E36M3 #778

Monday, December 18, 2000 00:42:55

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. No Clearcoat on Red? - from Paul Elliott
#2. Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from Matt Henson
#3. Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... - from Jim Powell
#4. Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... - from Bora Akyol
#5. Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from Daniel
#6. Re: Clutches - from Jason Leung
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Clutches - from NickG
#8. Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from dbruce
#9. RE: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from Matt Malfa
#10. M3 vs 325i control arm bushings? - from Rob

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#1. No Clearcoat on Red? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:47:51 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: No Clearcoat on Red? Mat, >>Maybe that no-wax thing was just mis-information I got at bimmer.org. So is it true that BMW only recommends carnuba, not polymer (Meguiars) wax?<< I think Ben's post clears it up....But as far as not waxing clearcoats go, fugeddaboudit.....That's just marketing bs. Its paint, and any paint could use protection. Concerning Carnuba vs Polymer, Larry Reynolds of CarCareSpecialties.com fame makes it clear that BMW paints will tend to cloud under polymer treatments, and should only be protected with carnubas. _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3 <25000 mi Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift kit and Clutch Stop; Skaggs Pedals; X-brace; Sound by Kenwood Excelon, Polk, JL Audio

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#2. Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 15:55:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? Thanks Ben, this what I was looking for! Regards, Matt --- Ben Liaw <ben@shortshifter.com> wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:34:42 -0500 > From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? > > bmw used single stage paints on the 95 model year > M3s on two colors...red > and dakar yellow. everything else has clearcoat. > of course, in 96 and on, > EVERYTHING has clearcoat. > > ben > ------------------------------------------- > ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Henson" <hensonator@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 11:52 AM > Subject: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:48:15 -0800 (PST) > > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > > Subject: No Clearcoat on Red? > > > > Hey All, > > Which colors have no clearcoat? I understand that > > Dakar doesn't and, based on yesterday's hand wax, > > neither does the red. BMW recommends not to wax > the > > clearcoat paints but the single stage paints have > to > > be waxed, right? BTW, after the Mother's Step 1 > > cleaner (only once a year) and step 3 wax it looks > > absolutly great. It was really fading and kinda > > turning orangish. Now it's much deeper and just > > beautiful. > > > > Anyway, maybe someone in the know can fill me in.. > > which paints should be waxed? > > -Matt > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... - from Jim Powell
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 15:55:53 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... Could be a dirty volume control but not likely. More likely is a cold solder or one stage of the preamp going out and coming back. You've always wanted a Blau Toronto anyway, haven't you? Jim "Ben C. Tickner" wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:04:40 -0800 > From: "Ben C. Tickner" <ben@infofusion.com> > Subject: Radio loses Volume.... > > What could this possibly be? > > My radio will sometimes lose about 15 clicks in volume. So naturally I have > to turn it up higher to listen to the radio. This will last for days and > suddenly go back to normal by itself. What should I be looking for. Is this > a problem with the factory amps? Is it something simple like a fuse or > relay? > > Thanks > Ben 95 M3 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:32:59 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... I would run away from the Blau Toronto. I had one (really two) in my Porsche and they skipped like hell. I sent the first one in and got back a replacement. Same problem, brake hard and got the CD skipping. Other than that they were fine. If the color of lighting was not a concern, I would highly recommend Eclipse by Fujitsu Ten products. Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@home.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 15:55:53 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radio loses Volume.... > > Could be a dirty volume control but not likely. More likely is a cold solder > or one stage of the preamp going out and coming back. You've always wanted a > Blau Toronto anyway, haven't you? > > Jim > > "Ben C. Tickner" wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:04:40 -0800 > > From: "Ben C. Tickner" <ben@infofusion.com> > > Subject: Radio loses Volume.... > > > > What could this possibly be? > > > > My radio will sometimes lose about 15 clicks in volume. So naturally I have > > to turn it up higher to listen to the radio. This will last for days and > > suddenly go back to normal by itself. What should I be looking for. Is this > > a problem with the factory amps? Is it something simple like a fuse or > > relay? > > > > Thanks > > Ben 95 M3 > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from Daniel
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:44:24 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? I think the very early '95M3s (4/94 production) white cars had the single stage paint also Daniel --- Ben Liaw <ben@shortshifter.com> wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:34:42 -0500 > From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? > > bmw used single stage paints on the 95 model year > M3s on two colors...red > and dakar yellow. everything else has clearcoat. > of course, in 96 and on, > EVERYTHING has clearcoat. > > ben > ------------------------------------------- > ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Henson" <hensonator@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 11:52 AM > Subject: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:48:15 -0800 (PST) > > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > > Subject: No Clearcoat on Red? > > > > Hey All, > > Which colors have no clearcoat? I understand that > > Dakar doesn't and, based on yesterday's hand wax, > > neither does the red. BMW recommends not to wax > the > > clearcoat paints but the single stage paints have > to > > be waxed, right? BTW, after the Mother's Step 1 > > cleaner (only once a year) and step 3 wax it looks > > absolutly great. It was really fading and kinda > > turning orangish. Now it's much deeper and just > > beautiful. > > > > Anyway, maybe someone in the know can fill me in.. > > which paints should be waxed? > > -Matt > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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#6. Re: Clutches - from Jason Leung
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:53:41 -0600 From: Jason Leung <jleung20@flash.net> Subject: Re: Clutches Matt Henson wrote: > Kit, > I would expect the stock clutch to be okay for a S/C. > It's peak torque, not HP that causes the clutch to > slip. I have a turbo which makes much more torque > than the S/C (but no more HP) and the stock clutch > seems to hold pretty well. I think that the > reasonable upgrade is to get a Sachs PowerClutch, > which is supposedly around $600. You can also get an > AA, which is probably the same thing, for $1k. > Regards, > Matt Actually Matt, its not the same thing. I've had the opportunity to examine both units outside of the car and I notice both similarities and differences. One thing to remember about the AA clutch is that it eliminates the springs. Anyways, I have the AA clutch. The first thing you'll find about this clutch is that it is *STIFF*. The second thing you'll find is that it is still very very very streetable, unlike 3 or 5 puck style clutches. After a while, you get used to the clutch. To me, all stock clutches short of the clutch on a stick-shift Chevy Tahoe feel like wussy-accelerator-pedals. ;-) Anyways, this clutch has so far been able to take the output of my motor, which has been dynoed at 417 lb-ft of torque to the wheels (506 lb-ft at the crank), for 10,000 miles. Then again, I don't abuse the clutch. I know people local to Miami that have tried all sorts of clutches with motors very similar to mine, one gentleman I know destroyed the Sachs HD clutch in 2 weeks. Jason Leung 92 332i turbo http://www.detailwerkschicago.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Clutches - from NickG
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 21:44:29 -0500 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Clutches > Actually Matt, its not the same thing. I've had the > opportunity to examine both units outside of the car > and I notice both similarities and differences. > One thing to remember about the AA clutch is that > it eliminates the springs. Jason, Which springs are you referring to, the ones in the hub of the clutch disc? If so, the factory clutch doesn't use springs there anyway. I believe the dual mass flywheel takes the place of them (with its ability to dampen shock loads). Do they eliminate some other springs in the system? Nick

