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#1. RE: [E36M3] FYI for the group - brake problem solved - from Zorine, Dmitri Y, CSCIO
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:18:25 -0400 From: "Zorine, Dmitri Y, CSCIO" <dmitri@att.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FYI for the group - brake problem solved Just wanted to share my experience with brake problems. Symptoms : '99 M3 Coupe with Euro floating rotors up front and R4S pads all around. Loud squeal and some shudder under medium breaking I thought it was just pad compound and slightly warped rotors, so I learned to live with it. Last week I installed Fischer (sp) SS brake lines, front and rear. Shudder is gone 100% and squeal is greatly diminished, like 80-90% is gone. Just an occasional peep at slow speeds coming to a complete stop at lights... I guess, soft lines allowed just enough play in the calipers to allow the pads to vibrate. Just another datapoint, YMMV. Dmitri > An FYI for the group - I had been chasing a very bad braking > shudder all summer and I finally cured the problem. I'm > posting this because others may chase the same phantom > problem I had, thinking it was a brake problem. It turns out > I first had a bad RIGHT lower control arm which felt just > like a warped LEFT front rotor. After the lower control arm > was replaced, the shudder was better, but not totally cured. > It turns out that I also had a bad right tie-rod. This was > also fixed and now the car has completely come alive. It is > once again awesome under braking, just like I remembered it.
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#2. 97 vs 98 Seats - from eugene han
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:59:39 -0500 From: "eugene han" <gene501@hotmail.com> Subject: 97 vs 98 Seats has anyone sat in both seats? I have had my 97 for 2 weeks now and then saw a 98 w/ these really padded looking seats. I'm curious if they are more comfortable and if it is possible to transplant some seats from a 98 into my car.
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#3. [E36M3] Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from andy radin
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:49:30 -0700 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: [E36M3] Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> >Do you really think they use cats on race cars? they did in BTCC as well...
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#4. Re: [E36M3]Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:24:40 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <E36 M3> Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? >The question is: Is the stock muffler a power robber? I think the answer is >"No, >not really" I am yet to see a dyno result on either BMWs or late Porsches >that >show a significant gain (>10HP) with a cat back exhaust. Once you bypass >the >cat, then all bets are off of course. um... for racing, 10hp is significant. i'd KILL to have 10 more HP on my race car. KILL! (well maybe not kill, but i'd like it ;-) for street driving 10hp doens't mean much, but if changing the muffler gave 10hp, i'm sure every speedvision race car would do it. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] FYI for the group - brake problem solved - from Sean Hester
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:32:13 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] FYI for the group - brake problem solved >An FYI for the group - I had been chasing a very bad braking shudder all >summer and I finally cured the problem. I'm posting this because others >may chase the same phantom problem I had, thinking it was a brake problem. >It turns out I first had a bad RIGHT lower control arm which felt just like >a warped LEFT front rotor. After the lower control arm was replaced, the >shudder was better, but not totally cured. It turns out that I also had a >bad right tie-rod. This was also fixed and now the car has completely come >alive. It is once again awesome under braking, just like I remembered it. P.S. on a trip to thunderhill, james shaiman brought his M3 in from a run early because of "badly warped rotors". we changed both fronts there at the track and thr problem didn't go away. it took us all day to find the problem (making for a non fun day for james) it turned out to be a bad front right wheel bearing. so... apparently lots of things can act like warped rotors (bearings, suspension, brake pad "deposits", AND warped rotors) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: : E46M3 is a Porker - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:04:33 PDT From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: : E46M3 is a Porker Rumor on the bimmer.org E46M3 message board says that BMW is considering a limited run of a GT/GTR (i.e. lightweight/more power), but no word as to whether or not it would come to the U.S. Jonathan L. >From: "Steven Hazard" Venting, yeah I know I'm venting.....M is for >marketing.....yadda, >yadda..... >I'm REALLY HOPING FOR A LIMITED RUN OF REAL M3's! > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#7. Cd changer mounting Non-bmw brand - from Robert_Manger@mastercard.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:07:59 -0400 From: Robert_Manger@mastercard.com Subject: Cd changer mounting Non-bmw brand Anyone have any suggestions on how/where to mount a cd changer (Blau A08 10cd) in the trunk of the car. I would like to use the factory braket concept, but I am not willing to fork over 80 bucks for a bent piece of sheetmetal Thanks, Rob
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Cd changer mounting Non-bmw brand - from Sean Hester
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:20:48 PDT From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cd changer mounting Non-bmw brand >Anyone have any suggestions on how/where to mount a cd changer (Blau A08 >10cd) >in the trunk of the car. I would like to use the factory braket concept, >but I >am not willing to fork over 80 bucks for a bent piece of sheetmetal thoughts about my aftermarket cd changer mounting project(s). i first mounted my changer in the factory location. (i built my own bent sheetmetal instead of paying $80). noticed that the changer skipped every time i hit a bump. (even small one) after a day or two i noticed that it only happened when i hit a bump with the right side of my car. it then ocured to me that mounting the cd player RIGHT OVER the rear wheel wasn't too bright an idea. so... i moved it over to the center of the trunk and the skipping improved (went away) 1000%. now. my M3 was stiffened a bit, and i suppose i could have gotten a "better" changer (i had alpine). but still... mounting it in the center will make for less skipping problems no matter what. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? - from steve crowl
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:25:10 -0700 From: "steve crowl" <scrowl@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? When I saw Peter Cunningham's car at Laguna Seca, it had headers. Also, many cars had Borla decals (see http://www.speedvisionwc.com/tech_bulletins/decal-placement.pdf referring to placement of decals). I assume that implies they use their mufflers, but I suspect cats are out. cheers, steve c. ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:58:41 -0700 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] <E36 M3> Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? > > The question is: Is the stock muffler a power robber? I think the answer is "No, > not really" I am yet to see a dyno result on either BMWs or late Porsches that > show a significant gain (>10HP) with a cat back exhaust. Once you bypass the > cat, then all bets are off of course. > > I do like the sound of the Remus exhaust however. > > Bora > > > > > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:41:50 EDT > From: Aswtguy2c@aol.com > Subject: RE: Trailing Arm Mounting Pad Failure > > E36 M3s have a trailing arms? > > I'm sure most people are reffering to the rear central arm. E36 M3s dont have > trailing arms. Other parts to the rear suspension are the upper and lower > lateral link and to BMW techs, they're called salad tongs. > > Jonathan Caldito > > > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:57:54 -0400 > From: "JLee" <jeff.s.lee@verizon.net> > Subject: Help! Dinan CAIS Install > > To those of you who have this system, does the horn have to be relocated ? > I've heard some people say they fit it in without relocation. > > Most of the posts I've read suggest its a real pain in the ass. Should I > just go get it done by my mechanic, I don't have alot of the tools (grinder, > etc.) that the instructions mention. > > Anyone in the Wash DC area willing to help with the install ??? > > Thanks > > Jeff > > > > > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:29:20 -0400 > From: "David Michael" <carieanddavid@mediaone.net> > Subject: bmwcca drivers school at nhis - great time > > To all the folks who are on this list who also helped > run/organize/instruct > at the drivers school at nhis on Friday, I would like to say THANK YOU. > It > was one of best organized, most smoothly run events I have ever attended > - > of any kind. An extra special thanks to the instructors - who must have, > at > a minimum, nerves of something stronger than merely steel to allow > themselves to be hurled around the track by people of all skill levels > without so much as a flinch. Amazing. > > And also thanks to those who posted notes relative to brake bleeding. I > pressure flushed the old fluid out with Super Blue (which makes it > really > easy to when the new stuff has made it through), changed the front > rotors > and pads, and had no problems at all. > > Dave > 98 m3/4 > x-brace/tilt wheel/1 power seat > > > > > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:36:01 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Swaybar Mounts - Epilogue and Prologue > > Epilogue - I have now repaired the broken rear swaybar mount about which I > posted previously. A bodyshop I trust welded up the broken tab, and added a > longitudinal reinforcement to both mounts. The reinforcement is a slender > steel triangle running most of the length of the stock tab, and is made of > material is almost twice as thick as the mount itself. Cost was $125, > including protective paint. The alternative would be to replace the entire > rear subframe (about $535 new plus maybe 5 hours labour). > > I suspect the root causes to be: > - Stiffer aftermarket swaybar > - Hard ployurethane bushings > - Impact loading from the uncompliant aftermarket swaybar links > - Marginal original swaybar mount design. > > Prologue - While carefully inspecting the undercarriage for any other broken > parts, I found that one of the front swaybar mounting straps is cracked > about halfway along its right angle bend on one side. Since this is a > bolt-on part, fixing it just involves a replacement part. > > I suspect the root cause to be the hard polyurethane bushing which doesn't > compress like the stock rubber part. When the mount is cinched down, its > tabs are additionally stressed when the bushing scarcely compresses. The > effect is then compounded by loading from the bigger front bar. > > I have jpegs of each part available, let me know privately. > > I do suggest that you regularly inspect these areas if you track your car > and have a setup similar to mine. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > PS - Pounding my car around bumpy tracks like Grattan could have something > to do with it too... > > > > > > -------------------- 7 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:17 -0400 > From: Sean Ganess <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> > Subject: E46 wheels on an E36 M3? > > Will E46 wheels fit on an E36 M3? What is the standard offset of E46 > wheels? I'm thinking of getting the double spoke wheels that are stock on > the 330Ci. > > > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:46:50 -0700 > From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] <E36 M3> Speedvision cars running stock mufflers? > > Do you really think they use cats on race cars? > > > -----Original Message----- > > Once you > > bypass the > > cat, then all bets are off of course. > > > > I do like the sound of the Remus exhaust however. > > > > Bora > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:34:39 EDT > From: Altezza280TT@cs.com > Subject: [E36M3] Which oil? > > Try Mobil 1 oW30 that what I use all year long. You can get it at Kmart > for under $4 a qt Better for cold start up. Because the ow30 synthetic will > be like water when you start it up in the morning. The 0w30 will pump easy > because it like water and protect your engine when cold and be thick when the > engine heat up to normal temp. Other weight just to thick when start up that > why some will hear a ticking nose till the engine warm up to thick of a > wight.Mark > > > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:55:27 -0400 > From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 wheels on an E36 M3? > > most E46 17" wheels have a ET47 offset. > > chances are, it will rub the strut. > > ben > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Ganess" <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 7:42 PM > Subject: [E36M3] E46 wheels on an E36 M3? > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:39:17 -0400 > > From: Sean Ganess <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> > > Subject: E46 wheels on an E36 M3? > > > > Will E46 wheels fit on an E36 M3? What is the standard offset of E46 > > wheels? I'm thinking of getting the double spoke wheels that are stock on > > the 330Ci. > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > -------------------- 11 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:43:54 -0400 > From: vernon@sprynet.com > Subject: FYI for the group - brake problem solved > > An FYI for the group - I had been chasing a very bad braking shudder all summer and I finally cured the problem. I'm posting this because others may chase the same phantom problem I had, thinking it was a brake problem. It turns out I first had a bad RIGHT lower control arm which felt just like a warped LEFT front rotor. After the lower control arm was replaced, the shudder was better, but not totally cured. It turns out that I also had a bad right tie-rod. This was also fixed and now the car has completely come alive. It is once again awesome under braking, just like I remembered it. My car had been hit on the right front wheel in late 1999, which was pushed into the strut. The insurance repair fixed the wheel, strut and fender, but did not replace the lower control arm or tie rod. It turns out that these were both weakened in the accident and 5 months later when I began tracking the car again, they both went bad. The car always felt fine on the street and at auto! > cr! > ! > oss, it was only when it was pushed deep into braking zones on the track when the problem appeared. It really did feel just like a badly warped rotor, making it very hard to chase down. Like I said, I wanted to post this info in case anyone like me is trying to fix any mysterious braking problems, thinking they keep warping rotors and chasing ghosts. My advice is to closely check the control arms and tie-rods. The bad tie-rod was hardly noticable, just a tiny little bit of play. My dealer was not much help, my mechanic and I finally found the problem. I now wish I had been much more involved with the insurance repair and had pushed the replacement of more parts. > > Vern Anderson > 98 M3/2 > > > > -------------------- 12 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:47:28 -0400 > From: vernon@sprynet.com > Subject: FS: 1995 M3 > > I bumped into a guy this past weekend with an extremely clean 1995 M3 for sale. Here are the details: > > 1995 M3 Coupe > Red exterior > Black leather interior > 41,000 miles > Never tracked or autocrossed > No winters (said he keeps in garaged Nov-Mar) > Moonroof > Not sure about other options > $27,500 > > I have the guy's name and phone numbers if anyone's interested. Email me and I'll send his info. The car is located in Pittsburgh PA. I have no connection at all with this sale, just wanting to help any list members out who are looking for a really clean 95 M3. > > Vern Anderson > 98 M3/2 > vernon@sprynet.com > > > > ************************************************************** > Digest Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************** >
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#10. Sorry for the partial list response - from steve crowl
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:40:04 -0700 From: "steve crowl" <scrowl@austin.rr.com> Subject: Sorry for the partial list response I know replying with the text from a whole digest is a mailing list pet-peeve. Sorry. steve c.