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#1. FW: incident at Thunderhill - from Donna Seeley
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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:36:38 -0700 From: Donna Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: FW: incident at Thunderhill We've lost another of our precious E30 M3s. Fortunately, Ali is fine. I know he's got friends on all these lists, though he's not a member, so he asked me to forward the incident report. BTW, it's been thoroughly discussed on the E30M3 list today, so he doesn't need to hear any more of what he should have done... Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido," grieving for his brother ---------- > From: "Ali Moayedi" <moayedi60@hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:03:02 PST > To: e30m3-list@bimmers.com > Subject: [M3] incident at Thunderhill > > It all started on Friday when I got my new Gruppe N suspension corner > weighted and all the camber, toe, etc... set properly. I picked up the car > after work and headed to Thunderhill. Once there, I checked the sheet > explaining what had been done. Everything looked normal except that I had > -4* of camber in the front. To say the least, this made my car oversteer in > a heartbeat. > I had a great run all day long except that the car was a handful with the > rear end always trying to step. Still, the car was fast and I was having a > great day. The last run, I was following my two friends in their E36 M3s > and we were going through our warm-up lap. At turn 8 (fast turn at full > throttle) the car stepped out from underneath me. It went perpendicular to > the track for about 20 feet before it caught and went straight off the track > (80+ mph). The car went about 10 feet off track before the nose dug into > the mud and lifted the rear of car straight into the air. The car did a > spin in the air and came back down on its nose 35 feet later (MB Le Mans > style), then proceeded to fly another 20 feet and land on its roof, then > tumble for another 45 feet up the hill. > The people who saw this were horrified, the corner worker told me that she > doubted that I was still alive. In the car, I was upside down but felt OK, > managed to get myself out of the car and signaled that I was OK (Thank God). > The car didn't look so good. My friends saw what had happened to me and > had pitted immediately. They said that they looked at my stuff in the > paddock and thought it was weird that my stuff was there, yet I might not > return alive. > As I write these words, I feel fine.... no soreness, no bruises, nothing. > My recollection of the whole thing is dim but I know what happened from the > scar marks in the dirt and people's explanation of what they saw. > I took a look at the car this morning. It looked bad but all the parts > that were there to protect(A,B pillars, etc..) did their job. It is > incredible that the car took this kind of beating and let me out unhurt. > I would like to thank Tammi Hull for ALL her help. Without her, I'd still > be stuck at the track not knowing what to do. She is a real life-saver. > > Now, I am looking for either a shell or a car that has a nice body but is > mechanically beat (gotta get back on the horse). Or even a reasonably priced > car. Diamond Schwartz is strongly preferable. I remeber a couple of cars > posted last week, unfortunately I deleted those messages thinking I don't > need another car. Thanks for any help. > > -Ali >
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#2. Are coil-overs legal in ESP class for SCCA? - from Steven Hazard
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:36:19 -0600 From: "Steven Hazard" <98m3@mediaone.net> Subject: Are coil-overs legal in ESP class for SCCA? Bora yes they are ok in ESP....You can't change the stock configuration in the rear of our cars so it's not a "coilover" back there. In the rear your springs sit outside the shock. So an adjustable threaded perch is used under the aftermarket spring you choose to adjust ride height.....along with the shocks you run.....The front of our car is a "coilover" where the shock sits inside the spring..... I word of warning to anyone thinking about running C/O's .....You give up lots of suspension travel especially in the rear....Also the rear springs are not Progressive, at least mine aren't.....Sooooo over any sharp dip, or ripple the car goes Kaaaabang! And when you hit a bump at speed such as a bridge transition at 75+MPH your head will hit the roof.....Not for the meak, or folks who thinks it's cool to lower their ride :-) With my current setup I run H&R Sport Springs in the Rear for the street and Autocross's..... these are progressive.....I only drop my H&R Race Springs in the rear when I go to the track.....550LB Springs that are approx 6" long is not a good street setup recipe...I tried but nada! I leave my C/O H&R Race spring setup in all year up front though....It is nirvana..... YMMV Steve Running a TC Kline H&R Race C/O kit with Double Adj Koni's................ -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:40:22 -0800 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <FS> H&R coil-overs Are coil-overs legal in ESP class for SCCA? Thanks Bora
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#3. Re: [E36M3]H&R coil-overs - from Matt Henson
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:07:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <FS> H&R coil-overs Yes. But only on the front. Rear height adjusters on the existing spring location are okay but you can't add a spring around the rear shock (if there's even room..). -Matt --- Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:40:22 -0800 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] <FS> H&R coil-overs > > Are coil-overs legal in ESP class for SCCA? > > Thanks > > Bora > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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#4. Coilovers in ESP - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:14:57 -0600 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: Coilovers in ESP Yes, coilovers are legal in ESP for an M3. They are not when the original attachment point is not used. A.J. 95 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:40:22 -0800 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@pluris.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <FS> H&R coil-overs Are coil-overs legal in ESP class for SCCA? Thanks Bora
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#5. For Sale: 17x7 330I wheels - from Davy Chou
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 00 07:42:36 -0800 From: Davy Chou <chou.d@apple.com> Subject: For Sale: 17x7 330I wheels Wheels for sale from 330I. Please email me if anyone is interested and picture is available also. Thanks, dc
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#6. Re: JTD RSM - from Bill P
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:09:13 -0500 From: "Bill P" <casanova@tpgbbs.com> Subject: Re: JTD RSM I installed mine in less then 30 min for both. Granted I don't have rear speakers and the rear tires were already off with the car on a lift and a nice ICE COLD 6-Pack Yeignling Lager (PA boys know what i'm talking about). Reading the list though makes me wonder. I think I might have to drink another 6-Pack. In haste I did not install any gaskets with the RSM's. Is this going to be a problem? Will it increase wear? Noise? Should I re-use the old ones (pretty twisted up but in one piece) or get new ones? What is the part number for the new ones (I allready know the part number for the lager)? Bill P
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#7. engine dolly - from dholeman@spooze.com
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Date: 7 Nov 2000 08:22:11 -0800 From: dholeman@spooze.com Subject: engine dolly Hi, I am looking for an engine dolly to store a 95 M3 engine on. I am looking for recommendations and sources for a dolly that will properly hold the engine. Thanks David Holeman www.racepad.com
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#8. Will These Wheels fit My car?? - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:29:18 -0500 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Will These Wheels fit My car?? i currently have 17x7.5 motorsport split 10 spokes with 225/45 front 245/40 back (SO2PP's). I also have H&R springs (not the race ones). I can get this great deal on Mille Miglie 17x8s w/ 40mm offsets. Will these fit on my car, a little rubbing is ok i suppose. Would i need more camber, im already at -2 in the rear. A quick response would be greatly appreciated as this deal needs to be closed soon. Thanks as always, Frank
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#9. [E36M3] Mods - from ENF
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:00:25 -0500 From: "ENF" <enf@iglou.com> Subject: [E36M3] Mods Thanks to all for the information on the X-Brace. I ended up buying from Nick Alexanders. It took me awhile to get some things I needed but overall everything went smooth. I did not do the install myself not having the means to do so, however my BMW dealer installed for $37.00 Half their labor rate. As I stated previously I am slowly doing mods and was looking for the easiest and least expensive to do first, focusing mostly on performance and handling (if that is not a contridiction). $140.00 (for install and parts) was pretty inexpensive. My next question is; are there any other mods that are worth doing under the $400 level? Thanks again list list supplies some valuable information (as well as some occasional humor). Ed Frank enf@iglou.com 97 M3/4
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Will These Wheels fit My car?? - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:40:12 -0600 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Will These Wheels fit My car?? I have similar wheels - 17x8 Moda m1's with a 40mm offset that I use for my snow tires. The snow tires aren't nearly as wide as normal street tires (205/50/17 bought used), so no problems on my end. Chances are you shouldn't have a problem since the stock wheels are 41mm offset. Hope that helps, Andrej '97 M3 > i currently have 17x7.5 motorsport split 10 spokes with 225/45 front 245/40 > back (SO2PP's). I also have H&R springs (not the race ones). I can get this > great deal on Mille Miglie 17x8s w/ 40mm offsets. Will these fit on my car, > a little rubbing is ok i suppose. Would i need more camber, im already at -2 > in the rear. A quick response would be greatly appreciated as this deal > needs to be closed soon. > Thanks as always, > Frank