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#1. Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight - from Daniel
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:47:05 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight Whats the improvement reducing unsprung weight? Dan --- Sean Hester <seanh_race@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:24:25 -0800 > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight > > >How important is it?...When looking at wheels with > a > >5Lbs difference for each wheel model? > > 5 lbs is ALOT. heck that's about a 25% difference. > > >Where do we draw the line of balance between visual > >preference vs weight savings? > > that's a tougher one. but (for me) it's below 5 lbs > for sure. meaning i'd > rather have an uglier wheel if it were 5 lbs > lighter. but 3 lbs? i > dunno... ;-) > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:56:06 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight >Whats the improvement reducing unsprung weight? your car has to spend lots of power (torque really) getting the wheels rotating. this is along with moving the weight of the car. i'm too lazy to do the physics for you here, but radial acceleration physics shows that 1 pound on a 17 inch wheel is a big deal. something like 10 pounds of "sprung" weight. so... 4 wheels, 5 lbs heavier each, is like adding 200 lbs to your car. UGH!!! P.S. this "radial acceleration" thing is why people get lightweight flywheels too. a couple pounds less on the flywheel makes for pretty noticable acceleration. it also effects the suspension alot. your suspension has to deal with everything hanging on it. (wheels, tires, brakes, etc...) the more weight it's trying to move up and down the slower things work and the worse your car handles. try to move your hand up and down really fast. now try to do it holding a 5 pound weight. see the difference? 5 pounds a wheel is enough to notice in the handling department. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Donna Seeley
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:08:01 -0800 From: Donna Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets Two separate statements, Jim, and two different concepts. Even if we were to take your word on the first one, the second is just too silly - did you write that with a straight face? :) :) Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido" 95 330isA, super-commuter 91 Dodge Ram, Guido's chauffeur > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > I don't do that kinda stuff anymore. I've gone legit. > >> "Mount, Mike" wrote: >> >> That's why 'soap' was invented. (say,... who's the guy who ordered >> condoms by the gross?) >> >
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#4. heated seat problem - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:08:34 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: heated seat problem Group, Has anyone experienced the seat warmer burning a hole in the leather? Yesterday, I noticed a small brown "stain" toward the back end of the bottom cushion part of the driver's seat. Well, today I tried to use leather cleaner on it...no help. Got suspicious, so I turned the butt warmer on high and in about 5 minutes that spot was RED HOT to the touch...burning my seat! That's what the spot is..a burn mark!!! This is my 5th winter in the car, first problem of this kind. They are great for the cold mornings here, especially this winter, but burning up my seat is not an option. Any suggestions? Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 13 BSP 2001
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:18:32 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Autocross Helmets I was temporarily taken over by aliens. On a serious note, I'm on a journey from being a thoroughly evil person to, hopefully, something good. First I quit trying to kill people. Then I gave up selling narcotics. I've sworn off being a pimp and one of these days I just *possibly* might not be an a**hole. All of the above have cost me a great deal of income. They may have extended my lifespan, certainly others are still around that wouldn't be otherwise.. And that was the first goal. I do sleep better at night. That was the second goal. Its nice to know I have made a couple of friends from the population of normal people along the way. Still a J'A'P, maybe someday a Jim, but you aren't getting quiche recipes. Ever :) Donna Seeley wrote: > Two separate statements, Jim, and two different concepts. Even if we were to > take your word on the first one, the second is just too silly - did you > write that with a straight face? > > :) :) > > Donna > ------- > 88 M3, "Guido" > 95 330isA, super-commuter > 91 Dodge Ram, Guido's chauffeur > > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > > > I don't do that kinda stuff anymore. I've gone legit. > > > >> "Mount, Mike" wrote: > >> > >> That's why 'soap' was invented. (say,... who's the guy who ordered > >> condoms by the gross?) > >> > >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] heated seat problem - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:21:42 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] heated seat problem Your seat has several metal rods running across it attaching the leather with metal hog rings. I suspect that one of the bars or hog rings has worn