E36M3 #694

Friday, November 10, 2000 15:12:42

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#1. brake bleeder - from Patrick Sarne
#2. 95 M3 - from Burgess, Kim L
#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: wheel weights -BBS - from Sean W. Smith
#4. Re: Sorry for the multiple posts - from Sue Kraft
#5. Roundel article - from Jay
#6. Re: HP to Weight - from Paul Agustin
#7. Re: [E36M3] Roundel article - from Mark Radelow
#8. Re: '95 vs. '96+ Control Arm Bushings - from Neil Maller
#9. RE: [E36M3] Help w/brake bleeder kit, please? (new member speaks - from Jim.Millet@intermec.com
#10. RE: [E36M3] Where to buy brake/trans/diff fluids? - from Jim Bassett
#11. Garage cleaning time - from Steve Walsh
#12. re: brake bleeder kits and headlamp refinishing - from scott yu
#13. [E36M3] Re: S50 Compresion Ratio, VANOS - from RogRacer@aol.com
#14. Re: [E36M3] Roundel article - from Mdriver13@aol.com

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#1. brake bleeder - from Patrick Sarne
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:04:33 -0800 From: Patrick Sarne <PatrickS@HoyleDonnelly.com> Subject: brake bleeder Hi Scott, Bavarian Auto has a bleeder for under $50 (I think I paid $35). Ask them about the deal that they had for the bleeder and 2 bottles of ATE Super Blue. It was like getting one bottle for free. Patrick Sarne 1995 M3 Scott asks: <<Does anyone have any recommendations for an inexpensive (say, 50 bucks) bleeder kit?>>

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#2. 95 M3 - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:10:11 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <Kim.Burgess@PSS.Boeing.com> Subject: 95 M3 Bora - I believe the 1995 M3 is a 3.0L OBI engine that runs slightly higher compression (and perhaps "hotter" spark advance curve) than the later 3.2L OBII engine. KLBurgess 99M3/2 sometimes wishing I had an OBI car!!!

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: wheel weights -BBS - from Sean W. Smith
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:22:29 -0500 From: "Sean W. Smith" <seansmith@nc.rr.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: wheel weights -BBS Here's a detailed spreadsheet from BBS with all wheel weights. RK 17x8's for M3 are ~17 lbs.... Sean > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob [mailto:motor@cadvision.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:46 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: wheel weights -BBS > > > Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 01:14:48 -0700 > From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> > Subject: Re: wheel weights -BBS > > Rich, > excellent post re wheels weights but I notice you omitted Fikse wheels and > many BBS's. I know my 17x8" RK's are less than 20lbs and so are the RC's. > Even the new CH's are quite light. > > Rob > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: Sorry for the multiple posts - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:28:53 -0600 From: Sue Kraft <SKRAFT1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: Sorry for the multiple posts I noticed a few other posts that showed up three times also, so I think it may have just been a hiccup in the mailing list software. Suzy LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > Sorry for the multiple posts. I really did not post my JTD question 3 > times. > And I certainly did not send them at 9:00 am. It is kind of late for > > gremlins, Halloween is over. I'm trying this new AOL 6.0. That may > be my > problem. I know several of my recent posts have looked horrible. > Thanks for > the replies. > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3/2 > Dallas, Texas

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#5. Roundel article - from Jay
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:27:43 -0700 From: jay@pactitle.com (Jay) Subject: Roundel article Have any of you members of the bmwcc opened up the latest issue of Roundel and read about the almighty e46M3. Sure it's a great car. But they make are e36M3s sound as though they were just built to give them time to build the real thing. They mention that are cars lacked the driving pleasure of the e30s. In fact I don't think one nice thing was said about are beloved e36M3s. For once in my life I'm glad I can't afford something. I would hate to part with my 95 jc chipped and intaked M3. And with two kids entering college I'll probably drive it until it turns to dust, enjoying every minute of it. Jay Johnson

