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#1. Re: [E36M3] Free Forms again - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:58:21 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Free Forms again I had the Hella freeforms sitting in my house for a while. IMO, I think the ZKWs are better in terms of quality. The reflectors on the ZKWs are metal whereas the reflectors on the Hellas are plastic....and they look pretty sh*tty too. Of course, in terms of efficiency, freeforms are supposed to be better because they don't waste energy bouncing the light back and forth like a projector lamp. The only downside is if you want to retrofit HIDs...they scatter light just like the stock lamps. And finally, from an aesthetics point of view (totally my opinion), the projector lamps look so much nicer than the freeforms...and the Hellas were certainly weird looking. FWIW, Chester --- daanesh chanduwadia <daanesh@hotmail.com> wrote: > last time i checked with paul at P.U.M.A. (800.354.3552) he said he could > abtain the Hella Free Form Reflector units. they were about 80 bucks more > than the Ellipsoids if memory serves. > : > -Are the lights that all the vendors sell the same? > : > : I believe the lights are either made by ZKW or Hella. > > ZKW and Bosch ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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#2. M3 wheels Offset - from Smith Joe
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:08:49 -0800 (PST) From: Smith Joe <mailjtan@yahoo.com> Subject: M3 wheels Offset Does anyone know what is the offset of the M3 stock 8.5 and 7.5 wide wheels? Thanks, Joe. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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#3. Short shifter and selector rod - from Wen Liew
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:27:05 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Short shifter and selector rod Six months ago, I installed Ron Stygar's bent MZ3 shift lever and found that while the shifts were shorter, I had difficulty getting into 1st and R at times. So, after a few months, I added Ron's bent selector rod and I'm surprised at what difference a few 10ths of an inch can make. With an adjustable clutch stop and a heavier BMW wooden/chrome ring shift knob, the shifts feel like a hot knife cutting through butter. For me, it ranks up there with the "rebadged Eibach" sway bars. Wen _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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#4. RE: Mystery "clunk" coming from front of M3/4 - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:31:17 -0500 From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> Subject: RE: Mystery "clunk" coming from front of M3/4 I guess I should have clarified... It's a '98 M3/4 with ~27K miles. My only suspension modification is the Eibach sways I installed ~6 months ago (first group purchase and late install). I've also installed the X-brace (who hasn't?) and the UUC Tranny Mount Enforcers with 320i mounts. I re-checked the X-Brace, and Tranny mount last night and they are rock-solid. I also re-checked the sway bar and found that on the left (driver's) side, I was able to wiggle the sway bar arm (the portion that comes back and attaches to the end-link) up/down a _miniscule_ amount (by pushing up and pulling down on the arm; but, enough to notice (by feel, not by visual observance) that it had moved. So I'm guessing that the link(s) are shot... Anybody have torque specs for when I re-attach new links (particularly for the upper attachment at the strut, I should be able to re-locate the lower spec from my notes when I installed the bars...) Thx, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:27 PM To: E36M3 Cc: DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com Subject: Re: Mystery "clunk" coming from front of M3/4 on 12/5/00 19:43, "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> wrote: > > I know this is probably not going to be easy; but, I'm trying to track-down > a "clunk" that has developed in the front (I believe it's suspension > related)... It occurs when I encounter uneven pavement/bumps/dips/etc... I > put it up on the jack last night figuring that it was the sway bar/links, no > luck... They were solid as rocks (unless they get loose when the suspension > is loaded; but, the connections looked and felt tight as the day I put them > on... You don't say what year your car is, how many miles it has, whether it gets track use, or if you've modified the suspension. Would have been helpful... The highest probability is still the swaybar links. If you're sure they are securely bolted - not always easy to tell - then the links' ball joints may simply be worn out. Mine were. You definitely can't tell if they have internal play without removing them, and even a small amount of looseness makes surprisingly loud knocking sounds. Neil 96 M3
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#5. RE: [E36M3] M3 LTW Rear Wing at Hendrick BMW - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:43:52 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 LTW Rear Wing at Hendrick BMW Yes, somebody from the list did get it, me. I wanted to have some of the original parts for a LTW just for spares and this was a deal that I could not pass up. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com -----Original Message----- From: David Hogg [mailto:springwood@blazenet.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:43 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] M3 LTW Rear Wing at Hendrick BMW Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:02:59 -0800 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: M3 LTW Rear Wing at Hendrick BMW >Just wanted to let people know that this spoiler has been sold. They sold it with the inserts for $500.< Wow! A dealer leaving lots of money on the table! Doesn't happen too often. I hope someone from this list got the piece. Dave Hogg ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. *************************************************************
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#6. Beeping sound from console? - from dahermann@alum.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:12:13 -0500 (EST) From: dahermann@alum.mit.edu Subject: Beeping sound from console? Over the course of the last two weeks or so, I've heard an occasional three distinct beeps come from what sounds like the left side of the instrument cluster on my 96 M3. I suppose it's coming from the left speakers since there's probably not anything that generates sound in the instrument cluster. The first few times I heard it, I thought it was either the radio or my over-active imagination. After hearing it immediately after starting my car yesterday, I'm pretty sure it's neither. The sound has occurred in a variety of situations. It usually occurs under partial throttle on the highway after about five minutes of driving. The OBC displays no messages when it occurs. The only thing I can find in the manual that might relate is the low temp warning which I've heard before (rarely as I live in Texas) and I don't think it sounds the same. Also, my external temp sensor is broken right now and always registers -35o, so I don't think I should hear a low temp warning after several minutes of driving, anyway. Any ideas what it might be? dan 96 M3 (with occasional beep)
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Beeping sound from console? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:51:02 -0800 From: "Jim Bassett" <jbassett@mayannetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Beeping sound from console? > Any ideas what it might be? Did you happen to notice at what time you hear the beeps? It could that the "Memo" function on the OBC is set, which will beep at 15 seconds before the hour. I don't think the main OBC display will show anything, but you can tell if this function is active by the "tone" symbol over the clock. (The other guess would be the Speed Limit setting, but that will flash the setting on the main OBC display when it's exceeded.) Just a guess, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - no beeps :-)
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Beeping sound from console? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 14:30:38 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Beeping sound from console? ah... winter... the car beeps when the outside temp drops to 39 or lower. and it beeps on engine startup if the outside temp is already 39 or lower. >From: dahermann@alum.mit.edu >Reply-To: dahermann@alum.mit.edu >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> >Subject: [E36M3] Beeping sound from console? >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:32:59 -0600 > >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:12:13 -0500 (EST) >From: dahermann@alum.mit.edu >Subject: Beeping sound from console? > >Over the course of the last two weeks or so, I've >heard an occasional three distinct beeps come >from what sounds like the left side of the >instrument cluster on my 96 M3. I suppose it's >coming from the left speakers since there's >probably not anything that generates sound in the >instrument cluster. > >The first few times I heard it, I thought it was >either the radio or my over-active imagination. >After hearing it immediately after starting my >car yesterday, I'm pretty sure it's neither. The >sound has occurred in a variety of situations. >It usually occurs under partial throttle on the >highway after about five minutes of driving. The >OBC displays no messages when it occurs. The >only thing I can find in the manual that might >relate is the low temp warning which I've heard >before (rarely as I live in Texas) and I don't >think it sounds the same. Also, my external temp >sensor is broken right now and always registers >-35o, so I don't think I should hear a low temp >warning after several minutes of driving, anyway. > >Any ideas what it might be? > >dan >96 M3 (with occasional beep) > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >************************************************************* > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] mega light wheel HEADS UP for E36 M3 owners... - from Daniel
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mega light wheel HEADS UP for E36 M3 owners... Ben, Its good of you to point out that the 'correct' 18" size for the E36M3 is 245/35/18 and that only 2 tire companies offer that size as of now (Pirelli and Goodyear) But if you looked at the stock 225/45/17 vs the 245/40/17 on the '96up M3s...you would note that the fronts are ,arginally larger (in diameter) than the rear...so a small cast 245/40/18 (Pilot Sports) or a larger cast 235/40/18 (AVS Sports) may come real close to the sotck front diameter. What do you think? I always find that going alittle bigger on the 18" sizes would be a better thing since if does afford the wheel alittle more protection from the poor Texas roads we have here in Houston Daniel --- Ben Liaw <ben@shortshifter.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:37:35 -0500 > From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: mega light wheel HEADS UP for E36 M3 > owners... > > when we were at SEMA this year, OZ Wheels showed a > new wheel which really > caught my attention (then again, most wheels catch > my attention). > > see the wheel i'm talking about here: > > http://www.ozwheels.com/cd4.html > > knowing full well that it may not be everybody's > taste, it *IS* extremely > lightweight. the published weights of the 17" > version is only 15.4 lbs. and > 18" version is 17.62 lbs. > > they're planning on 17x8 and 18x9 for the E36/E46 > fitments, but TireRack has > IN STOCK, the 18x8 (the correct size for E36 > M3s...i'll get to this in a > moment). retail price (according to OZ Wheels) for > the 18" was $450, but in > typical Tire Rack fashion, they're discounted to a > mere $350. The only have > 7 sets left. If you like these wheels, i'd suggest > you contact Brian at > 800-981-3943 x 352. I'm sure they'll go quickly. > Tell him UUC sent you > (not sure you'll get anything but worth a shot). > They're only shipping from > their IN warehouse. > > Ok, a little on wheels on the E36 M3. Whereas there > are tons of 17" sizes > avialable (7.5", 8", 8.5" and 9"), for 18", you're > actually limited by tire > size (not wheel width). > > In 18" tires, choices are limited for ones that > provide MAXIMUM tread width > with the correct aspect ratio. Whereas a 225/40R18 > fits, it's a little > skinny on an E36 M3. Also, a 225 looks silly on an > 8.5" rim. The best fit > would be the 245 on an 8.5" wide rim, as equipped on > 96+ M3s. > > Then, consider the 235 (equipped on the 95 M3 on > 7.5" wide rims). Most know > that the rims were a little too skinny for the 235, > but they worked. The > 96+ fitment of 225 fits much more neutral on the > 7.5" wide rim. So, the > best is an 8" wide rim. Fortunately, the OZ is 18x8 > (and not 8.5). The > near perfect size is 235/35R18 (-1% too small) as > the 235/40R18s (2.8% too > big) is not as good a match. > > A 245 you ask? They'd be too fat for the front, and > fit a little funny on > the 8" wide rim. Plus, they don't make a 245/35R18 > (which would be only > +0.1% bigger than a 245/40R17 in comparision) > > Besides the increase in cost of 18" tires, the sizes > are limited. As i > mentioned, you can use the 225/40R18, but you're > giving up some avialable > grip. In this size, Tire Rack shows 33 tires as > little as $140 each. In > the better sized, 235/35R18, Tire Rack shows a > whopping 3 choices, starting > at $222 (of course, my dry tire favoriate, the > MXX3). > > Last note, not all 18" tire/wheel upgrades need to > be compromises in weight > (for cosmetic gains). a stock M Contour wheel and > tire weighs just south of > 50 lbs. (around 48 lbs.), where as this OZ > Superleggra and MXX3 (23 lbs. > only) combo will weigh close to just 40 lbs, a near > 30 lbs. total savings in > rotating weight on a E36 M3. > > ben > ------------------------------------------- > ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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#10. Re: [E36M3] mega light wheel HEADS UP for E36 M3 owners... - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:17:01 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mega light wheel HEADS UP for E36 M3 owners... > Its good of you to point out that the 'correct' 18" > size for the E36M3 is 245/35/18 and that only 2 tire > companies offer that size as of now (Pirelli and > Goodyear) what? i never said a 245/35R18 was correct. i said that a 235/35R18 (note the "235") was the correct size. don't take my word for it...go to tirerack.com. they've *STILL* have THREE choices. > But if you looked at the stock 225/45/17 vs the > 245/40/17 on the '96up M3s...you would note that the > fronts are ,arginally larger (in diameter) than the > rear...so a small cast 245/40/18 (Pilot Sports) or a > larger cast 235/40/18 (AVS Sports) may come real close > to the sotck front diameter. ok, here goes: 225/45R17: 24.97" diameter 245/40R17 24.75" diameter these only differ by in diameters by 0.9% (yes, less than 1%). 245/40R18 25.72" diameter (2.91% larger than 225/45R17) 235/40R18 25.40" diameter (1.69% larger than 225/45R17) i know for a fact that on my '96 M3, a difference in diameter of *ONLY* 1.29% caused the ASC+T to come on at 80mph (yes, on perfectly dry roads). the difference between the front/rear tires (at only a 1.29% difference) was enough to trigger the ASC+T to think that the rear were slipping. so, my lesson learned was stay the same size all around (which i'm planning on doing) or keep it stock sizes. > What do you think? see above. > I always find that going alittle bigger on the 18" > sizes would be a better thing since if does afford the > wheel alittle more protection from the poor Texas > roads we have here in Houston well, if you've got bad roads, you can always drop down to some 16" sizes...i'm sure there's a 50 series tire that will fit. ben liaw http://www.uucmotorwerks.com