E36M3 #689

Wednesday, November 08, 2000 20:51:57

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#1. BTG NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT: JTD STN RINGS - from nabli@attglobal.net
#2. spacers - from russell
#3. Help! Removing rear seats... - from Brent Williams
#4. E36 M3 6-speed gearbox upgrade - from Ben Liaw
#5. Wheel Weights (LONG) - from Dorffer, Rich
#6. Dead fuel gauge - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
#7. Gauge Gremlin - from Jay Miller
#8. Re: Gauge Gremlin - from Stan Shaw III
#9. Re: [E36M3] Head Unit antenna - from Paul Elliott
#10. Re: JTD RSM - IWITFG (installing while intoxicated, thus - from Paul Elliott
#11. A032's in the Rain - from Rob Jackowitz
#12. BTG JTD STN Rings URL - from S Lafredo

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#1. BTG NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT: JTD STN RINGS - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 17:54:22 -0500 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: BTG NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT: JTD STN RINGS Bavarian Technology Group is proud to announce that Jim Mihal of JT Designs has done it again with the release of his most innovative new product since the introduction of his rear shock tower mounts: The STN (pronounced "STUN") Tranny Rings. The newest addition to JT Designs' drive train product line, the STN Tranny Rings are the only effective alternative to using the JT Designs' high-performance transmission brace (JTD-0905). This CAD designed, CNC machined Active Transmission Mount System (ATMS) creates precise shifts under load and reduces the torsional powertrain movement that has been associated with missed shifts leading to costly over revved E36M3s. We have be refining, prototyping and testing this product for the last six months on our cars. Cars that we drive everyday. This product, like our rear shock tower mounts, is an improvement over the original factory design. Providing increased performance without sacrificing the comfort of your daily commute. Our "STN" rings do not require the use of 30 year-old transmission bushings from earlier model cars. They also do not require modifications to your factory transmission mounting bracket. Most importantly, they retain the BMW engineered alignment of your car's driveline. The STN Rings are guaranteed for life and are available through Bavarian Technology Group, Inc., the exclusive distributor of JT Designs high performance BMW aftermarket products. Initial supplies are limited so order now to take delivery before the holiday rush. MRSP for the STN Rings are $89. All orders received before the end of the year or until supplies run out, will receive the 20% holiday list discount. - CAD designed - CNC machined - Thoroughly tested - Precise shifts - ATMS, designed to eliminate powertrain movement that has been associated with missed shifts leading to costly over rev's - Does not require the use of 1970's transmission bushing from early model cars - Requires NO modifications to your car or drive line - Absolutely NO change in the height of your transmission bushings which would lead to misalignment of driveline and changes to the proper driveline angle - Easy removal and reinstallation for track/autocross should you choose to do so - Fits all E36 and E46 - Lifetime warranty Pictures of the new STN Tranny Rings will be uploaded to http://www.b-t-g.com/ shortly. Cheers, Jim E.

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#2. spacers - from russell
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: russell <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: spacers anyone know where i can get spacers...i probably need 5 or 10mm. i know ultimate garage sells them, but they seem a bit expensive. i've called various tire shops and noone sells them..... thanks russell 99 dakar (i'm in maryland) ===== "...extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."--bg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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#3. Help!  Removing rear seats... - from Brent Williams
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:16:16 +0100 From: "Brent Williams" <brent@williamsconsultingltd.com> Subject: Help! Removing rear seats... How do you remove those fold down rear seats from an E36? I am sure it has something to do with the center hinge, but I don't know what to do. Please help... Brent

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#4.   E36 M3 6-speed gearbox upgrade - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:29:16 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: <FS> E36 M3 6-speed gearbox upgrade ever wish your E36 M3 had the extra cool 6-speed gearbox like the euro counterpart? of course you do. however, parting with $6K (bekkers price, new) is hard to swallow. plus, you have to send your 5-speed in as a core as well. how about tried and true tested used one? anyone? i have 2-3 of these 6-speed gear boxes coming, used, from europe. price? should be approximately $3500 with all the parts. as far as i know, they do not require the 5-speed core, either, but i'll have to verify. shipping to where ever you are, of course, will be additional. SERIOUS parties only, first come, first serve. if i get more than 3, and you're the 4th, you'll be the next one in line. ben ------------------------------------------- ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com http://www.uucmotorwerks.com