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#6. Re: HP to Weight - from Paul Agustin
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:42:51 -0600 From: Paul Agustin <agustin@iaxs.net> Subject: Re: HP to Weight Jim is right, or really close. It's actually 7.5lbs equals one HP. So those 20lbs that George was talking about is equal to 2.67 HP, not much in the real world. On a track that can be just enough of an edge though to get you in front and stay there. Making your car 300+lbs lighter now that would be awesome, it would get you about 40HP more in the HPcolumn theoretically. OK I'm done babbling and ya'll can flame away ifn you want. Paul Agustin

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Roundel article - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:40:25 GMT From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Roundel article Regardless of what they or any magazine say, the E36 M3 is (IMHO) the epitomy of what a high performance street car should be. Fast, awesome handling, not too expensive, reliable, and somewhat compliant on "real" streets. Of course anytime the replacement of something comes out people just trash the former car in comparison to the new car. In terms of speed it will be interesting to see how much faster the new M3 really is. I was looking at the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times on the new M3. 4.8 is fast but the 1/4 time was around 13.5 which is only .5 second faster than a stock E36. At 100mph that's a distance of 73 feet or about 4 car lengths...not that much of an ass whooping. A intaked/chipped E36 would be even closer too. With that said the E46 is still an awesome car. Mark 95 M3 91 GTI 16v From: jay@pactitle.com (Jay) Reply-To: jay@pactitle.com (Jay) To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Subject: [E36M3] Roundel article Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:05:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:27:43 -0700 From: jay@pactitle.com (Jay) Subject: Roundel article Have any of you members of the bmwcc opened up the latest issue of Roundel and read about the almighty e46M3. Sure it's a great car. But they make are e36M3s sound as though they were just built to give them time to build the real thing. They mention that are cars lacked the driving pleasure of the e30s. In fact I don't think one nice thing was said about are beloved e36M3s. For once in my life I'm glad I can't afford something. I would hate to part with my 95 jc chipped and intaked M3. And with two kids entering college I'll probably drive it until it turns to dust, enjoying every minute of it. Jay Johnson ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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#8. Re: '95 vs. '96+ Control Arm Bushings - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:07:01 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: '95 vs. '96+ Control Arm Bushings on 11/10/00 11:16, E36M3 at e36m3@bmwmpower.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 07:47:32 -0500 > From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> > > Somebody tell me again... are the '95 lower control arm bushings > different in hardness or offset from later M3s? > -- > Ron Katona Yep - the 95 bushings are offset, the 96+ aren't. Neil 96 M3

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Help w/brake bleeder kit, please? (new member speaks - from Jim.Millet@intermec.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:54:16 -0600 From: Jim.Millet@intermec.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help w/brake bleeder kit, please? (new member speaks up from MA) > Anyway, I think it's time to replace the brake fluid and bleed my > brakes. Does anyone have any recommendations for an inexpensive (say, 50 > bucks) bleeder kit?> Check out the Motive Products Power Bleeder: http://www.motiveproducts.com/index.htm It's an clone of Jim Powell's DIY bleeder. At $44.95 plus shipping that should bring you in at your $50 target. If you don't mind using your spare tire as an air pressure source and filling up the fluid container a couple of times then take a look at the Eezibleeder for around $29.95: http://autoexpertproducts.webjump.com/ Usual disclaimers apply. YMMV Jim Millet 1995 M3, Hellrot, Sharked and much more.

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Where to buy brake/trans/diff fluids? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:40:08 -0800 From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Where to buy brake/trans/diff fluids? > Good morning, everyone. Besides searching thru all the local > autopart stores, is there a good place on the web or via catalogs > to order the following fluids: > > Brake Fluid - ATE Blue Several on-line/mailorder places carry Super Blue: The Ultimate Garage (http://www.ultimategarage.com/) Rocky Mountain Motorworks (http://motorworks.com/) Bav Auto(?) BMP Designs(?) > Transmission Oil - Redline D4ATF > Diff Oil - Redline 75/90 I know I/O Port Racing carries Red Line & ships (http://www.ioportracing.com/) Red Line's site also has a list of dealers (http://www.redlineoil.com/) I get my Red Line fluids at a local (SF Bay Area) race shop. If you let us know where you live, someone may have a suggestion where you can find it locally. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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#11. Garage cleaning time - from Steve Walsh
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:39:21 -0800 From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> Subject: Garage cleaning time Anybody wanna buy a pair of stock '97 M3 rear shocks (about 10K use) - $50 Or a stock '97 M3 cooling fan and fan clutch? - make an offer? Or a '97 M3 stock exhaust (about 10K use) - $200 Or a pair of '95 M3 upper strut bearings ? (almost new) - $100 pr Or a pair of Dinan 325/328/Z3 camber plates (5/8 deg. of add. camber) - $175 ** combine with the 95 strut bearings (rotated 120 deg.) for -3.7 deg camber !! Or a Mich. 225/45x17 tire (about half worn) - $50 Or a stock '95 M3 airbox with K&N filter (and filter charge kit) $30 All parts are in Redwood City, CA. I'll deliver to the Bay Area. Else buyer pays shipping. If you want something, feel free to make a better offer :) Street car crap has to make room for race car crap.

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#12. re: brake bleeder kits and headlamp refinishing - from scott yu
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:44:01 -0500 From: "scott yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: re: brake bleeder kits and headlamp refinishing Hey gang, Thanks to you folks for the kind replies regarding brake bleeder ktis - this list kicks all kinds of butt. As for refinishing headlamps, a few folks expressed curiosity, so I hope this info can be of use. (All of you fat cats with euro lamps can sit back and gloat. ;) The process originated with me being way too cheap to buy new headlamps, but too picky to live with the pitted and hazed clear polycarb. Cheap and picky - what an unfortunate combination! Anyway, I've described the technique in a poorly-organized and hard-to-read webpage - in the likely event that something I said doesn't make sense or if you have any further questions, feel free to send me a mail. Here's the URL: http://geocities.com/segascott/index.htm Take it easy folks, scott yu 97 m3/2 boston, ma

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#13. [E36M3] Re: S50 Compresion Ratio, VANOS - from RogRacer@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:38:34 EST From: RogRacer@aol.com Subject: [E36M3] Re: S50 Compresion Ratio, VANOS <<<daanesh writes about the compression ratio of '95 M3s>>> The factory spec for the S50 US version is 10:5:1...the 10:8:1 you site _may_ be for the Euro motors. BTW, what Josh told me regarding the S50 related only to early build motors....around when the Lightweight motors were being built...he thought the factory may have milled the heads on the high-side keeping CRs up. No real evidence of this, however, that I am aware of.....Josh mentioned that JC had trouble developing chips for the Lightweights because of this, and more aggressive timing maps for some of these motors actually lost horsepower....This is why JC has an alternate chip available for Euro HFM M3s..... Now a question: is anybody running this "alternate" version chip with their Euro Intake? I'm still waiting for mine, and I was wondering if somebody may have actually dynoed the two versions.... Now another question (sorry!) for daanesh: How "bad" was the "ping" in your motor before the VANOS rebuild, and what are the OTHER symptoms of a bad VANOS??? Roger W. Graves RogRacer@aol.com '95 M3...ping a little better with right heat range plugs, but still there!

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#14. Re: [E36M3] Roundel article - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:52:50 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Roundel article In a message dated 11/10/00 12:06:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, jay@pactitle.com writes: << In fact I don't think one nice thing was said about are beloved e36M3s. For once in my life I'm glad I can't afford something. I would hate to part with my 95 jc chipped and intaked M3. >> Let's remember, with any new car introduction, there is always the media blitz! They have to sell these things, you know. Let's not forget ALL the auto mags back in 1995 through about 1997 that couldn't say enough great things about our beloved e36M3. I recall the Car and Driver edition (or was it Road and Track), that pitted the M3 against the likes of Ferrari, and Corvette,......and whipped them all badly ;-)) The e46M3 will be a great car as well. But, I love my e36M3 too!!!!! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 mov'in to ESP in '01

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