, right! Wen _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#3. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:20:39 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace Note that X-brace will bump you from AS to ESP class in SCCA and NASA. On the other hand, it does change the way the car turns in, I like it. Bora ENF wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:05:51 -0400 > From: "ENF" <enf@iglou.com> > Subject: X-Brace > > (Newbie Alert!) I am considering the x-brace for my '97M3/4. As the car is > used for pleasure only at this time my sole intent is to do small simple > mods until I am to a point I can explore other options (i.e. driving > schools, etc.). As I have read many favorable things about x-brace I was > wonder if there was anything on the "down side" to consider? I would be glad > to hear any positive experiences as well. > > Thanks in advance, > > Ed Frank > enf@iglou.com > '97M3/4 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************

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#4. RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:21:43 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 >Any tricks with the R4 pads? I have heard that some pads require some >"fabrication" to get them to go on. the only problem i ever had putting R4s on was because of the clip. ;-P the thing is SO STIFF (a good thing) that sometimes it's hard to get the dang thing into the piston. and sometimes the clip has been bent (in shipping or something) and when you put the pad in, it's too high or low in the caliper. which requires taking the pad off, bending the clip with vice grips and putitng it back on. >Where is a good lace to >get these? How do they compare to Cool Willys? Does Turner have them? >Does >Steve D have them? get what? R4 pads? get them directly from porterfield. they give suzy's list members a discount. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#5. Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:22:40 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? >Just curious, how much do you all pay for a full 4 wheel alignment >whether it be dealer or private shop. I would appreciate some >recommendations in Central New Jersey if possible. I have a feeling that >$150 is a tad high. Let me know. >Thanks, >Frank i've paid from $89, to $219 depending on the dealer/shop. i'd say $150 is about average. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#6. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:24:27 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace >(Newbie Alert!) I am considering the x-brace for my '97M3/4. As the car is >used for pleasure only at this time my sole intent is to do small simple >mods until I am to a point I can explore other options (i.e. driving >schools, etc.). As I have read many favorable things about x-brace I was >wonder if there was anything on the "down side" to consider? I would be >glad >to hear any positive experiences as well. i can't think of a possible downside. it's probably the only M3 mod that can claim that. it even has some "bonus" up sides. like... when you scape your car going over a speedbump, it's the xbrace that get's scraped. not the oilpan or other "important" parts. ;-) i think all M3s should hve xbraces. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#7. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from reed nicholson
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:30:32 GMT From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace As I have read many favorable things about x-brace I was >wonder if there was anything on the "down side" to consider? I would be >glad >to hear any positive experiences as well. > >Thanks in advance, > >Ed Frank >enf@iglou.com >'97M3/4 > Ed, I have never heard anyone talk of a downside to the x-brace. I have one, it works as advertised, it's cheap and easy to install. Do it. Reed/Seattle _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#8. RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 - from Dave Spragg
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:08:00 -0400 From: "Dave Spragg" <dspragg@mediaone.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 Thanks to Sean, Shane, Robert, Steve and others for the info here. I will grab a set... burn through them and see what I think. Another question for the group regarding these is fade. I have had stock pads exhibit the old "didn't feel perfect" into a braking zone and then the old "holy shit I am going to die" going into the next. I keep attention on braking sensation always but since going to PF90s I have NEVER had fade, instead the grip just seems to get better and better. Of course this is only based on experience on NHIS (all three configurations) and Lime Rock in my stock M3 with stickies and JC intake. I will keep and eye out for it no matter what you guys say but I would benefit from knowing if it has happened to others. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Sean Hester [mailto:seanh_race@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:37 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:21:43 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] R4 versus PF90 >Any tricks with the R4 pads? I have heard that some pads require some >"fabrication" to get them to go on. the only problem i ever had putting R4s on was because of the clip. ;-P the thing is SO STIFF (a good thing) that sometimes it's hard to get the dang thing into the piston. and sometimes the clip has been bent (in shipping or something) and when you put the pad in, it's too high or low in the caliper. which requires taking the pad off, bending the clip with vice grips and putitng it back on. >Where is a good lace to >get these? How do they compare to Cool Willys? Does Turner have them? >Does >Steve D have them? get what? R4 pads? get them directly from porterfield. they give suzy's list members a discount. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************

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#9. Re: Inspection II in LA - from Andy Chi
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Chi <m3flyer@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Inspection II in LA Juan, I usually take my car to Savage, and I live on the westside. It's a trek and a half, but I really like their service. Bill is cool, and so is Eric. Their sales dept is a whole another story, unfortunately... Andy 98 M3 black/black __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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#10. Life of MetalMasters? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Life of MetalMasters? I realize that MetalMaster's aren't a favored pad around these parts but I've found them to be very grippy and fade resistant. My DE instructors even commented that they loved the way they felt compared to their stock pads.. So anyway, I put on a new set about 5-6k ago. 1 DE, a couple autoX's and a lot of fairly aggressive street driving. A week or so ago they started squealing all the time. Now the pad wear light is on. What gives? Do these things usually last 6 months? I haven't had a chance to check wear but the front calipers look fairly close to the rotors - and their equal. So that would seem to indicate that one side isn't binding, causing excessive wear. Any other experiences with these rotors and excessive wear (Sean's crumbling pads notwithstanding :-) ) -Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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