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#1. Q: 99/00 328 or a new 325 - from Patrick Barnicle
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:55:52 -0700 From: "Patrick Barnicle" <pbarnicle@novell.com> Subject: Q: 99/00 328 or a new 325 I'm considering adding a 4 door 2001 325i or 1999/2000 328i to the garage. Both are close to the same price, so I'm asking for any feedback to those who have driven them. Is the sport package worthwhile? And finally, please let me know if anyone knows how much dealers are discounting the 325i off of sticker price.
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#2. Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. - from Sean Hester
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:10:08 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Brakes, ABS, rear brakes etc. >Lowell, > >I test drove one of the C class MB's in 99, which had >the panic stop addition - I think they call it Brake >Assist. I didn't notice it continuing to brake after >I released the pedal. It did have the effect of >braking much quicker than I intended with what I >considered normal pressure. I believe the system just >adds pressure when the speed with which you depress >the brake pedal crosses some threshold. Here's what >MB's site says: i'm sure it doesn't keep the brakes going after you "release" the brake pedal. but what does "release" mean? all the way off? a little off? half way off? etc... i'm sure if you're all the way off the brakes will let go. but threshold braking requires TINY changes to the brake pedal. changes so small you can't see the pedal move. that's where the MB system is gonna cause problems (for me) if i'm in my M3, at the track, and i press the brakes too hard and the ABS comes on. i release the brakes a TINY BIT to see if the ABS goes off, if not, i release a TINY BIT more. this process repeates until the ABS goes away. it's the same technique without ABS, just replace ABS in the sentence with "tires locking up". with the MB system, once the ABS kicked in, i'd be stuck with it. i'd let off a little, and the car would say "he's an idiot, and he didn't mean to let up a bit, i'm gonna keep those brakes clamped down for him, aren't i smart.", i'd let up a bit more, and again the car would disagree with me. eventually i'd be slow enough, and let off completly and the brakes would let off. but i'd NEVER be able to get the ABS to kick off until the braking zone for the corner was over. say goodbye to trail braking. ;-( say goodbye to "let off the brake pedal smoothly so as not to transfer any weight" ;-( what a pain. i'd have to disenguage that system within minutes of buying that car. either with a switch, or pulling a fuse, or cutting a wire, or something. or else i'd have to not drive that car at the track. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#3. Slightly OT: 911t (sorry) - from Paul England
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:30:56 -0500 From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> Subject: Slightly OT: 911t (sorry) Sorry for the slightly off topic, but I just test drove a 91 911 (964) Turbo. Holy Geez! That thing felt as quick as my M3 until about 5k rpm, and then the turbine spooled up and it felt like a dump truck rearended you! First push on the gas surprised me so much, I couldn't find second. And the pedals being bottom hinged was wierd too. Now for the on-topic part. That car was violently fast (with AWESOME big reds to stop it) with only 315hp and IIRC ~3150#. If I boost my 97 M3 with either the MechTech, or one of the Vortec kits (Dinan, HMS, ERT...) or even better once Downing Atlanta finishes their Eaton kit, will the resulting 300-350hp fell like *that*? Maybe a Movit brake conversion too? Hmm. Sounds like Powell's car, huh? So what do you think, Jim? Or Paul Elliot with the Dinan? Someone else? Please don't turn this into a boost or not to boost thread. We've done that overkill. I just want to know if I can make my M3 scare the poody out of me like that 964T did, or if I'd be better off figuring out some way to add that car to the garage (it was only $37k with great dealer records). Thanks! -Paul England 97 M3/2 (hella slower than a 91 964T)
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#4. Re: Stiff suspension + Sway bars - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:39:27 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Stiff suspension + Sway bars on 1/9/01 "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> wrote: > This is the main thing that causes the factory rear sway bar tabs to break > on the M3. It is not necessarily caused by putting a stiffer suspension on > the car. It is caused by putting a set of springs that are not stiff enough > for the thicker aftermarket sway bars. The sway bars then do more work than > it needs to and breaks the mounting tabs. Just a thought of mine. Anybody > else have an opinion on this? > Seth Thomas I've seen three M3s with swaybar mount breakage so far. All three cracked the front brackets, and one (mine) also broke one rear tab and cracked the other. The front brackets are easily replaced, but the rear tabs have to be reinforced and welded. All have similarly modified suspensions - the usual spring/shock/swaybar suspects - and all are tracked. However mine also runs in the winter with stock springs/shocks but keeps the stiffer sways, which is be the configuration Seth is suspicious of. On the other hand for most of the winter I'm also running snow tires and don't drive the car hard. So who knows. I do think that any E36 which is driven hard or regularly tracked, with or without a modified suspension, should be carefully and regularly inspected for this kind of breakage. Neil 96 M3
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#5. [E36M3] re: Stiff suspension + Sway bars (Ron K) - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:18:49 -0500 From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: [E36M3] re: Stiff suspension + Sway bars (Ron K) You will find that Will Turner has been singing the same exact tune Seth....all the folks at TMS feel that aftermarket sways should not be used w/o some sort of spring/shock combo....and Will of course has just a tad of experience with suspensions :-) Regards, Steve You posted> This is the main thing that causes the factory rear sway bar tabs to break on the M3. It is not necessarily caused by putting a stiffer suspension on the car. It is caused by putting a set of springs that are not stiff enough for the thicker aftermarket sway bars. The sway bars then do more work than it needs to and breaks the mounting tabs. Just a thought of mine. Anybody else have an opinion on this? Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com
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#6. Camber Bolts - from Daniel
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:55:38 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Camber Bolts Can someone please repost the part number for the M3 front camber correction bolts? Thanks Daniel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Stock CD player and CD-R discs - from John Moore
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:29:35 -0600 From: John Moore <jrmtx@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock CD player and CD-R discs No problems with playing CD-R's on the changer in my '97. I'm using the 74 minute version. John
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Camber Bolts - from Chris Teague
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:51:23 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber Bolts >BMW Part No. 07-11-9-900-587, 10.9 Grade M12x45 > >Applicable to all 1992+ E36 3 series and Z3 vehicles. Chris Teague 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel" <m3_driver@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: [E36M3] Camber Bolts > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:55:38 -0800 (PST) > From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> > Subject: Camber Bolts > > Can someone please repost the part number for the M3 > front camber correction bolts? > > Thanks > > Daniel > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#9. RE: Inspection II - from David Hogg
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:10:15 -0800 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: RE: Inspection II My dealer did mine on BMW's dime at 33,000 miles and the last green light was still on (for a long time). And they put BMW synthetic in the car. They value my business and they'll keep getting it that way! Dave Hogg
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#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: Inspection II - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:24:17 -0800 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Inspection II how much does a stealership usually charge for a total inspection type deal? Thanks, Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: [E36M3] RE: Inspection II > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:10:15 -0800 > From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> > Subject: RE: Inspection II > > My dealer did mine on BMW's dime at 33,000 miles and the last green light > was still on (for a long time). And they put BMW synthetic in the car. > They value my business and they'll keep getting it that way! > > Dave Hogg > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >