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#1. E36 M3/4 32K 4-sale - from lee.leslie@firstunion.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:35:23 -0400 From: lee.leslie@firstunion.com Subject: E36 M3/4 32K 4-sale Factory Warranty until 5/2001 or 50K Production 5/97 Serial WBSCD0325VEE12208 White, Light gray leather - as new, no cracks or scratches 5 Speed Auto 32,280 Miles Perfect Condition, not a single scratch, dent or ding, garage kept Never been to a body shop Maintained by Hendrick BMW in Charlotte, NC Svc II performed at 31,900 miles Blaupunkt CD w/ Remote Computer Sunroof Dinan Software Factory Keyless Entry with Alarm 2 Sets of M3 Mats Can e-mail pics. (Lee.Leslie@FirstUnion.com) $32K Located in Charlotte, NC
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: ASC Light? - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:10:45 -0500 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: ASC Light? > Just remembered that there was some guy that had a webpage that showed how > to rewire the ASC switch so that it would automatically switch itself off > when you started the car. Of course I can't find that page now. Still > looking. http://www.jogger-egg.com/kbob/asc+t.html I have not done this (nor do I plan to), I only have the URL bookmarked. Andrej '97 M3
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#3. Re[2]: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:14:04 -0500 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re[2]: [E36M3] X-Brace That is not the case as I understand it. The X-brace replaces a straight bar that ties the two frame rails. There are mounting holes that could be used to install the straight bar after the x-brace has been installed (further back, towards the transmission). That was what I heard was the big no-no. Installing the existing stock bar in addition to the x-brace will result in bad things (the engine) entering the footwell in a frontal crash. > Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that having a xbrace had a > negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 during frontal impact. IE: > the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the footwell making it more > likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in the footwell area... > I could be wrong. so could I, so correct my response if I'm wrong! Andrej '97 M3
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#4. RE: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Andy Korczynski
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:08:43 -0500 From: "Andy Korczynski" <andy@casskor.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] X-Brace Hmm, only warning I've heard of is that you HAVE to remove the existing bar where part of the x-brace bolts into. If you don't and your in a frontal impact the engine will not submerge as designed. Maybe this is what your talking about? Andy K. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Bishop [mailto:jason@secondhat.com] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:57 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that having a xbrace had a negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 during frontal impact. IE: the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the footwell making it more likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in the footwell area... I could be wrong. Jason > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:24:27 PDT > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace > > i can't think of a possible downside. it's probably the only M3 mod that > can claim that. > ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************
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#5. RE: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Robert Jackowitz
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:04:39 -0400 From: Robert Jackowitz <RJackowitz@HARVPART.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] X-Brace This is only an issue if you re-locate the existing brace. Remember, there is a structural brace there already which is replaced by the x-brace. The x-brace also comes standard on the convertible to reinforce its structural rigidity. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Bishop [SMTP:jason@secondhat.com] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:57 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that having a xbrace had a negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 during frontal impact. IE: the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the footwell making it more likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in the footwell area... I could be wrong. Jason
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#6. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace I think that this was only valid if you have the non-X front brace on also. If you use them both then you can get into troubly. BMW did add the X brace to the convertible and Lightweight cars, right? So it couldn't have been a huge safety issue. -Matt --- Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:17:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace > > > > Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that > having a xbrace had a > negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 > during frontal impact. IE: > the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the > footwell making it more > likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in > the footwell area... > > I could be wrong. > > Jason > > > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:24:27 PDT > > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace > > > > i can't think of a possible downside. it's > probably the only M3 mod that > > can claim that. > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#7. Re: X-Brace - from JUSTIN GERRY