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#8. Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from dbruce
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 22:46:58 -0500 From: dbruce <dbrucepoip@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? Since my production date is 9/95 I assume they switched to a clearcoat mid/late production in 95. Learn something new everyday. On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:22:27 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:34:42 -0500 >From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? > >bmw used single stage paints on the 95 model year M3s on two colors...red >and dakar yellow. everything else has clearcoat. of course, in 96 and on, >EVERYTHING has clearcoat.

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#9. RE: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? - from Matt Malfa
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:05:07 -0500 From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? At some point around the middle of 9/95, 95MY M3's picked up several 96MY features (i.e. newer head unit, sunroof closure from door locks), so it is conceivable that clearcoat would also have been on that list of updates. OTOH, I have seen cars with those 96MY features but WITHOUT the hardened valve retainers (which I believe were changed 10/95), go figure. - -Matt -----Original Message----- From: dbruce [mailto:dbrucepoip@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 10:52 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 22:46:58 -0500 From: dbruce <dbrucepoip@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] No Clearcoat on Red? Since my production date is 9/95 I assume they switched to a clearcoat mid/late production in 95.

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#10. M3 vs 325i control arm bushings? - from Rob
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:42:55 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: M3 vs 325i control arm bushings? It is probably time for replacement and I notice a difference in part # and price from standard E36 325i to E36 M3 front lower control arm bushings. What are the real differences? I remember the E30 M3 bushings were offset for more caster and also stiffer than the standard E30 325i bushings. Are the O.E. E36 M3 bushings the best ones to use for a daily driver or should I look into and aftermarket unit? Happy ///Motoring Rob

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