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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:56:13 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II Street Prepared In a message dated 1/6/01 5:03:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, shudson@io.com writes: << Don't forget the Porsche 968, has a torsion bar suspension and can be legally lowered by adjusting the bars. >> Oh, how could I forget the dreaded 968s and the Kozlaks. Mind suppression I guess ;-)) Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 13 BSP 2001
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:03:05 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Am I destined to hate my car? In a message dated 1/6/01 3:43:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, brianbmw@worldnet.att.net writes: << I ran Goodyear GSCS on my '95 and ended up with 36 psi in the fronts, and 30-31 in the rears. A stagger of a least 4 pounds is necessary to make a noticable difference. >> ditto...I ran Kumho V700 on my '97 with 42 psi in the front and 38 in the rear (cold/hot). A four pound differential again. Just another data point for folks. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 13 BSP 2001
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#3. Web Pages Moving - from Jim Powell
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:06:21 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Web Pages Moving Due to @home.com being unable to function as an ISP on a reliable basis I have moved all of my webpages. The new address is: http://www.apexcone.com You'll notice my email is also differnet. The old pages are still there for the time being but will be removed as I find time to do so. If you have links to these pages, please repoint them. I'm sorry for the trouble but @home.com just isn't very reliable. Being offline I can tolerate; but as you may remember, a week or two ago they lost 40 megs of content and refused to do anything about it. Turns out they had NO backups of member files. It wouldn't surprise me if others were in the same position. So if you have an extensive webpage someplace, I suggest you keep up to date backups to ftp back to the ISP if they have a failure. We could go into great detail about how @home.com should have had redundant file servers etc. They didn't apparently. Buyer beware. Jim
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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 in B Stock (or whatever it will be called in 2001) - from Ron Katona
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:49:32 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 in B Stock (or whatever it will be called in 2001) Steve Hudson wrote: > The proposed SCCA stock class restructuring as been put off until 1/1/2002. > There is still time to send the Solo Events Board your comments on the new > classifications. And along with the stock class reorg, there is a proposal for member comment to move the M3 LTW out of ASP and put it on the same line of the rulebook with the regular E36 M3 in BSP for 2002. That's both good and bad. Obviously, it lets M3 SP drivers take some more weight off the car, but except for the aluminum doors there's not much to be gained over what you can already do in SP. The expense of finding those aluminum doors could be high as there are probably very few around. OTOH, for those willing to go to the nth degree of preparation, it opens the "door" to take maybe another 40-50 lb off the car and every bit helps against the 'Vettes. M3 LTW owners should also be happy since the car has never been competitive in ASP. Were the Euro rotors standard on the LTW? That might also be a worthwhile legal mod to reduce unsprung weight if the LTWs had them. In any case, I doubt the Solo Events Board will be flooded with comments from angry pony car owners over the LTW move like they were with the ESP deal. That means it's up to us M3 owners to tell them what to do. Write your letter now. -- Ron Katona
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#5. Inspection II - from reed nicholson
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 17:23:38 From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> Subject: Inspection II Has anybody had their Inspection II come up under 36,000 miles? I'm at 35,900 and I swear that last green light has been on twice as long as the previous one. I'm starting to think BMW has the programming set to prevent Inspection II while it's on their dime. Anybody know? Reed/Seattle _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Inspection II - from Andy T. Korczynski
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:40:39 -0600 From: "Andy T. Korczynski" <andy@casskor.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Inspection II I don't know about Inspection II, but I just hit Inspection I and it didnt come on till AFTER the car had over 18,000. The light came on the next time I started the car after it went over 18,000. I do think it works on the "how you drive" principle I've heard before. I push the car almost every time I drive it (I didnt buy it to putz around town) and the light didn't come on any sooner. Andy K. -----Original Message----- From: reed nicholson [mailto:reedthis48@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:33 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Inspection II Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 17:23:38 From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> Subject: Inspection II Has anybody had their Inspection II come up under 36,000 miles? I'm at 35,900 and I swear that last green light has been on twice as long as the previous one. I'm starting to think BMW has the programming set to prevent Inspection II while it's on their dime. Anybody know? Reed/Seattle _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Inspection II - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:17:19 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Inspection II I forgot the exact figure, but there is a certain number of miles that *must* pass before any dealer can do service and get paid for it...I think it's 8000 miles. Where I go, they let me get Oil Service or Inspection I (haven't done Inspection II yet) with one green light left if I have passed the mile threshold since the last service. This way, you can get Inspection II done under warranty. Chester --- "Andy T. Korczynski" <andy@casskor.com> wrote: > Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:40:39 -0600 > From: "Andy T. Korczynski" <andy@casskor.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Inspection II > > I don't know about Inspection II, but I just hit Inspection I and it > didnt come on till AFTER the car had over 18,000. The light came on the > next time I started the car after it went over 18,000. I do think it > works on the "how you drive" principle I've heard before. I push the > car almost every time I drive it (I didnt buy it to putz around town) > and the light didn't come on any sooner. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#8. RE:Stiff suspension + ABS. - from RogRacer@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:27:37 EST From: RogRacer@aol.com Subject: RE:Stiff suspension + ABS. On one occasion, I've noticed the same thing with my stock suspension '95. I applied the brakes just as I was passing over a rail-road crest...after the car settled back on its suspension, the ABS was still pulsing like crazy. I suspect that if I quickly lifted and reapplied the brakes, all would have been OK. I do believe, however, that your theory of an extra-stiff suspension would tend to exaggerate this effect. Still, stock suspension cars can experience this too! Roger W. Graves RogRacer@aol.com '95 M3, stock suspension, IMHO a great setup for the street.
