E36M3 #647

Monday, October 23, 2000 08:53:35

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#1. 97 m3/4 dyno run - from Kit Wetzler
#2. Re: [E36M3] Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from Bora Akyol
#3. RE: Trailing Arm Mounting Pad Failure - from Aswtguy2c@aol.com
#4. Help! Dinan CAIS Install - from JLee
#5. bmwcca drivers school at nhis - great time - from David Michael
#6. Swaybar Mounts - Epilogue and Prologue - from Neil Maller
#7. E46 wheels on an E36 M3? - from Sean Ganess
#8. RE: [E36M3] Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from Robert Chay
#9. [E36M3] Which oil? - from Altezza280TT@cs.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] E46 wheels on an E36 M3? - from Ben Liaw
#11. FYI for the group - brake problem solved - from vernon@sprynet.com
#12. FS: 1995 M3 - from vernon@sprynet.com

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#1. 97 m3/4 dyno run - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:55:50 -0700 From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: 97 m3/4 dyno run First off Thanks for Alf and Dick Chiang for setting up this dyno day, it was lots of fun. Dynospot Racing in Mountain View is a cool shop. My 97 M3/4 with 62K miles put down 223.2 horsepower at somewhere around 6000 rpm. Did three runs all were within 1/2 horsepower of that run. Not bad for just intake and exhaust! no software yet, still running stock software. http://www.mindspring.com/~kitwetzler/dynochart_smaller.jpg -kit 97 m3/4 konis, H&Rs, K-mac camber plates, ground control rear shock mounts, TC Kline trailing arm bushings, AA rear stb, JTD front STB, dinan intake, uuc exhaust

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#2. Re: [E36M3]  Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:58:41 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <E36 M3> Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? Rob wrote: > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 19:05:40 -0600 > From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> > Subject: <E36 M3> Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? > > I just finished watching the Speedvision GT race from Road Atlanta(?) > and I swear the red E36 M3 (placed around 3rd) was running the stock M3 > muffler!. I couldn't tell on Peter Cunningham's car. > Can anyone confirm? You'd think of all people a race team would be the > first to repalce the muffler if it was a power robber? > The question is: Is the stock muffler a power robber? I think the answer is "No, not really" I am yet to see a dyno result on either BMWs or late Porsches that show a significant gain (>10HP) with a cat back exhaust. Once you bypass the cat, then all bets are off of course. I do like the sound of the Remus exhaust however. Bora

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#3. RE: Trailing Arm Mounting Pad Failure - from Aswtguy2c@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:41:50 EDT From: Aswtguy2c@aol.com Subject: RE: Trailing Arm Mounting Pad Failure E36 M3s have a trailing arms? I'm sure most people are reffering to the rear central arm. E36 M3s dont have trailing arms. Other parts to the rear suspension are the upper and lower lateral link and to BMW techs, they're called salad tongs. Jonathan Caldito

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#4. Help! Dinan CAIS Install - from JLee
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:57:54 -0400 From: "JLee" <jeff.s.lee@verizon.net> Subject: Help! Dinan CAIS Install To those of you who have this system, does the horn have to be relocated ? I've heard some people say they fit it in without relocation. Most of the posts I've read suggest its a real pain in the ass. Should I just go get it done by my mechanic, I don't have alot of the tools (grinder, etc.) that the instructions mention. Anyone in the Wash DC area willing to help with the install ??? Thanks Jeff

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#5. bmwcca drivers school at nhis - great time - from David Michael
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:29:20 -0400 From: "David Michael" <carieanddavid@mediaone.net> Subject: bmwcca drivers school at nhis - great time To all the folks who are on this list who also helped run/organize/instruct at the drivers school at nhis on Friday, I would like to say THANK YOU. It was one of best organized, most smoothly run events I have ever attended - of any kind. An extra special thanks to the instructors - who must have, at a minimum, nerves of something stronger than merely steel to allow themselves to be hurled around the track by people of all skill levels without so much as a flinch. Amazing. And also thanks to those who posted notes relative to brake bleeding. I pressure flushed the old fluid out with Super Blue (which makes it really easy to when the new stuff has made it through), changed the front rotors and pads, and had no problems at all. Dave 98 m3/4 x-brace/tilt wheel/1 power seat

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#6. Swaybar Mounts - Epilogue and Prologue - from Neil Maller
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:36:01 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Swaybar Mounts - Epilogue and Prologue Epilogue - I have now repaired the broken rear swaybar mount about which I posted previously. A bodyshop I trust welded up the broken tab, and added a longitudinal reinforcement to both mounts. The reinforcement is a slender steel triangle running most of the length of the stock tab, and is made of material is almost twice as thick as the mount itself. Cost was $125, including protective paint. The alternative would be to replace the entire rear subframe (about $535 new plus maybe 5 hours labour). I suspect the root causes to be: - Stiffer aftermarket swaybar - Hard ployurethane bushings - Impact loading from the uncompliant aftermarket swaybar links - Marginal original swaybar mount design. Prologue - While carefully inspecting the undercarriage for any other broken parts, I found that one of the front swaybar mounting straps is cracked about halfway along its right angle bend on one side. Since this is a bolt-on part, fixing it just involves a replacement part. I suspect the root cause to be the hard polyurethane bushing which doesn't compress like the stock rubber part. When the mount is cinched down, its tabs are additionally stressed when the bushing scarcely compresses. The effect is then compounded by loading from the bigger front bar. I have jpegs of each part available, let me know privately. I do suggest that you regularly inspect these areas if you track your car and have a setup similar to mine. Neil 96 M3 PS - Pounding my car around bumpy tracks like Grattan could have something to do with it too...

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#7. E46 wheels on an E36 M3? - from Sean Ganess
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:17 -0400 From: Sean Ganess <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> Subject: E46 wheels on an E36 M3? Will E46 wheels fit on an E36 M3? What is the standard offset of E46 wheels? I'm thinking of getting the double spoke wheels that are stock on the 330Ci.

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#8. RE: [E36M3]  Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from Robert Chay
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:46:50 -0700 From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] <E36 M3> Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? Do you really think they use cats on race cars? > -----Original Message----- > Once you > bypass the > cat, then all bets are off of course. > > I do like the sound of the Remus exhaust however. > > Bora > > >

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#9. [E36M3] Which oil? - from Altezza280TT@cs.com
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:34:39 EDT From: Altezza280TT@cs.com Subject: [E36M3] Which oil? Try Mobil 1 oW30 that what I use all year long. You can get it at Kmart for under $4 a qt Better for cold start up. Because the ow30 synthetic will be like water when you start it up in the morning. The 0w30 will pump easy because it like water and protect your engine when cold and be thick when the engine heat up to normal temp. Other weight just to thick when start up that why some will hear a ticking nose till the engine warm up to thick of a wight.Mark

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#10. Re: [E36M3] E46 wheels on an E36 M3? - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:55:27 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 wheels on an E36 M3? most E46 17" wheels have a ET47 offset. chances are, it will rub the strut. ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Ganess" <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: [E36M3] E46 wheels on an E36 M3? > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:17 -0400 > From: Sean Ganess <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> > Subject: E46 wheels on an E36 M3? > > Will E46 wheels fit on an E36 M3? What is the standard offset of E46 > wheels? I'm thinking of getting the double spoke wheels that are stock on > the 330Ci. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#11. FYI for the group - brake problem solved - from vernon@sprynet.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:43:54 -0400 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: FYI for the group - brake problem solved An FYI for the group - I had been chasing a very bad braking shudder all summer and I finally cured the problem. I'm posting this because others may chase the same phantom problem I had, thinking it was a brake problem. It turns out I first had a bad RIGHT lower control arm which felt just like a warped LEFT front rotor. After the lower control arm was replaced, the shudder was better, but not totally cured. It turns out that I also had a bad right tie-rod. This was also fixed and now the car has completely come alive. It is once again awesome under braking, just like I remembered it. My car had been hit on the right front wheel in late 1999, which was pushed into the strut. The insurance repair fixed the wheel, strut and fender, but did not replace the lower control arm or tie rod. It turns out that these were both weakened in the accident and 5 months later when I began tracking the car again, they both went bad. The car always felt fine on the street and at autocr! ! oss, it was only when it was pushed deep into braking zones on the track when the problem appeared. It really did feel just like a badly warped rotor, making it very hard to chase down. Like I said, I wanted to post this info in case anyone like me is trying to fix any mysterious braking problems, thinking they keep warping rotors and chasing ghosts. My advice is to closely check the control arms and tie-rods. The bad tie-rod was hardly noticable, just a tiny little bit of play. My dealer was not much help, my mechanic and I finally found the problem. I now wish I had been much more involved with the insurance repair and had pushed the replacement of more parts. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2

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#12. FS:  1995 M3 - from vernon@sprynet.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:47:28 -0400 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: FS: 1995 M3 I bumped into a guy this past weekend with an extremely clean 1995 M3 for sale. Here are the details: 1995 M3 Coupe Red exterior Black leather interior 41,000 miles Never tracked or autocrossed No winters (said he keeps in garaged Nov-Mar) Moonroof Not sure about other options $27,500 I have the guy's name and phone numbers if anyone's interested. Email me and I'll send his info. The car is located in Pittsburgh PA. I have no connection at all with this sale, just wanting to help any list members out who are looking for a really clean 95 M3. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 vernon@sprynet.com

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