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:33:54 -0400 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: X-Brace As far as I know, x-brace will only affect crumple zones ONLY if you leave the standard factory support bar connected along WITH the new X-brace. X-brace is standard on all convertible E36's (without the standard factory support bar) -Justin -- '76 02 (Whimsical) '97 M3 (Orion) (Not X-braced... yet..) BMW CCA#77056 check out http://users.vei.net/jgerry > Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that having a xbrace had a >negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 during frontal impact. IE: >the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the footwell making it more >likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in the footwell area... >I could be wrong. >Jason >> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:24:27 PDT >> From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace >> >> i can't think of a possible downside. it's probably the only M3 mod that >> can claim that. >>
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#8. X-Brace - from Lew Becker
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:45:31 -0700 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: X-Brace Not so if you remove the existing straight brace, rather than relocate it; in fact, the X-brace is fitted to all E36 convertibles (including the M3) by the factory. Lew Becker ----- Original Message ----- > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:17:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace > > > > Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that having a xbrace had a > negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 during frontal impact. IE: > the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the footwell making it more > likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in the footwell area... > > I could be wrong. > > Jason > > > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:24:27 PDT > > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace > > > > i can't think of a possible downside. it's probably the only M3 mod that > > can claim that. > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Am I the only one? (Raffle tickets) - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:48:20 -0400 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Am I the only one? (Raffle tickets) Mine were postmarked 19 September. Suwipin Martono wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:25:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Suwipin Martono <martono@newton.me.berkeley.edu> > Subject: Am I the only one? (Raffle tickets) > > Am I the only who haven't received the E46 M3 Raffle tickets yet? :( > > pin > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* -- Carey Probst Technical Director Business Intelligence and Warehouse Service Line Phone: (518) 584-4388 Fax: (518) 584-8037 E-Mail: Carey.Probst@oracle.com Member, M.I.T. Educational Council Perm: hcprobst@alum.mit.edu A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] X-Brace - from Jeff Thompson
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 11:05:18 -0400 From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace I think the original thread was about moving the stock bar back into the second set of holes after you install the X-brace. Apparently, if you put the bar there is won't allow the engine to drop in the event of a frontal collision. -jeff Jason wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:17:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] X-Brace > > Wait, I seem to remember from a previous thread that having a xbrace had a > negative effect on the crumple zones of the M3 during frontal impact. IE: > the xbrace reinforces the area in front of the footwell making it more > likely to have xbrace and assorted things end up in the footwell area... > > I could be wrong. > > Jason >
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#11. Newbie X-brace question - from Ed Tang
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Newbie X-brace question Ed Frank wrote: >(Newbie Alert!) I am considering the x-brace for >my '97M3/4. As the car >is >used for pleasure only at this time my sole intent is >to do small simple mods until I am to a point I can >explore other options (i.e. driving >schools, etc.). As I have read many favorable things >about x-brace I was wonder if there was anything on >the "down side" to consider? I would be glad >to hear any positive experiences as well. X-brace is a great upgrade. Good bang for the buck. Turn in is a little crisper and the chassis is definitely stiffer. My friends tell me that the outside front tire will pick up with the x-brace and strut tower bar installed at driving events. There really isn't a downside to the part as it was designed by BMW. You will scrape it at tall speed bumps but that's a lot better than the oil pan scraping. There shouldn't be anything holding you back from getting it. It's an easy install. USE A GOOD TORQUE WRENCH. Or at least one that has the proper range. Unfortunately the one I used had the specified torque at the extreme low end of the range. I overtorqued one screw and had to drill it out. Good thing I had extra bolts. Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#12. Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? - from Jim Wilcox
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:12:23 -0500 From: "Jim Wilcox" <JimShadow1@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? Funny, I just got quotes on this last week. The Stealer quoted me $372 for a 4 wheel alignment. Now mind you that their Inspection I charge is only $350. Where do they come up with this stuff??? You can bet I told them where to stick it. The local european shop (Where I'll be taking my ///M3 from now on) quoted me $160. Hope this helps. JIM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:22:40 PDT > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How much $ for Alignment? > > >Just curious, how much do you all pay for a full 4 wheel alignment > >whether it be dealer or private shop. I would appreciate some > >recommendations in Central New Jersey if possible. I have a feeling that > >$150 is a tad high. Let me know. > >Thanks, > >Frank > > i've paid from $89, to $219 depending on the dealer/shop. i'd say $150 is > about average. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >