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#1. Re: Inspection II - from Peter Fanning
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:31:52 -0800 From: Peter Fanning <pfanning@premier1.net> Subject: Re: Inspection II Reed, I got ours in at 34,xxx. Just need more track time... ;-) Peter Fanning '98 M3/4 At 02:13 PM 1/7/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 17:23:38 >From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> >Subject: Inspection II > >Has anybody had their Inspection II come up under 36,000 miles? I'm at >35,900 and I swear that last green light has been on twice as long as the >previous one. I'm starting to think BMW has the programming set to prevent >Inspection II while it's on their dime. Anybody know? > >Reed/Seattle
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#2. FS M3 rims..and clutch pedal/ron stygar.. - from ClassiGuy3@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:37:24 EST From: ClassiGuy3@aol.com Subject: FS M3 rims..and clutch pedal/ron stygar.. 18 inch bbs rc's polished with michelin pilot mxx3. set of 4. $ 2300 or best offer. ROn stygar clutch pedal kit/ never installed./ $75 bucks. Leo
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#3. Eibach vs. stock spring rates - from TFRM3@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:52:34 EST From: TFRM3@aol.com Subject: Eibach vs. stock spring rates <<With all this talk about suspension for M3, has anyone tried to just swap the front spring w/ relatively mild aftermarket springs like Eibach pro-kit and leave the rear stock since the spring rate of the stock springs are pretty high already?>> A little known fact is that Eibach rear springs are almost exactly the same as the stock European rate, intentionally. The "almost exactly" disclaimer is that the term "European" is a bit dubious when dealing with prototype cars, European cars, etc. So it would be imprudent to quote the rate, because someone would surely question the validity. Suffice to say that testing 7 years ago determined that Joe Tan has a good idea! (no slight intended) The reason this works on the rear is the progressiveness of the geometry still prevents bottoming at the lower ride height. The front suspension is not progressive, so the spring rate is higher than stock to prevent bottoming, about 12%. The Eibach directions show to cut the front bump stops, but not the rear, and only for stock shocks. I recommend cutting all four bump stops. I did a lot of research before I chose springs for my car, I am not completely biased towards Eibach, I just have a lot of info. Jay Morris Clark "Bobcat" 610 with no suspension, but 6 psi front, 15 psi rear. Just finished a 3500 sq ft parking area for race car trailers.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Seat heaters in an E30 - from Jim Powell
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:09:15 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Seat heaters in an E30 On the plus side, it put my wife's headlights on highbeam. Jim Can I say highbeam on this list? Ron Buchalski wrote: > Poor baby! You must have been freezing your ass off in San Diego!
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#5. ride quality - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:06:06 -0800 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: ride quality none of the mods > i ever did fit that category. i'd say they all worsened the ride more then > they improved the handling. whhhhaaattt?!?! Dude, that's some fatty weed you're smoking. :) Admittedly, I came from a much better handling car than the stock M3. (A Miata and an S2000.) With the mods I've done to the car (STBs front and rear, stock sway bars, h&r coilovers, k-mac camber plates, gc rear shock mounts and tc kline trailing arm bushings, the M3 still rides better than either the Miata or the S2000 over most roads (except for really big drop offs) and handles better than either as well, both on the street and on the track. Remember, my M3 isn't my race car... it's what I drive to work everyday... I prefer the ride of the H&Rs to the floaty (admittedly 53K old) stock suspension. -kit, with a comfy butt 97 m3
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#6. WTB - 3.38 Rear End - from Chris Gant
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:29:54 -0600 From: "Chris Gant" <cgant@home.com> Subject: WTB - 3.38 Rear End I am looking to swap my 3.15 for a 3.38 and have not seen too many around. Does anyone know where I might find one...Would prefer a T.C. Kline or Turner built one, but a stock one will work too. Chris 95 M3
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#7. RE: [E36M3] re: Stiff suspension + Sway bars (Ron K) - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:26:57 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] re: Stiff suspension + Sway bars (Ron K) >Ron Katona says...> >If you do it the other way, going< >with softer springs and heavier bars to increase the total roll< >stiffness, you tend to start to lift wheels in the corners because of< >the action of the heavy sways.< This is the main thing that causes the factory rear sway bar tabs to break on the M3. It is not necessarily caused by putting a stiffer suspension on the car. It is caused by putting a set of springs that are not stiff enough for the thicker aftermarket sway bars. The sway bars then do more work than it needs to and breaks the mounting tabs. Just a thought of mine. Anybody else have an opinion on this? Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com
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#8. Bad brakes - from Scott G Hemauer
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:51:55 -0600 From: "Scott G Hemauer" <Scott.G.Hemauer@aexp.com> Subject: Bad brakes All wheel drive...... If you're curious go to dsm.org Scott Hemauer '94 325i '98 ML 320 '95 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX (all wheel drive) '90 Eagle Talon TSI (all wheel drive) >>>>>>>>>> The first part about biasing car brakes so much toward the front that it could pick up the back wheels is plausible I guess since it is done with ease on my bike, but I have to admit I am somewhat confused how the same car (a front wheel drive Eclipse/Talon/Laser) can pick the front wheels up in a launch on tarmac with V700s?!? Light them up maybe, but pick them up? >>>>>>>>>>
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#9. Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:39:00 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. Hi Jake! I hate to disagree but argh! I like ABS. :-) I think it is one of the best automotive inventions in the last 30 years. I'll argue that ABS can stop a car quicker than any human every time on any surface. Pretty bold statement I know ;-) Motor Trend Magazine did a test of ABS vs. threshold braking. I wish I could find the issue now! I have it somewhere if you give me time to dig it up. It is the famous one with the 3 Dinan M3's. Motor Trend used a Mercedes Benz S600 and about 40 sets of high performance tires. They tested the S600 on about 8 different surfaces - dry, wet, sand, gravel, deep fresh snow, hard packed snow, scarified snow, and glare ice. They tried 3 different braking techniques - ABS, threshold, and full lock. The drivers were Motor Trend test drivers. Extremely experienced drivers. In every single case, ABS beat both threshold and full lock except for two and one tie. The only time ABS lost by a slight margin was in gravel and on the glare ice. And I think the deep fresh snow was a tie with full lock. Threshold braking never stopped the shortest. I wish I could find the article so I could quote exact figures. I certainly agree that ABS allows you to steer and brake without losing control. That is a huge benefit. However, did you know cars with ABS rear end more vehicles than cars without ABS?? It is almost unbelievable but true. I don't know if anybody has figured out why yet. Maybe people driving ABS equipped cars think they can stop much shorter and get overconfident? Or another theory is people get scared in panic stops when the ABS starts pulsing the brake pedal and they LET OFF the brakes! Bam! Mercedes Benz invented a panic stop feature to ABS. It has a sensor that detects how fast you initially depress the brake pedal. Say in a panic stop, you react and slam on the brakes. That is human nature. But this is where people go wrong and either lift off the brakes when the ABS kicks in or don't continue to press further down on the brakes. The MB feature takes over and continues to apply the brakes harder whether you want to or not. MB assumes you started the panic stop for a reason and had better stop immediately using full ABS. Has anybody driven a late model MB? How does it feel when the brake pedal goes clear to the floor without any effort? I can imagine it must freak you out. OK, enough for now. Anybody have that Motor Trend article handy? Sean? Didn't we debate ABS a couple of years ago? :) You still have your old posts? Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas
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#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. - from Donna Seeley
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 22:49:24 -0800 From: Donna Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. > > From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. > > <snip> > Mercedes Benz invented a panic stop feature to ABS. It has a sensor that > detects how fast you initially depress the brake pedal. <> The MB feature > takes over and continues to apply the brakes harder whether you want to or > not. MB assumes you started the panic stop for a reason and had better stop > immediately using full ABS. Wouldn't that be fun at an autocross? :) Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido" 95 330isA, super-commuter 91 Dodge Ram, Guido's chauffeur