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#1. Supercharger help needed ! - from Lew Becker
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 07:25:58 -0800 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: Supercharger help needed ! I don't have any answers, but I do know where I'd look for them -- the Big Boost Gruppe is probably the best place to ask about these and other problems relating to BMW's with forced induction. A number of these guys are VERY knowledgeable about such matters. Community email addresses: Post message: BigBoostGruppe@onelist.com Subscribe: BigBoostGruppe-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: BigBoostGruppe-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: BigBoostGruppe-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL: http://www.onelist.com/community/BigBoostGruppe Lew Becker ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:11:22 -0700 > From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> > Subject: Supercharger help needed ! > > My partner just got a '99 M3/2 with a supercharger and we need some > help! > From what we can tell and from discussions with ERT it appears to be an > ERT kit. There are no markings on anything but it does use a Vortec blower > and uses an adj fuel press. reg. for enrichment of the stock injectors, > which again points towards ERT and not Dinan or RMS. Here are the > problems: > > 1-The car will only make 2-3psi of boost in any gear and at any given RPM. > We assume a slipping belt or boost leak but can not pinpoint either. Are we > missing something obvious? > > 2-According to a Dinan MIPP that we plugged in the car has stock DME > programming and ERT also tells us they don't modify the programming, but we > are able to hit ~7000RPM before the rev limiter. I'm more familiar with my > '95 M3 but I think the limiter on a 3.2L is ~6700RPM? Is it possible for > this car to have some other type of program? > > Thanks for the help, > Rob > '95 3.0L - Naturally aspirated >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? [also long] - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:28:02 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? [also long] In a message dated 1/5/01 4:04:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, seanh_race@hotmail.com writes: << why did bmw do this? probably because the lawyers told the designers that too many people spun their 1995s and they needed a "safer" car. "safer" meaning more understeer. ;-P >> Exactly...I was told this by a BMW test car driver back in 1997. I'd love to have his job! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 mov'in to ESP in '01 (or BSP...whatever the SCCA gods decide)
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared - from Steve Hudson
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 09:28:48 -0600 From: "Steve Hudson" <shudson@io.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared Go to http://www.scca.org/news/bod_minutes/12-2000.html You'll find where the stock class changes are listed in Appendix A, scroll down to Solo Events and the reclassification of the M3 from ESP to BSP. Steve Hudson '97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mdriver13@aol.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared > Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:09:40 EST > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared > > In a message dated 1/6/01 9:43:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rjdorche@concentric.net writes: > > << Is approval by the BOD a > formality? The SCCA website is no help. In fact the classifications > page shows CSP, where it was classed in 1999. >> > > I discussed this very topic with another lister just yesterday. True...as > you pointed out SCCA website - - no help at all, totally outdated. Not sure > when the BOD meets, maybe the February National meeting?? I think the move > to BSP will happen. If Bob Tunnell is lurking he can provide an update...he > knows the "goings-on" behind the SCCA scene as well as anyone. Bob?????? > > just my $0.02, > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > AS Champion 1997 & 2000 > mov'in to ESP in '01 (or BSP...whatever the SCCA gods decide) > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:53:23 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared Thanks Steve, OK all, BSP it is....let's go forth and kick some Corvette booty!!!!! ;-)) Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 BSP for '01
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#5. Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared - from vernon@sprynet.com
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:23:33 -0500 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared Bob, Althought the basic "static" info on the website is usually outdated, the Tech and BOD meeting minutes are great sources of info. This is from the December BOD meeting where they basically stamped their approval on the move to BSP. I was told that it is in effect as of 01/01/01 as Steve mentioned in his post. The meeting minutes are interesting sources of information. http://www.scca.org/news/bod_minutes/12-2000.html Maybe we'll be in ASP next year, who knows :) We had our local SCCA meeting Wednesday night and my two main ESP rivals (A Saleen Mustang and a Ram-Air Firebird) were so damn happy they couldn't stop smiling. At least somebody is happy about the move.... Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 - goodbye pony cars, hello vettes... >-------------------- 7 -------------------- >Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 08:36:00 -0600 >From: Bob Dorchester <rjdorche@concentric.net> >Subject: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared > >Does anyone KNOW a final outcome on the Solo Events Board >recommendation >to reclass the E36 M3 from ESP to BSP? Is approval by the BOD a >formality? The SCCA website is no help. In fact the classifications >page shows CSP, where it was classed in 1999. > >Living in the Sunbelt (OK, it's 40F outside), our first Regional >event >is tomorrow, and I would like to know whether to report for the AM >or PM >session. > >Bob Dorchester >Houston
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:57:06 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared Hi guys. I am going to autox my M3 in a few weeks and was curious as to what class a bone stock 95 M3 is classed. What exactly will I be racing against and, with race tires, will I be competitive if driving ability is equal? Thanks! Mark 95 ///M3 91 GTi 16v - DSP CLASS KILLER!! 88 Chevy Fullsize From: vernon@sprynet.com Reply-To: vernon@sprynet.com To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:33:17 -0600 Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:23:33 -0500 From: vernon@sprynet.com Subject: Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared Bob, Althought the basic "static" info on the website is usually outdated, the Tech and BOD meeting minutes are great sources of info. This is from the December BOD meeting where they basically stamped their approval on the move to BSP. I was told that it is in effect as of 01/01/01 as Steve mentioned in his post. The meeting minutes are interesting sources of information. http://www.scca.org/news/bod_minutes/12-2000.html Maybe we'll be in ASP next year, who knows :) We had our local SCCA meeting Wednesday night and my two main ESP rivals (A Saleen Mustang and a Ram-Air Firebird) were so damn happy they couldn't stop smiling. At least somebody is happy about the move.... Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 - goodbye pony cars, hello vettes... >-------------------- 7 -------------------- >Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 08:36:00 -0600 >From: Bob Dorchester <rjdorche@concentric.net> >Subject: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared > >Does anyone KNOW a final outcome on the Solo Events Board >recommendation >to reclass the E36 M3 from ESP to BSP? Is approval by the BOD a >formality? The SCCA website is no help. In fact the classifications >page shows CSP, where it was classed in 1999. > >Living in the Sunbelt (OK, it's 40F outside), our first Regional >event >is tomorrow, and I would like to know whether to report for the AM >or PM >session. > >Bob Dorchester >Houston ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? - from B. Horne
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 12:40:43 -0800 From: "B. Horne" <brianbmw@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? Sean and Peter, Inherant understeer and oversteer both can be handled and dealt with by a competent driver. It really depends on the corner you are trying to handle and the objective of your suspension, and how you like the car set up. The E36 M3 is set up to push because that is a safer situation to deal with on the streets. Most performance drivers like a little oversteer because you can hang the tail out and control it with the throttle. My suggestion is for everyone who *hates* understeer in the E36 is to learn how to drive the car with the understeer first. It can be done (slow in, wait, fast out). It is a valuable lesson and will build your driving skills. And, you will end up going just as fast, albiet with a differnt approach to the track. Then start to tweak the suspension a little at a time along with negative camber and tire pressures. This way you will experience the full range of handling differences. Keep a log of the set-ups (I know, this is anal) and note the changes in handling. Different tracks and different conditions call for variations in the set-up for the car. BTW--I found that increasing the pressures in the front tires took the understeer down considerable, especially in the slow tight corners (like in autocross). I ran Goodyear GSCS on my '95 and ended up with 36 psi in the fronts, and 30-31 in the rears. A stagger of a least 4 pounds is necessary to make a noticable difference. Brian ;) '95 M3 track/street car, '93 325 Race Car >of course... you'd do nothing to actually make the car handle better. and >might even make it worse. but that's obviously not what we're going for >here. i mean... the M3 handles better then all but about a dozen cars on >the planet already. that can't be the problem. the problem was the damn >understeer that makes it impossible to be "manly". > >P.S. i actually acheived a neutral handling M3. (without the tire trick) >with a few carefully chosen and carefully (anally) tuned mods. (adjustible >camber plates, adjustible shocks, strut braces) and i did it with stock >springs so no stiff ride or lowering problems. but... my car didn't go >through corners any faster. just more neutrally. but... it did wear the >insides of my tires. and it did make the car a it darty. you can't get >something for nothing. ;-(
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:42:36 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared In a message dated 1/6/01 2:03:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, radelow@hotmail.com writes: << Hi guys. I am going to autox my M3 in a few weeks and was curious as to what class a bone stock 95 M3 is classed. What exactly will I be racing against and, with race tires, will I be competitive if driving ability is equal? >> Stock M3...AS class. Competition...mostly other M3s, and if you're very unlucky Boxsters (not the S type) with the dealer installed suspension upgrade, Honda S2000s, and Toyota MR2 turbos. Others, would be 2.8L Z3 coupes, roadsters, Porsche 911s, Mitsu 3000GT, and Audi S4s. Some 2001 models will join the group, such as some of the new 3.0L BMWs. Bone stock, with equal driver ability, watch out for the Boxsters and the MR2 turbos! All depends on the course layout. Wide open course...your the dog, tight course...your the hydrant. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 13 BSP 2001
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein E36 travel - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:56:12 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein E36 travel Carey asks: > Are you sure you have the right Bilstein for the application? Go to Bilstein's home page: Bilstein.com Click on Products > Suspension Spec Search for BMW. Scroll down to M3 E36 chassis According to Bilstein's own web site the proper shocks/struts for an E36 M3 are: Front (L) VE3-4237 Front (R) VE3-4238 Rear BE5-2453 The Bilsteins on my M3 are clearly marked on the boxes and the shocks with these exact part numbers. And I have K-MAC camber plates that supposedly raise the car and Dinan springs that I think raise the front a little. I'm higher than stock but yet it sure feels like I am on the bumper stops. I'll disassemble my Bilsteins and trim/remove the bump stops to see if that helps. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas
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#10. One-piece race seat for daily driver? - from Rob
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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:03:57 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: One-piece race seat for daily driver? Anyone on the list have a daily driver with a one-piece race seat? I am about to buy a pair of Sparco Torino's (aggressive bucket that reclines) but maybe I should consider a full-on seat like the EVO? The real race seats are a PITA to get in and out of and I imagine you could never wear a jacket while driving, but 'maybe' the extra support and weight savings are worth it? Thanks, Rob