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#1. M3 vs. - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:06:27 -0600 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: M3 vs. Rob simply wanted to know how an equally prepared E36M3(content)stacks up against a rival Porsche. Why is that so off topic? If someone is considering racing an M3 and wants to know how it matches up against other cars, this would seem like an appropriate forum. After all, it comes down to strengths and weakness of an E36M3 compared to a 944. The way I read it, he posted about a Porsche in the context of E36M3's. The M3 is a great car because it is great relative to the rest of the cars available to choose from. I would like to hear opinions of why an M3 is better or not than brand X. I for one thought it was an interesting question. aj -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 06:10:54 -0600 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs Porsche 944t If you know this is a BMW list, why do you post about Porsche??? I guess I need to start screening the posts again. Suzy
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#2. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs BoxsterS - from JSDONE@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:37:04 EST From: JSDONE@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs BoxsterS I love my 98 M3 convertable and have always been so impressed with it's qualities but my eye has already been on the Boxster... I have the means to up my toy purchases and would like someone to help me decide this change. The standard Boxster has no guts. I would get the Boxster S and would like to know if anyone has had experience to compare the two cars. This decision is not about space or the rear seat. This is about all the good stuff about a hot rod convertable. I do not want to miss the brakes, handling and quickness of the M3.. How does the 98 E-36 M3 convertable stack up to the Boxster s... O.K. let me have it........John
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Possible real use for fuel mileage gauge - from Miki Haraguchi
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:12:28 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Haraguchi <mharaguchi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Possible real use for fuel mileage gauge Actually, another good use for the fuel mileage gauge from an instructor's POV is looking at it to detect if, when, and where the student is lifting on the race track. Hopefully it won't be in the middle of a high-speed turn. :^) Miki H. LTW/328is CCA/ProFormance Racing School Instructor _________ > From: "Davis, Jake A" <Jake.Davis@SW.Boeing.com> > Subject: Possible real use for fuel mileage gauge > > I know much has been written about the infamous instantaneous fuel mileage > gauge, but it may have one real use: detecting degradation of the oxygen > sensor. <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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#4. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs Porsche 944t - from Stan Shaw III
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:43:40 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw III" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs Porsche 944t Rob, I owned a 944TS in the past, but never tracked it. I can tell you that I have tracked both my '80 928S and my '96 M3 quite a bit in the past year. I found with the setups I have right now, the cars are very comparable in times at Lime Rock, NHIS and The Glen. In terms of weight the cars should be very close. My '80 928S is a euro, so weighs only 3197lbs, and the M3 is listed at 3175lbs (if I recall correctly). > -------------------- 7 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 00:59:12 -0700 > From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> > Subject: M3 vs Porsche 944t > > I'm thinking about building a 50% track/50% street car and the thought > of going back to 944 turbos (I've had 2) is weighing on my mind! I know > this is a BMW list so I won't go on and on but......~3000lbs, 300HP/330TQ > for ~$1000, 50/50 weight dist, big Brembo's, etc... > I guess my real concern is about which car will be fastest on the track > once both are properly prepared. I've already got an X-brace and H&R > coil-overs on my E36 and would do similar stuff to the 944. The Porsche will > always have a serious power-to-weight advantage but maybe the E36's ease of > driving and more advanced technology will let in win in the end? Has anyone > had real experience (comparable drivers) with their M3 vs. 944t's on the > track or Auto-X?. > > TIA, > Rob > > > > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 05:33:55 -0500 > From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> > Subject: Fw: [E36M3] WeatherTech Floormats > > > > I have a set in my '99 M3. The fronts fit fine without any cutting. > > The rears required cutting along the marked lines to fit under the front > seat. They were much too wide without the minor trimming to fit in without > trimming but the cutting was easy and didn't comprimise the integrity of > the > mats because they were designed to be cut to fit. > > I don't have the model number of mine but purchased from Bavarian Auto > about > a year ago. > > Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters > > A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, > the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > > > Is