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#5. Wheel Weights (LONG) - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:32:49 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Wheel Weights (LONG) Mark, Great website find (Ben Liaw would be proud). I imported this into Excel and did a little sorting to help identify wheels by weight. Here are the wheel for the sizes from 17" x 7" to 17" x 9" (sorted by size and then by the lightest) in case anyone else was wondering: Manufacturer Model Type Size Lbs SSR Integral Forged 17x7 16 BBS RK Cast (soft) 17x7 16.75 MOMO Superlight Forged 17x7 17 Racing Hart CP-8 - 17x7 17 Konig Tuner Cast 17x7 18 TGF MX - 17x7 18.25 Lenso VPD - 17x7 18.5 SSR RF Firrenze Forged 17x7 18.5 5-Zigen Inperio Mo5 - 17x7 19 SSR GP-Theta Forged 17x7 19 Tenzo-R Shu-4 - 17x7 19.5 Enkei Zoku Cast 17x7 19.8 Tenzo-R AV7 - 17x7 20 Konig Drift Cast 17x7 20.2 ADR ADR-39 Intercrew - 17x7 20.25 Tenzo-R Poke-10 - 17x7 20.25 ADR Revolution - 17x7 20.5 American Racing Pinz000etti - 17x7 20.5 ALT X-phile - 17x7 20.75 Axis Ne-O - 17x7 20.75 Nippon Racing Formula 1 - 17x7 20.75 Tenzo-R 2-Type - 17x7 20.75 AKT USA DTM FS-02 - 17x7 21 Borbet Type E - 17x7 21 Nippon Racing Evolution - 17x7 21 Nippon Racing Intertouring Cup - 17x7 21 Nippon Racing Taiko - 17x7 21 Konig Monsoon Cast 17x7 21 Speed Lite Racing Formula - 17x7 21.5 Stern Sports Line Liiva - 17x7 21.5 Axis Starz - 17x7 21.75 Nippon Racing Version 2 - 17x7 21.75 Nippon Racing Sassy - 17x7 22 ALT Slash - 17x7 22.25 Focal F5 - 17x7 22.25 Nippon Racing Hyperspeed - 17x7 22.25 Nippon Racing Indy Cup - 17x7 22.25 Panther Custom Wheels EMR 200 - 17x7 22.25 Enkei Inazuma - 17x7 22.5 Nippon Racing Version 5 - 17x7 22.75 ALT Seven - 17x7 23 Kosei S5R Cast 17x7 23 Nippon Racing Wishbone - 17x7 23 TR Motorsports Typhoon Cast 17x7 23 Billet Specialties E1 - 17x7 23.25 Fittipaldi 500 SS - 17x7 23.25 Mille Miglia Evo - 17x7 23.25 TSW Big Deep - 17x7 23.25 ADR Lightening - 17x7 23.5 Breyton Inspiration - 17x7 23.5 Stern Leacher - 17x7 23.5 Konig Rated-R Cast 17x7 23.75 Speedy Wheels Toskana - 17x7 24 Panther Custom Wheels EMR 175 - 17x7 24.5 Tecnomagnesio TM Sport - 17x7 24.75 OZ F1 Cup - 17X7 25 Raptor Racing MZ-1 - 17x7 25 Ultra Wheels Koge - 17x7 25 Niche Bella - 17x7 25.5 MHT Driv - 17x7 27.5 Konig GTR Cast 17X7 19.5 ROH Astron - 17x7.25 23.25 Volk SE 37K - 17x7.5 15 Volk TE-37 Forged 17X7.5 15 ADVAN "RG" Racing & Gym - 17x7.5 15.5 Konig DTM Cast 17X7.5 21 Konig Impact Cast 17X7.5 21 ABT-Sportsline V1 - 17x7.5 21.25 Team Dynamics Rim 2000 Blue - 17x7.5 21.25 Konig Cobra Cast 17X7.5 22 Team Dynamics Rim 2000 Anthracit- 17x7.5 22 Team Dynamics Rim 2000 Yellow - 17x7.5 22 ABT-Sportsline A-23 - 17x7.5 22.5 American Racing Carrera - 17x7.5 23 Detata Alloy Wheels DT-111 - 17x7.5 24 Niche Throttle (fwd) - 17x7.5 24.75 Ultra Wheels Vortec - 17x7.5 24.75 OZ F1 Plus - 17X7.5 26 ATP PT5 - 17x7.5 28.25 Detata Alloy Wheels DT-109 - 17x7.5 28.25 Borbet Type C Cast 17x7.5 29 Team Dynamics Rim 2000 White - 17x7.5 22 SSR Integral Forged 17x8 18 Kinesis Motorsport K5 - 17x8 19.5 Stern Intertouring - 17x8 23.5 ABT-Sportsline A-16 - 17x8 24.75 TSW Revo - 17x8 25.75 Detata Alloy Wheels DT-105 - 17x8 26 Fittipaldi AV3 - 17x8 27 MOMO Racer - 17x8 27.25 Enzo Cup - 17x8 28.75 Colorado Custom Palisade - 17x8 30.5 Mille Miglia MM 11 Sport - 17x8.5 22 ATP SPA - 17x8.5 25.75 International Forgings A5 - 17x9 17.5 SSR Integral S1 - 17x9 18.75 Stillen (by Enkei) GTV - 17x9 22.5 I noticed the International Forgings A5's were missing in the 17" x 8" size (a popular fitment for us E36M3 guys) which purportedly weigh in at about 18 lbs. Best regards, Rich 95 M3 with SSR Integral 18lbs each.

