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#1. Re: [E36M3] Inspection II - from Jim Powell
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:57:35 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inspection II Extended oil service lights don't seem to be a new thing. But they do seem to vary. I had a '95 325i Oil Service lights came on every 7500 like clockwork I had a '84 633CSI I don't think the thing would have ever come on. 12,000 and only one light out and then the rest went in 4,000. WTF? It was a new cluster etc. I have a '98 M3 Oil Service takes 16,000 I have a '90 325i Its going to hit at 7,000 it appears give or take. There seem to be two programs. 16,000 or 7500 and they aren't related to model year. Can't prove it, just seems that way. Brett may know the real answer. Jim "Thomas E. Tice" wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:48:42 -0500 > From: "Thomas E. Tice" <tetice@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inspection II > > My inspection II light came on at 33800 miles. Based on others comments on how > the computer measures (or not) wear and tear, my car must be thoroughly > abused. I bought it with about 29K miles so I don't get to take full credit > for all that fun though. > > The dealer charges back to BMW were about $380. I noticed a pamphlet in the > waiting room listing charges for an inspection II at about $650 - if I > remember correctly. Obviously BMW gets a fair discount - thus they rightfully > earn their name "STEALER." > > By the way, they did not put synthetic oil in at this change. My records from > the previous owner showed BMW synthetic at the previous changes. Did the '98 > models come from the factory with synthetic? If so I'm going to push for > another free change back to the synthetic. > > Tom Tice > '98 M3/4 > '99 540/6 - still waiting for the oil change lights to go off at 14K miles for > a free change > (changed it myself twice already though) > > reed nicholson wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 17:23:38 > > From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Inspection II > > > > Has anybody had their Inspection II come up under 36,000 miles? I'm at > > 35,900 and I swear that last green light has been on twice as long as the > > previous one. I'm starting to think BMW has the programming set to prevent > > Inspection II while it's on their dime. Anybody know? > > > > Reed/Seattle > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************
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#2. non-pole position SO2 vs. Pilot Sport - from Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:29:24 -0800 (PST) From: Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa <jbruce@stanford.edu> Subject: non-pole position SO2 vs. Pilot Sport Hi all, Its time for new tires (235/40/18) for my 18x8.5 BBS RCs. I've narrowed the choice down between the SO2 (non pole position) and Pilot Sports. I currently have SO2 Pole Positions but they have been discontinued in this size. Previously I had MXX3s on the RCs. The MMX3s had more grip than any other non R compound tire I have driven however they wore out more quickly than the Pole Positions and were not very good in the rain. I was very happy with the SO2 pole positions. They were almost as grippy as the MXX3s and more predictable. Since I haven't had room to keep a second set of track wheels around my street tires have served double duty with at least 8-10 track days a year. The SO2s performed admirably on track days and I was even able to lap ButtonWillow faster on the SO2s than on a set of borrowed Toyo RA1s. Even now with almost no tread the SO2s give decent traction in the rain. I've heard the regular SO2s don't last as long and have a more pronounced decrease in wet traction as they wear. If the Pilot Sports are better than the non-Pole position SO2s I'll try them. I would like to here from people who have tried the SO2 and the Pilot Sport or both the Pole Position SO2 and non-Pole Position SO2. How do they compare in terms of: Dry traction Predictability Wet Traction Longevity Wet traction when worn Thanks, Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '95 M3 H&R Coilovers, -2.5deg camber front, -1.8deg camber rear, 18x8.5 BBS RC with worn SO2 Pole Positions
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#3. Re: [E36M3] : Slightly OT: 911t (sorry) - from Jason Leung
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:44:31 -0600 From: Jason Leung <jleung20@flash.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] : Slightly OT: 911t (sorry) Corollary: Don't buy a stage 1. Buy a stage 2+ and you will be very very happy indeed. If you cheap out with stage 1 you will regret it. If you cheap out with anything with your BMW you will regret it. If you buy a used turbo kit, you will regret it. If you buy a used SC kit, you may regret it. B) I have AA's stage 2+, like Paul's friend in Connecticut, and I am thrilled. C) AA's OBDII kit is exactly that, OBDII. You are misinformed Matt. Why are you spreading misinformation? D) My OBD1 software for my car from AA works great. Friends make sure friends get AA Stage 2 turbos.... Jason Leung 92 332i AA turbo >-------------------- 9 -------------------- >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:35:16 -0800 (PST) >From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] : Slightly OT: 911t (sorry) > >AA's new "OBDII" kit is a reversion to OBDI. They >don't have the technology to properly make OBDI >software, much less for OBDII. Did they tell your >neighbor that his car is no longer US emissions legal? > >Friends don't let friends buy AA turbos.. > >-Matt >'95 M3 + AA Turbo
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Inspection II - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:00:48 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inspection II At 11:03 PM 1/10/01 -0600, Jim Powell wrote: >Extended oil service lights don't seem to be a new thing. But they do seem to >vary. > >I had a '95 325i Oil Service lights came on every 7500 like clockwork >I had a '84 633CSI I don't think the thing would have ever come on. 12,000 and >only one light out and then the rest went in 4,000. WTF? It was a new cluster >etc. >I have a '98 M3 Oil Service takes 16,000 >I have a '90 325i Its going to hit at 7,000 it appears give or take. > >There seem to be two programs. 16,000 or 7500 and they aren't related to model >year. Can't prove it, just seems that way. Brett may know the real answer. You're correct about there being two programs - 95 & earlier runs at about 7500 miles. But the 96+ models run at 10,000 miles (the newer E46s, and other models, *I think* are 15,000, but don't quote me). Although a bit outdated (it refers only to the 7500-mile cycle), there's info about how the SI lights count down at: http://www.peakeresearch.com/silights.shtml And, umm Jim, 16,000 miles on the M3?? Talk about driving like an old lady, sheesh. <BFG>. And yes, I'm planning on being at Buttowillow, we can discuss this further there :-) Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - about 9400 miles per SI cycle, 1st Inspection II at 36,082 (damn, so close)
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#5. High Speed Vibration - from Lew Becker
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:31:52 -0800 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: High Speed Vibration On the drive home this evening, I felt a significant vibration at 70+ mph; and, repeated it tonight, on a fairly empty freeway up to (80-85 mph). The tires were warm. It wasn't there this morning or this afternoon. Although I drove over some rough pavement (at 45-50 mph) shortly before, I didn't experiences any impacts that might have bent a wheel; I'm running high enough tire pressures to almost certainly eliminate such issues (37/36 psi); and, I carefully inspected teh wheels visually (went so far as to even spin them) and noted no irregularities). Although the vibration initially felt similar to an unbalanced wheel, upon further testing it became apparent that (a) it isn't there below 70 mph, and is above -- but the "vibration" doesn't come up to a peak at one speed and smooth out as speed increases above (up to 80-85); it continues and remains constant once it starts; and (b) it is not the steering wheel shimmy that typifies an unbalanced wheel -- although I feel the vibration primarily through the steering wheel (which does not shimmy back and forth), I also feel it through the pedals. I checked all the lug bolts for proper torque, and all the tire pressures. I also went under the car and checked the front and rear suspension pieces, and found nothing loose. There were/are no unusual clunks or other noises. I did have a recent "problem with the power steering -- dealer replaced hose clamps, refilled fluid, and told me they all have some slight vibration/noise at ~1100 rpm (and showed me another certified 97 M3 they were selling, that was pretty much the same on this count. Of course, my car just came off warranty (2 weeks ago). Any thoughts or suggestions as to cause of this problem and/or further diagnostics to isolate it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all. Lew Becker
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#6. AA Turbos - Was 99t - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: AA Turbos - Was 99t Jason, I've never heard of a real AA OBD-II setup. If they are doing it now then it's really new. Shoot, just a few months ago Karl was bragging about doing an M Coup - with an OBD-I reversion. Now, for spreading misinformation, maybe there are real OBD-II M3's out there and, if so then I'll admit that I was wrong. But as far as being wrong that's a speeding ticket compared to the murder that AA has committed. They are the ones that are _really_ spreading misinformation. How's that? First, Spending 6k+ on a Stage 1 turbo is hardly cheaping out. AA advertises this system as being a complete, bolt on solution to make 355+HP. It doesn't say anywhere "Hey, if you're a cheap bastad then we'll send you a cheap kit that will work until it blows up your engine." If you talk to Karl (before the sale) he'll say that the stage I has all of the quality and polish of the more $ kits, just less power. I chose to stick with the stage 1 becuase I autoX my car and require the best spool up and the big turbo is too laggy. Okay so we agree that the Stage 1 is a POS. Some of us have spent many hours doing the engineering work that Karl should have done on this system. We've even figured out how to fix it. And we told Karl. And what did he say? "Send your car down to FL and I'll tune it for you." BS. If he knew how to tune it he should have sent the right chips in the first place. Plus half the problem is using the wrong (and not necessarily cheaper) components. The data that we collected suggests that this GenII kit wasn't engineered at all. Engineering suggests doing a calculation, making something, measuring the results and repeat till it's done. A good turbo system should have minimal drop across the pipes and IC. Maybe 1 PSI is okay for a 7PSI system. Ours has 6PSI drop. He either never measured that or he didn't care. Not exactly the "upgrade to supercar status" that he adertises. How much pressure is dropped in your stage 2+ setup? It's okay that you don't know but I'll bet that Karl doesn't even know.. Are the stage 2 - ++ kits better? Well, in a way - they lower the compression so there's more margin for error. More margin for Karl to mask his mistakes. If he can't make decent software for the stage 1 system hy can he do it for the more $ ones? Easy, he can't - he just throws more $ hardware at the problem to compensate. So, yea, you're really happy with your stage 2 kit. But it was still poorly engineered. Do you know for a fact that adaption is enabled? It probably isn't. So not only is it not street legal but it can't adapt for spark timing either. You paid a lot of money or that system so you figure that it's gotta be good. And it is good. But if it had been properly designed the price could be much less - even with a fat profit margin. I'm not gonna try to convince you of this because $10k+ out of your pocket can support a lot of denial to convince you that you spent it well. So my words are directed at people who are thinking about buying one of their systems. -Matt --- Jason Leung <jleung20@flash.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:44:31 -0600 > From: Jason Leung <jleung20@flash.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] : Slightly OT: 911t (sorry) > > Corollary: > > Don't buy a stage 1. Buy a stage 2+ > and you will be very very happy indeed. If you > cheap out with stage 1 you will regret it. If you > cheap out with anything with your BMW you will > regret > it. If you buy a used turbo kit, you will regret > it. > If you buy a used SC kit, you may regret it. > > B) I have AA's stage 2+, like Paul's friend in > Connecticut, and I am thrilled. > > C) AA's OBDII kit is exactly that, OBDII. You > are misinformed Matt. Why are you spreading > misinformation? > > D) My OBD1 software for my car from AA works great. > > Friends make sure friends get AA Stage 2 turbos.... > > Jason Leung > 92 332i AA turbo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#7. bentley manual and stock Alarm - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:48:21 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: bentley manual and stock Alarm I've promised myself not to upgrade the car until what is now installed on the car is in perfect working order. So, my 95 that I got about 6 months ago has the alarm siren, the alarm button on the keychain, but to the best of my knowledge, the alarm will never, ever go off. It just beeps when you press the button. A reputable stereo shop tried to hook up the door locks to Does anyone know where this alarm would be if there was one? I've been told it is easy to install one, so how easy would it be to uninstall one? Maybe the entire module is missing? Does the Bentley manual have wiring diagrams for the alarm module in car preinstalled wiring? Convince me to get a Bentley! Oh, and the car still does not communicate with the MoDic computer at the dealership. Oil service lights can be reset though. And the sunroof needs fixing... Thanks Jonathan Evans 95M3 Raleigh _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] sway bars 101 - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:12:51 -0500 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] sway bars 101 Bob, The OEM rear bar end mounting point is the same as the outer (soft setting) hole for the Eibach's. When I put the Eibach bars on my car way way back, I put the Eibach's, Racing Dynamic's and the OEM bars side by side for a comparison. The Eibach bars are nearly identical to the factory bars. The mounting points for the OEM bars lined up with the outer holes for the Eibach bars. Jamie Harris (of Eastern Motorwerks) and I took a bunch of pictures but I don't know if he ever developed them. Cheers, Jim E. Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:38:52 EST > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: sway bars 101 > > Another question to ponder for the Group. > > All this talk about setting Eibach sway bar to soft/stiff, soft/soft, > etc., > etc. has me thinking (very dangerous). Based on Ben Liaw's (UUC) info, > since > the Eibach's are 26mm diameter front and 24mm diameter rear the > percentage > increase in stiffness for the '95 M3 is 78% and 155% and for the '96-'99 > M3 > 63% and 107% over OEM sways. These numbers are based on ALL other > parameters > being equal, including bar geometry. > Therefore, my question is: Based on the fact the Eibach sway bars have > two > adjustment holes...which hole lines up to be the same or nearly the same > as > the OEM sway bars??? Equal bar geometry. > Even if I use the same hole settings front/rear, based on the > calculations I > will almost be two times stiffer in the rear, those with MY95 will be > twice > as stiff. Is this correct thinking?? Did anyone lay these bars down on > the > ground to see how the holes line up compared to the OEM bars??? > > Just trying to reach a high state of BS knowledge ;-)) > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > AS Champion 1997 & 2000 > 13 BSP 2001 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************
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#9. Sunroof Auto Open/Close? Feature - from eugene han
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:12:33 -0600 From: "eugene han" <gene501@hotmail.com> Subject: Sunroof Auto Open/Close? Feature I have a 97 e36 m3 with the sunroof (or is it called a moonroof), Question: My sunroof has the one touch--slides completely back function.. but is it supposed to have a one touch- completely close function?? I can feel the notch when I depress the button all the way, but it doesn't seem to work. the dealer claims that this is an issue they come accross alot and they weren't even sure if the sunroom is supposed to close all the way or not. they mentioned that it was something in the computer or some other bs.... Has anyone else experienced this issue?? Thanks Eugene Han '97 M3 Artic White/lux.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Sunroof Auto Open/Close? Feature - from NickG
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:30:19 -0800 From: "NickG" <nikog@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sunroof Auto Open/Close? Feature Your dealer is an idiot. One-touch close is not supported in the E36 body style. Your sunroof is working just fine. Nick '95 M3 turbo > I have a 97 e36 m3 with the sunroof (or is it called a moonroof), > > Question: > > My sunroof has the one touch--slides completely back function.. but is > it supposed > to have a one touch- completely close function?? I can feel the notch > when I depress the button > all the way, but it doesn't seem to work. > > the dealer claims that this is an issue they come accross alot and they > weren't even sure if > the sunroom is supposed to close all the way or not. they mentioned > that it was something > in the computer or some other bs.... > > Has anyone else experienced this issue?? > > Thanks > > Eugene Han > '97 M3 Artic White/lux.