E36M3 #612

Friday, October 06, 2000 20:07:12

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: x-brace - from Sean Hester
#2. Re: Ext. temp sensor & temp. alarm - from shane.a.kleinpeter@ac.com
#3. Fault codes - from ENF
#4. Fault Codes - from ENF
#5. Re: X-Brace - from Roger Baker
#6. Worst Mail Order vendors - from Peter Guagenti
#7. Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors - from NickG
#8. H&R coil-over install. Spacers needed? - from Rob
#9. Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors - from twisty M3
#10. Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors - from Peter Guagenti
#11. Re: 1OO Watt bulbs in Euro Ellipsoids? - from Gleb Arshinov

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: x-brace - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:47:34 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: x-brace >"x-brace will only affect crumple zones ONLY if you >leave the standard factory support bar connected along WITH the new >X-brace." > >I missed the original thread on crumple zones and thus react to this >comment >with some skepticism. Is it true? I did reinstall the orginal support bar >behind the x-brace (towards the rear of the car) in the spare holes that >seem made for that purpose. So far, my engine has not wound up in the foot >well. ;) Seriously, is there any cause for concern? If there's enough >force to "relocate" the engine, wouldn't that force obliterate the factory >support bar? The engine would have to move through the x-brace before it >even reached the support bar. It seems far to puny to be able to redirect >an engine moving with such force. yes there's concren! take it out! if that bar were so "whimpy" that it couldn't deflect the engine, why would they bother to put it down there to "stiffen" the car. the mass of the car is bigger then the mass of the engine. so if it can "effect" the whole car in any way, it can certainly "effect" the engine. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#2. Re: Ext. temp sensor & temp. alarm - from shane.a.kleinpeter@ac.com
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:34:12 -0400 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@ac.com Subject: Re: Ext. temp sensor & temp. alarm >2) There is an audible "ding" sound when the external temperature hits 38 >degrees. I assume the previous owner set this alarm threshold, although I have >no idea why someone would pick 38 degrees. At any rate, can this be reset? Ahhh, Fall is in the air. The changing of the leaves, the dropping of the temperatures, and questions on the BMW message boards about that damn dinging noise. Newbie BMW owners, don't fret, this is only the Bavarians way of letting you know that the temp is dropping and there is a possibility that the road surface is approaching a temperature close enough to freezing that you will need to begin to look for ice forming. There is no way that I know of to turn it off, so learn to live with it. Shane Kleinpeter <-- Freezing my a** off in cold, rainy Cleveland, can't wait to take the plane home in a couple hours Tarheel Chapter '96 M3 '88 535is

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#3. Fault codes - from ENF
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:35:10 -0400 From: "ENF" <enf@iglou.com> Subject: Fault codes I have been trying to obtain a list of fault codes that are stored in the DME. I have seen the OBD II list and they don't match up. Here are two that I know of that I actually have print-outs for. If someone could point me in the direction of where I might find these it would be appreciated. DME FAULT 51 Shutoff valve, activated charcoal filter Open circuit DME FAULT 251 Tank leakage detection: minor leak Small leak Anyone else have any of these they could share if there is NOT a list already? Thanks, Ed Frank enf@iglou.com 97M3/4

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#4. Fault Codes - from ENF
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:38:28 -0400 From: "ENF" <enf@iglou.com> Subject: Fault Codes Sorry I actually had 3 print outs DME FAULT 214 Road-speed signal Signal not plausible

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#5. Re: X-Brace - from Roger Baker
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 13:33:04 -0700 From: Roger Baker <rbaker@velodyne.com> Subject: Re: X-Brace They did put it on the factory cars that needed it the most. Convertibles & the limited production LTW M3's received the X-brace. But to save money on crash test certification (& probably production too) on the LTW, they just left it in a box with all the other hi-perf goodies to be installed by the end user (racer). Roger Baker > This brings up a question... > > BMW engineers are not dumb, and the more we mod our cars and "upgrade" > them, > the more we realize how we should of left them the way they were in a lot > of > cases. > So, what gives? Why did BMW engineers leave the X-brace out from the > factory? > There's obviously a reason. Just curious...

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#6. Worst Mail Order vendors - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 13:48:42 -0700 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Worst Mail Order vendors In keeping with Suzy's discussion about best/worst, I wanted to share a gripe about a mail order vendor... I ordered a set of polyurethane bushings from BMP yesterday, being that they are the _only_ vendor who seems to have them. Things did not go well. Strike #1: They have a strict policy against having your order shipped to anything other than your home address. Those of us who work for a living (which is something I'm pretty sure we all do so we can afford an M3) have a problem with that, as we are not around to sign for UPS. Strike #2: They will ship to another address if you jump through some hoops: they fax and/or mail you a release. You then have to sign this release (which essentially says that if your order is lost, you are sh** out of luck), and fax or mail it back to them. I opted for this, but they forgot to fax it, so my order sat until I called them up today and prompted them to move the order forward. So, now I am here, a day later and, now that it's friday, my order won't go out until monday (instead of going out yesterday). And because I couldn't deal with their whole faxed release thing, it'll be going to my house and I'll have to as UPS to re-direct it (adding a couple more days). Isn't customer service _great_? -peterg

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors - from NickG
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:26:55 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors Peter, I can understand your frustration. But I don't think that BMP's policy regarding credit card orders is out of place. With credit card fraud so widespread, it's understandable for a vendor to have such a policy. They're protecting everybody involved with their procedure: you, them, and the credit card company. I'm sure you'd feel differently if somebody got a hold of your CC number, made a bunch of purchases before you realized, and stuck you with the bill. You may be able to dispute the majority of the charges, but, if I'm not mistaken, you're still responsible for charges up to $50. Several $50 charges can add up to be a lot of money. IMO, BMP's policy is justified. Nick > I ordered a set of polyurethane bushings from BMP yesterday, being that they > are the _only_ vendor who seems to have them. Things did not go well. > > Strike #1: > They have a strict policy against having your order shipped to anything > other than your home address. Those of us who work for a living (which is > something I'm pretty sure we all do so we can afford an M3) have a problem > with that, as we are not around to sign for UPS. > > Strike #2: > They will ship to another address if you jump through some hoops: they fax > and/or mail you a release. You then have to sign this release (which > essentially says that if your order is lost, you are sh** out of luck), and > fax or mail it back to them. I opted for this, but they forgot to fax it, > so my order sat until I called them up today and prompted them to move the > order forward. > > So, now I am here, a day later and, now that it's friday, my order won't go > out until monday (instead of going out yesterday). And because I couldn't > deal with their whole faxed release thing, it'll be going to my house and > I'll have to as UPS to re-direct it (adding a couple more days). > > Isn't customer service _great_? > > -peterg

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#8. H&R coil-over install. Spacers needed? - from Rob
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:01:37 -0600 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: H&R coil-over install. Spacers needed? I'm having my H&R coil-overs installed over the weekend but I heard from someone that I might need 3mm-5mm spacers on the front wheels to have the set-up clear the tire! Is this true? I'll be running either a 17x7.5" et42 or 17x8" et 35mm with 215/45/17 tires. Please help! Thanks, Rob

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors - from twisty M3
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 15:02:16 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors Something I've learned from a few years experience with shipping that I'll pass on: I'd do my best to avoid re-directing it to work or elsewhere once it's shipped. I've seen too many packages lost when recipients do this. I'd ask UPS to hold it if their station is nearby/convenient for you to stop by on your way to/from work. If you feel safe doing so, you could also leave a note for them to leave it at the front/back door (behind a planter... whatever). I've seen the re-direction thing work, but it almost seems safer to just leave the package sitting at your front door step. Just sharing from experience. Jonathan L. >From: Peter Guagenti > >So, now I am here, a day later and, now that it's friday, my order won't go >out until monday (instead of going out yesterday). And because I couldn't >deal with their whole faxed release thing, it'll be going to my house and >I'll have to as UPS to re-direct it (adding a couple more days). > >Isn't customer service _great_? > >-peterg > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 15:52:15 -0700 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Worst Mail Order vendors on 10/6/00 2:26 PM, NickG at nikog@MediaOne.net wrote: > I can understand your frustration. But I don't think that BMP's policy > regarding credit card orders is out of place. With credit card fraud so > widespread, it's understandable for a vendor to have such a policy. That makes sense, except for the fact that most of the time credit card fraud is covered by the issuing bank's insurance, not the vendor. Everyone else in the world covers themselves by asking for your full billing address as verification, so what makes BMP need something different? Either way, my point was actually to point out an overall lack of satisfaction with the customer service on not just a ~$100 order, but a customer relationship with a value of probably over $6K on this car (the budget on mods from my last car), and a lifetime value that will probably be in excess of $25k. I put my money with the people who help me and treat me with some level of accommodation. Just my $0.02. -p

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#11. Re: 1OO Watt bulbs in Euro Ellipsoids? - from Gleb Arshinov
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Date: 06 Oct 2000 16:51:39 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <gleb@barsook.com> Subject: Re: 1OO Watt bulbs in Euro Ellipsoids? >>>>> "David" == David Flanary <dflanary@markhamvineyards.com> writes: David> I have purchased a set of the euro lamps. I understand that David> many people are using the 100W bulbs in them, and do so by David> using a bigger fuse. I am not an EE, and I know many of you David> listers are, so can someone tell me if this is playing David> dangerous games with the car's wiring. I don't want to David> cause any meltdowns. Using "reference to authority" scientific principle, the following is Shark's approved solution, which I am successfully using (knock on the wood :-). You need to call Josh @ Eurosport (http://www.sharked.com/) and buy high-temp extension wire extensions (this is what attaches directly to each bulb, and has insulation that is able to take the heat conducted from the bulb itself). You also need to upgrade 4 fuses for low/high beams from 7.5Amp to 10Amp. 7.5Amp won't blow immediately, but are supposed to deteriorate slowly, causing increases voltage drop on the way to headlamps (thus dimmer lighting). Disclaimer: this is just what I do. This can probably lead to your car catching on fire, blowing up, and generally spoiling your day. Gleb

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