it possible they sent me the wrong ones, or is it more likely > > WeatherTech's products are a POS ? > > > > The invoice indicates the ones I ordered are model #W6. > > > > The fine print on the instructions indicates that a small amount of > cutting > > may be needed to make them fit for all applications. (If I'd known that > up > > front, I would have bought something else.) > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 06:10:54 -0600 > From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs Porsche 944t > > If you know this is a BMW list, why do you post about Porsche??? I guess I > need to start screening the posts again. > > Suzy > > Rob wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 00:59:12 -0700 > > From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> > > Subject: M3 vs Porsche 944t > > > > I'm thinking about building a 50% track/50% street car and the thought > > of going back to 944 turbos (I've had 2) is weighing on my mind! I know > > this is a BMW list so I won't go on and on but......~3000lbs, 300HP/330TQ > > for ~$1000, 50/50 weight dist, big Brembo's, etc... > > I guess my real concern is about which car will be fastest on the track > > once both are properly prepared. I've already got an X-brace and H&R > > coil-overs on my E36 and would do similar stuff to the 944. The Porsche will > > always have a serious power-to-weight advantage but maybe the E36's ease of > > driving and more advanced technology will let in win in the end? Has anyone > > had real experience (comparable drivers) with their M3 vs. 944t's on the > > track or Auto-X?. > > > > TIA, > > Rob > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:03:26 -0600 > From: "Ned Coonen" <ncoonen@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: WeatherTech Floormats > > Kevin, > > I live in Downers Grove, Illinois, home to MacNeil Automotive and > WeatherTech Floormats. In fact, their offices are less than a mile from my > home. Now I could go over and raise hell there on your behalf but they are > good folks, BMW CCA supporters, and active in the Windy City Chapter. > Instead, why not give them a call @ 1-800-313-7601 and ask about fitment. I > have WeatherTech mats in my (hibernating) E36 M3 and they fit swell. I'm > going to get a set for my Dodge Ram too. > > ...ned. > '98 M3 > '88 M5 X 2 > > >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:14:58 -0500 > >From: kmcleaster@iquest.net > >Subject: WeatherTech Floormats > > > >I just got a set of WeatherTech Floormats that are supposed to fix my '95 > >M3. There is no way these mats will fit my car. > > > >Is it possible they sent me the wrong ones, or is it more likely > >WeatherTech's products are a POS ? > > > >The invoice indicates the ones I ordered are model #W6. > > > >The fine print on the instructions indicates that a small amount of cutting > >may be needed to make them fit for all applications. (If I'd known that up > >front, I would have bought something else.) > > > >Anyone out there using these mats sucessfully in their E36? > > > >Thanks > > > >Kevin D. McLeaster WB9HMI > >'95 M3 Arctic Silver > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ************************************************************** > Digest Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************** >
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#5. FS M3 parts.. - from ClassiGuy3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:10:21 EST From: ClassiGuy3@aol.com Subject: FS M3 parts.. - set of 4 bilsteins and hr sport spirings. only 800 miles on sprongs and 2k miles on struts and shocks. - euro pean clear sidemarkers set of 6 , $250 plus shipping. -set of 4 bbs rc polished 18 inch x8.5 wit hmichelin mxx3's only 2k miles. all parts located in brooklyn ny and are from a 1995 M3
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Possible real use for fuel mileage gauge - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:34:19 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Possible real use for fuel mileage gauge > > I know much has been written about the infamous instantaneous fuel >mileage > > gauge, but it may have one real use: detecting degradation of the oxygen > > sensor. <snip> >Actually, another good use for the fuel mileage gauge from an instructor's >POV >is looking at it to detect if, when, and where the student is lifting on >the >race track. Hopefully it won't be in the middle of a high-speed turn. :^) the fact that it's analog (and that the range only goes from about 10mpg to 40mpg) makes it worthless to me. a car i drove before the M3 had a digital one. and i stared at it all the time. the car i have now has a digital one. i stare at it all the time. i love to see how high and low i can get it. ooh! a down hill is coming! can i get it to 50.0mpg?!?! or maybe even 100.0mpg?!?! ooh! an uphill is coming. if i floor it, can i get it under 3.0mpg ?!?! it's lots of fun! the boring old analog one that didn't even show 50.0 or 3.0 much less 100.0 was no fun. ;-( i never looked at that guage on my M3s. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. M3 versus 944T - from S Flanagan