through a conductor element causing a short. Electrical shorts get very hot. Stop using the heater while the heating element still works. Have the seat taken apart and replace the leather. Or at least correct the short and insulate the heating pad to prevent reoccurence. Jim Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:08:34 EST > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: heated seat problem > > Group, > > Has anyone experienced the seat warmer burning a hole in the leather? > Yesterday, I noticed a small brown "stain" toward the back end of the > bottom > cushion part of the driver's seat. Well, today I tried to use leather > cleaner on it...no help. Got suspicious, so I turned the butt warmer on > high > and in about 5 minutes that spot was RED HOT to the touch...burning my > seat! > That's what the spot is..a burn mark!!! This is my 5th winter in the > car, > first problem of this kind. They are great for the cold mornings here, > especially this winter, but burning up my seat is not an option. > Any suggestions? > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > AS Champion 1997 & 2000 > 13 BSP 2001 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************
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#7. Re: [E36M3] big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 - from Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:58:57 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 we have many customers with 97-99 M3s that use our new Big Boy clutch stop with no problems. ben ------------------------------------------- ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "eugene han" <gene501@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:43 PM Subject: [E36M3] big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:40:42 -0600 > From: "eugene han" <gene501@hotmail.com> > Subject: big boy clutch stop on 97 m3 > > > I was about to order this when I saw a note about > > 'some late model cars require the clutch > be completely depressed in order to start the engine' > > Anyone install one of these in a 97 or later car with > success?? > > Thanks, > > Eugene Han > 97 Alpine White ///M3, Lux---(anyone wanna trade gray power lux seats > for the cushy normal ones??) > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#8. Re: Unsubscribe - from KKASPER4@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:36:34 EST From: KKASPER4@aol.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Unsubscribe digest
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:56 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight Sean, If you do the math you'll see that 1 lb of weight at the outside of the tire is worth 2lbs in sprung weight. Not that big a deal for acceleration. Plus all of the weight isn't at the outside of the tire so the real ratio is less. This doesn't consider the suspension performance WRT unsprung weight, just the acceleration and braking. Now the flywheel makes a much bigger difference. -Matt --- Sean Hester <seanh_race@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:56:06 -0800 > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Unsprung Weight > > >Whats the improvement reducing unsprung weight? > > your car has to spend lots of power (torque really) > getting the wheels > rotating. this is along with moving the weight of > the car. i'm too lazy to > do the physics for you here, but radial acceleration > physics shows that 1 > pound on a 17 inch wheel is a big deal. something > like 10 pounds of > "sprung" weight. so... 4 wheels, 5 lbs heavier > each, is like adding 200 > lbs to your car. UGH!!! > > P.S. this "radial acceleration" thing is why people > get lightweight > flywheels too. a couple pounds less on the flywheel > makes for pretty > noticable acceleration. > > it also effects the suspension alot. your > suspension has to deal with > everything hanging on it. (wheels, tires, brakes, > etc...) the more weight > it's trying to move up and down the slower things > work and the worse your > car handles. try to move your hand up and down > really fast. now try to do > it holding a 5 pound weight. see the difference? 5 > pounds a wheel is > enough to notice in the handling department. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
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#10. brown stains in seats??? - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:59:31 -0800 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: brown stains in seats??? -----Original Message----- From: Mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:13 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] heated seat problem Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:08:34 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: heated seat problem Hmmm, since I don't have heated seats, I can't say my experience was *exactly* as Bob described. Mine was more like when the front end washed out, then the back oversteered and we kind of *headed towards the wall* at turn 3 at Laguna Seca with the BMWCCA-LA gang in November.... Mike '95 M3 - drive it like you just stole it - da kar is yellow <gratuitous snipping going on here ...> Yesterday, I noticed a small brown "stain" toward the back end of the bottom cushion part of the driver's seat. Well, today <snip again...> Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe