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#1. 17x8.5" wheels option? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:17:31 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: 17x8.5" wheels option? Rob, >>? I'd love a set of Factory Forged 5 spokes but it's impossible to find four 8.5"ers all around.<< What's wrong with the wheels sold as the wheel upgrade option on the '99s? I have them...Theyre the polished dbl spoke Motorsport wheels...I dont know theyre exact weight, but the offset is sure right, theyre great looking, and they come in the size youre looking for....Or, are you suggesting that, if you buy a 'set', you need to get the staggered sizes with 2 x 7.5 and 2 x 8.5? I would hate to think thats the case... I mean, BMW gets somewhere near $700 a piece for them, and I would hate to think you cant get 4 of any size you want, provided they are made in that size...which they are! _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3 <25000 mi Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift kit and Clutch Stop; Skaggs Pedals; X-brace; Sound by Kenwood Excelon, Polk, JL Audio
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#2. Supercharger help needed ! - from Rob
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:11:22 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: Supercharger help needed ! My partner just got a '99 M3/2 with a supercharger and we need some help! From what we can tell and from discussions with ERT it appears to be an ERT kit. There are no markings on anything but it does use a Vortec blower and uses an adj fuel press. reg. for enrichment of the stock injectors, which again points towards ERT and not Dinan or RMS. Here are the problems: 1-The car will only make 2-3psi of boost in any gear and at any given RPM. We assume a slipping belt or boost leak but can not pinpoint either. Are we missing something obvious? 2-According to a Dinan MIPP that we plugged in the car has stock DME programming and ERT also tells us they don't modify the programming, but we are able to hit ~7000RPM before the rev limiter. I'm more familiar with my '95 M3 but I think the limiter on a 3.2L is ~6700RPM? Is it possible for this car to have some other type of program? Thanks for the help, Rob '95 3.0L - Naturally aspirated
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? [also long] - from Chris Teague
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:39:50 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? [also long] Sean, The 96-99 M3's do have smaller (225) front tires stock than the 95's (235), *but* the wheel size is the same, 7.5". The 235's are actually just a tad big for a 7.5" wheel. So I don't think there is much difference in front traction. The rears are 245's with 8.5 inch wheels, a significant increase, but that should only increase the rear traction, not decrease the front. If that were the only difference, it may understeer more, but only due to the higher rear traction, which is probably a good thing. But the 96-99 cars have more caster, which gives more front camber change, a good thing. And they have a larger rear sway bar, which should restore some of the balance. So there are several variables that have been changed. In short, I don't think there is a large difference in balance between the 95 and later cars, and if I had to choose one in stock condition, I would go for the larger rear wheels/swaybar combo of the later cars. IMHO. But it's close. I think BMW did this mostly to reduce wheel spin, not change the balance of the car. Of course, 8.5" or 9" wheels all the way around I think is better than the staggared setup for sure. Chris Teague 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? [also long] > Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:03:02 -0800 > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? [also long] > > >Lets say at this stage you > >make a single change - put bigger tires on the front. This raises the > >traction limit of the front a tad.... enough to give you another 4-5 m.p.h. > >through the corner before traction again becomes limiting (either at the > >front or the rear). > > having owned a pair of 95s (and no other M3s) i always forget that you 1996+ > people have smaller front tires, AND larger rear tires then i did. why did > bmw do this? probably because the lawyers told the designers that too many > people spun their 1995s and they needed a "safer" car. "safer" meaning more > understeer. ;-P > > you're very right. having all 4 tires the same size IS a GOOD way to cut > understeer pretty much for free (meaning no downsides) on those 1996+ cars > with smaller fronts. and... it's probably a big factor in how i was able > to get my M3 to be pretty much neutral handling without much effort. if i'd > had those tiny front tires, and huge rears, like most M3 owners have, i'd > have had a much harder time achieving that goal of neutral handling. > > i suppose if you have a 1995 you're out of luck on the "larger front tires" > upgrade. unless you want to look really silly with fronts larger then the > rears. ;-( > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3, new M Roadster/Coupe info... - from Chris Teague
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:42:13 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 M3, new M Roadster/Coupe info... I just talked to Shelly BMW yesterday, and they said that the M Roadster/Coupe won't be here for another 8-9 *months*. They should have the demo E46 M3 by the end of the month according to Kevin Hite. I still am hoping for a 4 door version. Chris Teague 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: [E36M3] E46 M3, new M Roadster/Coupe info... > Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:39:17 -0500 > From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: E46 M3, new M Roadster/Coupe info... > > info to be released tomorrow, during the LA Auto Show. > > New M Roadster/Coupe: 315hp (with same motor as E46 M3). > > M Roadster MSRP: $45,990 > M Coupe MSRP: $44,990 > > and the juicy stuff... > > all US dealers getting their FIRST E46 M3s will all be the same...all > Laguna Seca Blue, as demostration vehicles. of course, i predict that they > can't sell it for a while. > > E46 M3 MSRP $45,400 plus $1,000 Federal Gas Guzzler. > > First cars supposedly showing up in the US in Feb, but since most dealers > can see this forcast in their systems (a month ahead), a few confirmed that > they did not see any coming in Feb. > > fwiw. > > ben > ------------------------------------------- > ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#5. IO Port Racing Products - from Jim Powell
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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:00:41 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: IO Port Racing Products Two quirky habits collide!!!! J'A'P got a new digital camera for Christmas and some IO Port Racing goodies. If you've ever wanted to see what a camera mount on a rollbar looks like or wondered what a seat brace was, goto: http://www.apexcone.com/IOPort/ioport.html Tomorrow we might put seat heaters in the E30. Now won't THAT be exciting? Ok, maybe not. But I'm taking pictures to bore all of you anyway. Jim
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#6. Dinan brace - from Chris Hagedorn
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:06:33 -0500 From: "Chris Hagedorn" <captainhags@hotmail.com> Subject: Dinan brace Well, as it turns out, there wasn't a problem after all. A friend of mine who is a bit of a "fanatic" about cars. I told him about my problem and before I knew it, he was taking a rubber mallet to the bolts, tapping them just hard enough to get them to fit into the holes. The hardest thing was wanting to take the car out and feel the difference, oh well. The so-called "flurries" which weren't supposed to "stick" turned out to be about three inches that did "stick". I really don't like God's sense of humor. Captain Hags '95 M3 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein E36 travel - from Carey Probst
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:33:28 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein E36 travel Are you sure you have the right Bilstein for the application? When we put Eibach's on my son's 325 we had to get a different Bilstein from stock because of the difference in ride height. The Eibach's lowered the car about 1-2 inches and the standard shock would have been much too long. Haven't changed the M3 yet so can't speak specifically on it. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] foggy windows? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:36:10 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] foggy windows? Try running the AC on. Works great to dehumidify and keep windows clear. Heat will just put more humitidy in air from snow on shoes, clothes, etc. and make it worse. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > > With the arrival of wet, sloppy weather, I once again face the = > challenge > of driving my m3. No, its not snowy or ice roads (I have Nokian snow > tires for that). It's not the cold (heated seats for that). Its the = > #@$% > windows which fog up with the slightest hint of moisture in the air. It > is especially bad if it is snowing. But any time its even misty out, = > and > the temperature is around freezing, I have to turn the defroster on = > full > just to see out, but the side windows still fog up.
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#9. Fairfax VA Dakar Yellow M3 - from Carey Probst
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:41:24 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Fairfax VA Dakar Yellow M3 I was following a Dakar yellow M3 Convertible out of the Fair Lakes TRW/PwC office complex tonight with license SLPSTRM. =20 Anyone on the list? =20 I spend most of my working time in Fair Lakes and would be interested = in meeting if so. =20 Please reply privately. =20 Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters =20 A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,=20 the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.=20
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein E36 travel - from Sean Hester
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:12:11 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein E36 travel >It should be interesting. Mine aren't trimmed. No problem. H&R and >Eibach told >me NOT to trim them. Bilstein DEFINITELY says don't trim them but... yours is the car with kmacs that doesn't seem raised right? right? huh? so... we all know it's not a good test case. ;-P this is half in jest and half not. i wonder if the extra bit the kmacs give you is keeping you off of the bumps... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com