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#1. Re: [E36M3] squealing brakes - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:10:11 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] squealing brakes I missed the thread on the Porterfield R4S's a while back. Do these squeak as well and how good are they on the track and on the street? Yes, I meant R4S. Thanks Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] squealing brakes > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:25:56 -0800 > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] squealing brakes > > >I just put on new rotors and new pads. I know that I'm not supposed to > >bed new pads with new rotors, but I got lazy. > > that's kind of a myth. there's no problem doing that as long as you do it > "right". with both parts being new, it's 100 times more important to do a > good bedding job. but as long as you do, you'll be fine. > > lots of people say "don't do both at once" becuase they figure the customer > WON'T do a good bedding job, and doing one at a time makes the bedding > process easier, and shorter, and less important. > > >So. Does anyone have any more suggestions for stopping brake squeal? > > use street pads. race pads make noise, it's how they stop your car faster. > ;-) > > >Also, anyone know where to get new pad shims? Or can someone suggest a > >different brand of anti-squeal goop? My Pagid street pads don't squeal, > >but don't stop nearly as well and dust a lot. :/ > > brake performance, and noise seem to be mutually exclusive. i troed for > three years and then gave up. your choices seem to be "noise and good". > "quiet and not as good". > > i'm 99% sure that any backing material (weather solid like a shim, or liquit > like that goopy stuff) won't stand up to the 1200 degree temps you'll find > at the track anyway. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* > >
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#2. RE: [E36M3] squealing brakes - from MDadgar@handspring.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:28:36 -0800 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] squealing brakes Bora asked: > I missed the thread on the Porterfield R4S's a while back. > > Do these squeak as well and how good are they on the track and on the > street? > They squeal like a garbage truck. You can make it go away temporarily, but it'll always come back. They're adequate on the track (yes, I disagree with Sean on this one) until you're an "advanced beginner" (probably ready to move out of C group for the BMW CCA school attendees around here). My brother-in-law recently welded his R4S backing plates to his rotors when the pads went away more quickly than he expected. YMMV. - Mark '95 M3, R4S's '97 528i 5-spd, stock pads '88 M3, Hennarot, PF90's ---- Mark Dadgar - Product Manager, Peripherals (650) 230-5037 voice - (650) 230-2100 fax mdadgar@handspring.com - Handspring, Inc. Check out Visor at www.handspring.com!
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#3. RE: [E36M3] squealing brakes - from Robert Jackowitz
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:32:15 -0500 From: Robert Jackowitz <RJackowitz@HARVPART.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] squealing brakes Yes they will squeak...if not at first, eventually. Although, they are very clean...what little dust they make is silver as opposed to black. They do make good street/autox pads. They do not make good track pads if there is any heavy braking involved. Rob > I missed the thread on the Porterfield R4S's a while back. > > Do these squeak as well and how good are they on the track and on the > street? > > Yes, I meant R4S. > > Thanks > > Bora > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] squealing brakes > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:25:56 -0800 > > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] squealing brakes > > > > >I just put on new rotors and new pads. I know that I'm not supposed to > > >bed new pads with new rotors, but I got lazy. > > > > that's kind of a myth. there's no problem doing that as long as you do > it > > "right". with both parts being new, it's 100 times more important to do > a > > good bedding job. but as long as you do, you'll be fine. > > > > lots of people say "don't do both at once" becuase they figure the > customer > > WON'T do a good bedding job, and doing one at a time makes the bedding > > process easier, and shorter, and less important. > > > > >So. Does anyone have any more suggestions for stopping brake squeal? > > > > use street pads. race pads make noise, it's how they stop your car > faster. > > ;-) > > > > >Also, anyone know where to get new pad shims? Or can someone suggest a > > >different brand of anti-squeal goop? My Pagid street pads don't > squeal, > > >but don't stop nearly as well and dust a lot. :/ > > > > brake performance, and noise seem to be mutually exclusive. i troed for > > three years and then gave up. your choices seem to be "noise and good". > > "quiet and not as good". > > > > i'm 99% sure that any backing material (weather solid like a shim, or > liquit > > like that goopy stuff) won't stand up to the 1200 degree temps you'll > find > > at the track anyway. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > ************************************************************* >
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#4. Re: Suspension noise - from Michael Bird
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:12:35 -0500 From: "Michael Bird" <MJBird@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Suspension noise Steve wrote: >From: Steve <sgrigory@pacbell.net> >Subject: Front suspension "grinding" noise- 95 M3 > >Lately, I've noticed a grinding noise that seems to come from the front of >my car. I'm using the word "grinding" somewhat loosely since the noise is >somewhat subtle. Steve, I vote for wheel bearings also. What do I win if I'm right? Michael
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#5. FS m3 susp/rims tires - from ClassiGuy3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:16:07 EST From: ClassiGuy3@aol.com Subject: FS m3 susp/rims tires bilsteins /hr springs 800 miles, fits a 95 m3. $650 plus shipping obo. 18 inch polished bbs rc's w/ michelin pilots mxx3's less than 2k miles. $2200 plus shipping located in nyc area
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#6. PLEASE READ: mailing list address change - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:03:11 -0600 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: PLEASE READ: mailing list address change Effective immediately, the address of the mailing list has changed from <e36m3@bmwmpower.com> to <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Please start using the new address, as the old one will be discontinued as soon as BMW takes over the bmwmpower domain name. Suzy
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#7. Re: [E36M3] PLEASE READ: mailing list address change - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:30:54 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] PLEASE READ: mailing list address change Suzy, Is BMW still giving you a hard time? Sorry to hear about that. I hope you made some money selling the BMWMPOWER domain name to BMW. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 BMW CCA #131505
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#8. Re: [E36M3] PLEASE READ: mailing list address change - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:36:39 -0600 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] PLEASE READ: mailing list address change I decided it was best to just cooperate with BMW. They do have a copyright on "mpower" Suzy LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > Suzy, > > Is BMW still giving you a hard time? Sorry to hear about that. I hope you > made some money selling the BMWMPOWER domain name to BMW. > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3 > BMW CCA #131505