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#9. Re: E36 M3 in B Stock (or whatever it will be called in 2001) - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:44:39 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: E36 M3 in B Stock (or whatever it will be called in 2001) Thanks for the great info guys! It's looking like the course is going to be one of San Diego's famous 1.5 miles courses so it'll be nice and open. One more question; I am running MXX3's. Any recommendation on tire pressures? Thanks guys. I am debating on whether to run the M in class or my GTI. Just depends on who shows up. Mark From: vernon@sprynet.com To: e36m3@bmw-m.net CC: radelow@hotmail.com Subject: E36 M3 in B Stock (or whatever it will be called in 2001) Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:29:50 -0500 Mark, I think the stock class restructuring getting closer to being final (anyone know??). It looks like the E36 M3 is in the new B Stock class with most of the old faces from what used to be A Stock: http://www.scca.org/news/tech/seb/1100memo.html#memo (If anyone has better info, please let me know). Most of the usual suspects seem to be there - Z3, S2000, 3000GT/Stealth, 944T, 968, older 911's, Non-S Boxsters and MR2T. I had seen one earlier list that had the 993 911's in with the E36 M3 (that would have been bad), but they are now in the 2nd class (now A-Stock). I thought they were going to bump the S2000 up, but they will again be in with the M3's. All of the cars I listed above are tough in the hands of a good driver, but a bone-stock M3 is formidable. Biggest competition will be from Boxsters, S2000's, MR2T and some 944T/968's. Z3's can be very tough, older 911's are 'usually' easy to take and the 3000GT/Stealths just don't seem agile enough to be a threat. Unless is rains, then the Audi S4's and 3000GT/Stealths will smack an M3 around pretty good. As Bob said, really tight courses are not to your advantage, but you can still win on them with superior strategy (such as letting air out of your competitors tires! ! when they're not looking or pulling one of their spark plug wires <g> - just kidding). Don't force the understeer in really tight corners, use the great transitional balance to your advantage and trust the brakes - and the car will be competitive. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 BSP 1999 and 2000 Steel Cities A-Stock Champion >------------------- 8 -------------------- >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:42:36 EST >From: Mdriver13@aol.com >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Reclassification of E36M3 in SSCA Solo II >Street Prepared > >In a message dated 1/6/01 2:03:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, >radelow@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Hi guys. I am going to autox my M3 in a few weeks and was >curious as to > what class a bone stock 95 M3 is classed. What exactly will I be >racing > against and, with race tires, will I be competitive if driving >ability is > equal? >> > >Stock M3...AS class. Competition...mostly other M3s, and if you're >very >unlucky Boxsters (not the S type) with the dealer installed >suspension >upgrade, Honda S2000s, and Toyota MR2 turbos. Others, would be 2.8L >Z3 >coupes, roadsters, Porsche 911s, Mitsu 3000GT, and Audi S4s. Some >2001 >models will join the group, such as some of the new 3.0L BMWs. > >Bone stock, with equal driver ability, watch out for the Boxsters >and the MR2 >turbos! All depends on the course layout. Wide open course...your >the dog, >tight course...your the hydrant. > > >Bob Gill >97 ///M3 coupe >Philly Region SCCA >AS Champion 1997 & 2000 >13 BSP 2001 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#10. re: Stiff suspension + ABS. Almost wrecked my car! (long) - from Ron Katona
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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:53:02 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: re: Stiff suspension + ABS. Almost wrecked my car! (long) "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> wrote: > If the car was still running stock (or close to) suspension the frost-heave > would have been absorbed by the suspensions travel/compliance and none of > the above story would have ever happened. Maybe these super stiff set-ups > are great on pool table smooth tracks but I'm begining to think they are the > wrong way to go for the street. Has anyone else experienced similar problems > with a stiff set-up? I don't think there could be anything wrong with my > ABS? My car has to be on the upper ranges of "stiff" for a street driven M3 and I don't have the problem you seem to have - at least not to the extent that you do. You're right, BMW's suspension solution for the M3 is hard to beat on the street, but I don't think spring rates are entirely your problem. I'd suspect the shocks. Are the H&R shocks and struts in your coil-over kit adjustable? Single or double adjustment? If they are adjustable, it sounds like you have them set full stiff in both compression and particularly rebound. The shocks aren't letting the springs work to keep the tires planted on the ground. Find someplace bumpy where you can test this at lower speeds in a safe area. Set the shocks to full soft and see if it helps. If they are not adjustable, then is sounds like the shock valving is not well matched to the springs. Also, if you have heavy wheels and tires the effect will be worse. Stock wheels? > This story is about suspesnion and brakes so please no lessons on how and > where to drive. Sorry, I tried _real_ hard. ;-) It has to be asked whether you let off the brakes a bit in anticipation of bumps in order to help determine whether there really is something wrong with the car. Better to give up a few feet of braking and then get back on them hard than to upset the suspension, get the ABS going, then try to get everything to settle back down (as you found out). There is the *possibility* that there's nothing wrong with your car. -- Ron Katona