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:14:17 -0800 (PST) From: S Flanagan <sf944@yahoo.com> Subject: M3 versus 944T Finally, something I can comment on... I had a 944T for about 5 years. What started as a stock car with 155K miles, slowly morphed into a 380HP (rear wheel), 2750lb monster. I've done DE events at NHIS and LimeRock, some autocrosses, and even a drag or two. The 944 is a phenomenal piece: well balanced, easy to modify, and easy to drive fast without getting yourself into trouble. In fact, even a stock 944T can make anyone look like David Coultard. Well, almost. After 5 years of tinkering, and an undisclosed amount of money later, I was tired of sinking time and money into the car (no fault of the car's, but the quest for more HP is never-ending). I sold it and ended up with an E36 M3, a car that could serve as my daily driver, occasional limousine, and frequent driver's ed car. My M3 has been modified only with minor intake mods, Shark injector, Borla, X- and strut braces. I like the BMW as a track car, but it does feel more ponderous than even a stock 944 on the track. My lap times bear this out, too, even when the 944 was making "only" 260HP or so. Here's my point: the Porsche is a sports car. Single purpose. From a track perspective, the M3 is a compromise. That's not to say the M3 can't be modified to go as fast or handle as well (if you can afford it), but I doubt you'll be able to do it and still keep the car streetable, a characteristic that I find so wonderful about the M3. Sorry if i've offended anyone, I don't mean to make this into a Porsche vs. BMW war (or a flame war -- YMMV). I'm quite content with the M3, but if I had the time, money, and garage space to have a dedicated track car, the Porsche would be my choice. But for my purposes, the Porsche isn't even an option any more. OK, folks, since this could easily turn into a nauseating thread, feel free to comment (or flame) me privately to avoid W.O.B. And, if anyone is further interested in modifying or tracking 944's, let me know privately, I'll help any way I can. --Scott
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#8. old stock clutch wanted - from NickG
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:03:20 -0500 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: old stock clutch wanted Does anybody happen to have an old stock clutch (worn out) from an E36 M3 that they want to get rid of? The clutch in my car is on its way out, and I want to have a custom clutch made. But I need a stock clutch in order to have the dimensions and such. Email me if you have something. Thanks, Nick '95 M3 turbo nikog@mediaone.net
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#9. Valentine One Programmable Features - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 01:16:01 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Valentine One Programmable Features I don't know how much this relates to E36 M3's but if you have a Valentine One radar detector, check out Valentine's web site: www.valentine1.com Go to Ask Mike and then Tech Report #5. There are several features you can customize. One, you can completely turn off the X-band warning. My X-band warning would go off every 1/2 mile driving in Dallas. Grocery stores, 7-11 stores, gas stations, stop lights, you name it, .... would set off the V1. I don't think any metropolitan police departments use old X-band radar guns so all X-band alerts are false warnings. The other feature to look into is the ability to completely silence alerts by pushing the mute button. I tend to have my muted volume fairly high so the ability to totally silence the alert is nice. I have one intersection that always has a K-band alert. I often get stopped at this intersection and have to listen to the alert for 90 seconds or until I turn the V1 off. The mute to silence is perfect for this. It is SO WONDERFUL to finally drive around town in peace and quiet. I think if you live in a large city, you can safely deactivate the X-band alert. I'll reactivate for my trips into rural areas. There might be a few rural police departments still using X-band. Check into it if you wish. http://www.valentine1.com/lab/MikesLabRpt5.asp Lowell Seaton '95 M3 - V1 / enjoying the quiet Dallas, Texas
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#10. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 05:14:31 -0600 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Have it your way guys. Talk about whatever you want. Suzy "DiVincenti, A.J." wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:06:27 -0600 > From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> > Subject: M3 vs. > > Rob simply wanted to know how an equally prepared E36M3(content)stacks up > against a rival Porsche. Why is that so off topic? If someone is > considering racing an M3 and wants to know how it matches up against other > cars, this would seem like an appropriate forum. After all, it comes down > to strengths and weakness of an E36M3 compared to a 944. The way I read it, > he posted about a Porsche in the context of E36M3's. The M3 is a great car > because it is great relative to the rest of the cars available to choose > from. I would like to hear opinions of why an M3 is better or not than > brand X. I for one thought it was an interesting question. > > aj > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 06:10:54 -0600 > From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs Porsche 944t > > If you know this is a BMW list, why do you post about Porsche??? I guess I > need to start screening the posts again. > > Suzy > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > *************************************************************