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#6. Dead fuel gauge - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:57:11 -0800 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Dead fuel gauge Chris wrote: From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> Subject: Gauge Gremlin Here's one for you: I filled up my fuel tank on my 95 M3 yesterday, then drove to a restaurant for dinner. When I came out an hour later and started the car, my fuel gauge was inop. Needle pegged on empty, and the low fuel light burning brightly. I cycled the ignition several times to no avail, so I just drove home and parked it. When I started the car this morning to go to work, the gas needle sprang right up to "Full" and everything seems fine now. Anyone ever seen that before? Me: this happened to me. Over a period of about 1 month the gauge would intermittently die when I filled up the car. Not because I had the keys in or the door open. It would then correct itself on the next start or something. About 2 months ago it die and hasn't come back. I'm just waiting for the opportune time to have the sender replaced off warranty for me. In the meantime I watch the average consumption and the miles. Go 250 miles for me and then I fill up. Regards, Marc 1995 M3

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#7. Gauge Gremlin - from Jay Miller
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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 16:16:51 PST From: "Jay Miller" <jjmiller6@hotmail.com> Subject: Gauge Gremlin It's one of the beauties an E36. Just pull the fuse for 10 seconds and it should resets itself. I think it's #31, it's on the end of the row. Or my home remedy: I just drive away and turn off the engine when I'm going in a STRAIGHT line and it resets, but remember there's a stearing wheel lock and you can't turn wheel! So I wouldn't recommend it. Jay '95 M3 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#8. Re: Gauge Gremlin - from Stan Shaw III
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:40:30 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw III" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: Gauge Gremlin The problem sounds like what I had before my guage stopped working altogether. Fortunately my car was under warranty at the time. My car is a '96 M3 Lux. Regards, Stan Shaw Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0407 Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net http://www.excell.net/

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Head Unit antenna - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:44:54 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Head Unit antenna Chester, >>I'm not sure if that's an urban legend or what. Like you, I could only see one pin for power to the antenna. I think the reason why aftermarket head units are not as good for radio reception has to do with a) the stock head unit is tuned to work with the car (the car's antenna, car's shielding, etc) and b) you lose the diversity antenna feature which the stock head unit used to pick the strongest of the two signals. Oh well, a compromise I suppose. << I agree...However, I do note that there is one separate, ie, out of the harness, antenna connector, plus the Powered antenna connection within the harness.. In my Kenwood headunit, there's the separate antenna lead, plus the blue wire for the motorized antenna within the harness. This blue wire, I believe connecs to the white, remote power wire in the BMW....I think my installer must have installed it, because when you dont, I've read that even turning on the rear defroster causes massive static in your fm....I have not a hint of that, so I think I'm ok. BTW, I just ordered the rest of my soundsystem upgrade to my stock, non HK system. So far, i've added a Kenwood Excelon Head Unit, a CD changer, and 2 Polk DX5510 mid woofers to the kick panel. To have installed a wk from saturday, I've ordered 2 Polk DX3000 tweeters for the doors, 2 JL Audio Stealthboxes for the rear deck, and a Kenwood Excelon Kac X501F 4 x 75 watt rms @ 4 ohm amp. I'm planning to drive the Polk components up front with 75 watts each channel, and bridging the 2 rear for 300 watts mono to drive the subs... What do you think? Everything I've read says this is the way to go...Sure, I could have substituted MB Quarts for the Polks, but I like the Polks, and the MB woofer in that config has a paper cone. But one thing I'm concerned about. Right now, with the stock amp, the Excelon HU, and the Polk mid woofers up front, the sound is damn good...Not great, but good. When I have the rest installed, the rear coaxials will be replaced by the subs, and hence, I'll lose all rear fill, which currently, adds alot of warmth or depth to the overall sound quality....I guess the theory is that once I put the powerful Excelon amp in and the better tweeters go team up with the Polks in the kick panel, the front set will more than provide enough sound detail, so that I wont miss the current 'color' provided by the stock rear coaxials. When the subs replace them, since the bass is directionless, the imaging will be all up front, and loaded with detail....if so, fine...But if I fade the current setup to front only, I definitely miss the color of the rears....I'm hoping that the better amp makes the sound up front so good, that I will never miss this...What do you think? Am I concerning myself about something which will not be an issue once the better amp goes in?? Or, should I consider taking the stock tweeters, which will become expendable when the new Polks tweeters go into the doors, and try to have them mounted on, in, or near the new stealthboxes, to maintain the rear color? Since I'd probably have run out of amp channels for the rear since I'm planning on having the 2 Excelon rears bridged to the subs for 300 w, I could always leave the stock amp in place, and use that to power the newly mounted rear tweeters?! Is this silly, and in danger of polluting the new clear sound with stock equipment? Or does it have merrit if I want to keep the rear fill? Or is rear fill really not necessary to a real good quality sound, when first class components are used? I just dont want it to sound relatively empty, as it does now, when I remove all rear sound..... Thanks el mucho!! _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3 <25000 mi Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift kit and Clutch Stop; Skaggs Pedals; X-brace; Sound by Kenwood Excelon, Polk, JL Audio -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: Paul Elliott <pelliott@rcn.com>; E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Head Unit antenna >I'm not sure if that's an urban legend or what. Like you, I could only see one >pin for power to the antenna. I think the reason why aftermarket head units >are not as good for radio reception has to do with a) the stock head unit is >tuned to work with the car (the car's antenna, car's shielding, etc) and b) you >lose the diversity antenna feature which the stock head unit used to pick the >strongest of the two signals. Oh well, a compromise I suppose. > >Chester > >BTW, I finally installed the HID in the passenger side tonight. Wowee!!! > >--- Paul Elliott <pelliott@rcn.com> wrote: >> I read that one of the reasons reception often suffers for people when they >> install aftermarket receivers has to do with the amplified stock antenna >> connection....It is said that installers often do not power the antenna when >> they connect up the new unit....In the wiring diagram, all I see is one >> antenna pinout: #16. >> >> Are there 2 lines which must connect to the antenna, the normal antenna >> line, and a powered line, or just one? > > >===== > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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#10. Re: JTD RSM - IWITFG (installing while intoxicated, thus - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:58:10 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: JTD RSM - IWITFG (installing while intoxicated, thus Sure wt....But wt hardly causes a loss in HP....I misunderstood... Besides, I doubt very much that replacing my stock amp with the Excelon, and replacing the rear coaxials with 8" subs will cause anymore than a 10-25 lb differential....Hardly enough to bog me down.... _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3 <25000 mi Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift kit and Clutch Stop; Skaggs Pedals; X-brace; Sound by Kenwood Excelon, Polk, JL Audio -----Original Message----- From: George M. Kofman <sdg2@execpc.com> To: Paul Elliott <pelliott@rcn.com> Cc: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: Re: JTD RSM - IWITFG (installing while intoxicated, thus >Paul; > >> George, >> >> >>BTW, did you know that you could easily pick up an extra 1-2 HP by >dumping >> the HIFI system ?<< >> >> How or Why?? > >WEIGHT. while weight is good if you are looking at jewelery, diamonds, >etc., it is very bad when it comes to sports(or sporty) cars (or female >companions). Ever driven a 1200# car with 125HP ? It is faster than a >stock E36M3 around a 4 mile, 14 turn road course (Road America). Of course >you will have trouble getting a passenger to fit into the single seat >cockpit. > >This is what the Lotus people rave about all the time. Lightness. Granted >the reliability is an issue, but the sheer power to weight ratio helps in >and out of the twisties. > >> I find out that my stereo will be robbing my power gains? What >gives....We >> M3 owners are sure a contradictory breed! > >... us as a people are a contraqdictory breed. just look at the >elections..... > >GMK >'97 MMM/4 (!=LTW: HK hifi w/ CD, OBC, SR, Heated Seats, Keyless, and Arm >Rest ) >pretty bone stock, except for: x-brace, jtd rsm (maintenance) and >PF90's/A032R;'s/Schroth Rallye-4 for the track. > >> _____________________________ >> Paul Elliott >> '99 Alpine White M3; <25000 mi; Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan >Stage >> II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift Kit and clutch stop; Skaags pedals >> >> >

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#11. A032's in the Rain - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:18:47 -0500 From: Rob Jackowitz <rjme@msn.com> Subject: A032's in the Rain Does anyone have any experience running these in rain? It looks like I'll be running my Friday track event in the wet and was wondering how these compare with Michelin MXX3's in the rain. How are they in standing water for say the trip up to the track? Thanks for your feedback. Rob BTW, just got my '97 back from dealer service and they performed a new front airbag recall campaign. Something having to do with reprogramming the MRS control module. News to me.

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#12. BTG JTD STN Rings URL - from S Lafredo
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:23:03 -0500 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@b-t-g.com> Subject: BTG JTD STN Rings URL Here is the URL for the JT Designs' STN Rings http://b-t-g.com/html/product/JTD1100.html Enjoy. Stephen --------------------------------oOo-------------------------------- Stephen Lafredo slafredo@b-t-g.com Bavarian Technology Group, Inc. http:// b-t-g.com

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