E36M3 #836

Thursday, January 11, 2001 17:44:19

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Unsprung Weight - from Daniel
#2. Re: bentley manual and stock Alar - from Ron Buchalski
#3. Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight - from Sean Hester
#4. LTW VIN #s - from Ron Katona
#5. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Steve Hudson
#6. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Jim Powell
#7. RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Mount, Mike
#8. Polishing headers - from Ed Tang
#9. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Jim Powell
#10. High flow cats (was: Re: Polishing headers) - from Chester Wong
#11. big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 - from eugene han

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#1. Unsprung Weight - from Daniel
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:04:20 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Unsprung Weight How important is it?...When looking at wheels with a 5Lbs difference for each wheel model? Where do we draw the line of balance between visual preference vs weight savings? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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#2. Re: bentley manual and stock Alar - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:20:11 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: bentley manual and stock Alar >From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> >To: rbuchals@hotmail.com >CC: e36m3@bmw-m.net >Subject: Re: bentley manual and stock Alar >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:45:52 > >Wow Ron, thanks for the operational details. I was a bit vague in my first >post, so here we go: > >Doors unlocked but closed, hood and trunk closed. I press the button to >arm/lock and a I get one bwoop-beep. That's it, no siren, no door locks. >I can't remember if the parking lights flashed or not. > >Doors locked but closed, hodd and trunk closed. One beep. Same thing. > >Doors open, same thing. > >Hood open, same thing. > >Holding down button in any mode, same thing. > >I think even sitting in car with it running it would just give the quick >one-two beep and that's it. Well, the keychain remote for my car has three buttons...Lock/Unlock, Double Lock/Arm, and Panic. To arm the alarm system, I need to press the Lock/Unlock button (and I'll hear a single chirp from the alarm siren) and then press the Double Lock/Arm button (and I'll hear two chirps from the alarm siren). At that time, the alarm system is armed, and the LED on the console will flash once every second. It sounds like you're not pressing the Double Lock/Arm button to arm the system. Or, maybe you need to press the button twice...once to lock the car, and a second time to arm the system? > >So, I now have the unit on my desk. Part number 82 11 1 469 445. I >noticed the cable that comes out of it did have several pigtails off of it, >one seemingly ominous wire going to what I think is the K-40 radar >detector. I think that it is wired for 12V. Sounds like the previous owner did a little "experimenting"... >One factory looking one seems to go to another pigtail of wires. If I remember correctly, on my system there is a connector for the LED/glass breakage microphone, a connector for the door and trunk indicators, and a separate connector for the hood switch. On my car, the hood switch wasn't hooked up, and I found the hood switch wire buried between the wire harness and the firewall. The connector on the hood switch wire mates to the connector on the alarm control unit's harness, so it's pretty obvious what the connector is for. > >And of course it has a little ground wire that is capped off and does not >go to anything. Does anyone have an installation This may be the wire for your hood switch. >instruction packet for this thing? I'll see if I can get a good 12V from >the source, but it looks like the Bentley for Ohming out the wires and >checking connections. I'm not sure if we have the same alarm system, but I have the book that came with the system. I'll check and see if I have the same alarm control unit in my car. -rb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:24:25 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight >How important is it?...When looking at wheels with a >5Lbs difference for each wheel model? 5 lbs is ALOT. heck that's about a 25% difference. >Where do we draw the line of balance between visual >preference vs weight savings? that's a tougher one. but (for me) it's below 5 lbs for sure. meaning i'd rather have an uglier wheel if it were 5 lbs lighter. but 3 lbs? i dunno... ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#4. LTW VIN #s - from Ron Katona
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:28:12 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: LTW VIN #s I'm looking for the at least the last seven digits of a LTW VIN # so I can research some LTW only parts (if possible). Yes, I have plans if the LTW and regular M3s ever end up on the same line of the Solo-II rulebook in SP! -- Ron Katona

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Steve Hudson
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:29:12 -0600 From: "Steve Hudson" <shudson@io.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets SCCA Solo II rules say helmets are legal that meet current Snell standards and the previous two standards. Current standard is 2000 so helmets meeting '90 and '95 standards are legal, the '85 is not. I believe that SCCA club racing requires a helmet that meet only one previous standard, so '90 helmets are not legal for road racing. This applies to SCCA, your club's rules may be different. Steve Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:43 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:31:28 -0600 > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > Yeah, but I was alarmed by a recent statement in my SCCA regional (St > Louis) newsletter. Said something about 95 or better . . . > > I guess my question is: As far as SCCA is concerned, when will my SA90 > helmet expire? > > -----Original Message----- > From: peter@guagenti.com [ mailto:peter@guagenti.com > <mailto:peter@guagenti.com> ] > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:21 AM > To: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR; E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > According to posted SCCA rules, it's '90 or better (usually current, > plus last > two generations). > > -p > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:53:49 -0600 > > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@SCOTT.AF.MIL> > > Subject: Autocross Helmets > > > > > > Question for the Solo II racers out there: is my Snell 90 Bell helmet > > > still good for this season (2001)????? > > > > ------------end > > > > Cod > > Major Chris Darling > > HQ AMC/CEXR > > DSN 779-0698, Comm (618) 229-0698 > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------- > This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. > http://www.hispeed.com <http://www.hispeed.com> > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:48:33 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets Does anyone even have a '90 helmet with an intact liner? Ewwww! Jim Steve Hudson wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:29:12 -0600 > From: "Steve Hudson" <shudson@io.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > SCCA Solo II rules say helmets are legal that meet current Snell standards > and the previous two standards. Current standard is 2000 so helmets meeting > '90 and '95 standards are legal, the '85 is not. I believe that SCCA club > racing requires a helmet that meet only one previous standard, so '90 > helmets are not legal for road racing. This applies to SCCA, your club's > rules may be different. > Steve Hudson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:43 PM > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:31:28 -0600 > > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > > > > Yeah, but I was alarmed by a recent statement in my SCCA regional (St > > Louis) newsletter. Said something about 95 or better . . . > > > > I guess my question is: As far as SCCA is concerned, when will my SA90 > > helmet expire? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: peter@guagenti.com [ mailto:peter@guagenti.com > > <mailto:peter@guagenti.com> ] > > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:21 AM > > To: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR; E36M3 > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > > > > According to posted SCCA rules, it's '90 or better (usually current, > > plus last > > two generations). > > > > -p > > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:53:49 -0600 > > > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@SCOTT.AF.MIL> > > > Subject: Autocross Helmets > > > > > > > > > Question for the Solo II racers out there: is my Snell 90 Bell helmet > > > > > still good for this season (2001)????? > > > > > > ------------end > > > > > > Cod > > > Major Chris Darling > > > HQ AMC/CEXR > > > DSN 779-0698, Comm (618) 229-0698 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > > list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------- > > This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. > > http://www.hispeed.com <http://www.hispeed.com> > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:05:12 -0800 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets That's why 'soap' was invented. (say,... who's the guy who ordered condoms by the gross?) Mike '95 M3 drive it like you just stole it! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Powell [mailto:jsp98m3@apexcone.com] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:53 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:48:33 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets Does anyone even have a '90 helmet with an intact liner? Ewwww! Jim Steve Hudson wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:29:12 -0600 > From: "Steve Hudson" <shudson@io.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > SCCA Solo II rules say helmets are legal that meet current Snell standards > and the previous two standards. Current standard is 2000 so helmets meeting > '90 and '95 standards are legal, the '85 is not. I believe that SCCA club > racing requires a helmet that meet only one previous standard, so '90 > helmets are not legal for road racing. This applies to SCCA, your club's > rules may be different. > Steve Hudson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:43 PM > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:31:28 -0600 > > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@scott.af.mil> > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > > > > Yeah, but I was alarmed by a recent statement in my SCCA regional (St > > Louis) newsletter. Said something about 95 or better . . . > > > > I guess my question is: As far as SCCA is concerned, when will my SA90 > > helmet expire? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: peter@guagenti.com [ mailto:peter@guagenti.com > > <mailto:peter@guagenti.com> ] > > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:21 AM > > To: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR; E36M3 > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets > > > > > > According to posted SCCA rules, it's '90 or better (usually current, > > plus last > > two generations). > > > > -p > > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:53:49 -0600 > > > From: Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR <chris.darling@SCOTT.AF.MIL> > > > Subject: Autocross Helmets > > > > > > > > > Question for the Solo II racers out there: is my Snell 90 Bell helmet > > > > > still good for this season (2001)????? > > > > > > ------------end > > > > > > Cod > > > Major Chris Darling > > > HQ AMC/CEXR > > > DSN 779-0698, Comm (618) 229-0698 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > > list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------- > > This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. > > http://www.hispeed.com <http://www.hispeed.com> > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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#8. Polishing headers - from Ed Tang
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:20:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Polishing headers Chester wrote: > Subject: Smoothing/Polishing inside header surfaces > > Just wondering how difficult it is to polish and > smooth the inside of a '96+ M3 > header. Whenever you hear of car tuners, you always > hear that they polished > and I would assume smooothed the insides of the > header. How difficult is this > task? Also, any ideas on where to get supplies? > Skip? > > Thanks, > Chester I believe you can extrude hone the headers to wisk away imperfections in the metal. They shoot a silly putty through the header and supposedly it comes out smooth. They do it for throttle bodies and intake headers/plenums (metal-we get the plastic ones). The Ford Contour SVT has this process done with some other intake mods for a 20 hp gain. I don't believe the gains justify the costs though. I called the company a couple years back when it was first introduced and they quoted something pretty high to get only minimal gains. Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:25:32 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets What a concept ;) Jim I don't do that kinda stuff anymore. I've gone legit. "Mount, Mike" wrote: > That's why 'soap' was invented. (say,... who's the guy who ordered > condoms by the gross?) >

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#10. High flow cats (was: Re: Polishing headers) - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:34:12 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: High flow cats (was: Re: Polishing headers) Well, let me ask this question: If all along people are saying that SuperSprint headers are useless without taking out the cats, then why haven't people used high flow cats? What would be the benefit if we just replaced the OE cats with high flow models? You can still make it such that you retained the factory locations of the O2 sensors. Then you'd have no problem with OBDII, right? Then if after you went with high flow cats, what would stop someone from going with SuperSprint headers? Any thoughts? Chester > I believe you can extrude hone the headers to wisk > away imperfections in the metal. They shoot a silly > putty through the header and supposedly it comes out > smooth. They do it for throttle bodies and intake > headers/plenums (metal-we get the plastic ones). The > Ford Contour SVT has this process done with some other > intake mods for a 20 hp gain. I don't believe the > gains justify the costs though. I called the company a > couple years back when it was first introduced and > they quoted something pretty high to get only minimal > gains. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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#11. big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 - from eugene han
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:40:42 -0600 From: "eugene han" <gene501@hotmail.com> Subject: big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 I was about to order this when I saw a note about 'some late model cars require the clutch be completely depressed in order to start the engine' Anyone install one of these in a 97 or later car with success?? Thanks, Eugene Han 97 Alpine White ///M3, Lux---(anyone wanna trade gray power lux seats for the cushy normal ones??)

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