E36M3 #854

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:51:47

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: GT3 Brakes on M3 - from Neil Maller
#2. RE: [E36M3] My new M3 - from Seth Thomas
#3. RE: Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires - from Steve Hazard
#4. Re: [E36M3] Seat belt tensioner question - from Andrej Dolenc
#5. New Parts Source - from DiVincenti, A.J.
#6. Re: Seat belt tensioner question - from Neil Maller
#7. Stock Springs - from DiVincenti, A.J.
#8. Re: Chester's wheel experience - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
#9. RE: Speaking of tires... (Kuhmo) 712s - from tsalva@ix.netcom.com
#10. Re: GT3 Brakes - from Ron Buchalski
#11. Re: [E36M3] Stock Springs - from Sean Hester

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#1. Re: GT3 Brakes on M3 - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:40:02 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: GT3 Brakes on M3 on 1/16/01 15:31, "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> wrote: > Just installed a set of 380mm brakes (with 996 turbo/GT3 calipers) on an M3 > this morning. .........see http://www.ultimategarage.com/BMW380m.jpg . I'm > not crazy about the 20" AZEV wheels...they make the brakes look tiny. Rear > brakes are 322mm. SD Tiny!??? Since 380mm equals 15.0", these rotors are as big in diameter as the RIMS of most cars on the road! Neil 96 M3

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#2. RE: [E36M3] My new M3 - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:53:53 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] My new M3 Sorry guys. My mind is not working this morning. Try this link. http://www.m3ltw.com/e30_m3.htm Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Seth Thomas [mailto:porsche993@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:31 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] My new M3 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:16:38 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: My new M3 Guys, Since I now know that my email is working lets try this. I quickly put together a page with some new pics of my new car. It is not an E36 M3 but it does have a few E36 M3 parts on it. Here is the link: www.m3ltw.com/e30_m3 Let me know what you think. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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#3. RE: Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:52:14 -0500 From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: RE: Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires Roman, if your looking to purchase an inexpensive 245/40 that is fun to drive look at the Bridgestone RE71's.....I run these at $108 per tire on my street rims....With 2.7 Degrees of Neg Camber up front and 2 degrees rear running a $250 street tire makes no sense...at least to me..... Just do me a favor Roman don't buy the last set! I'm going to need four more this Spring and the quantities are limited at the TIre Rack! The RE71 along with the SP 8000's were top of the line Ultra HP tires 6-7 years ago....IMHO they give up very little in the way of performance to the current in vouge tires that cost $180-$250 each....Of course I have R compounds to play on also for Solo II and track time.....YMMV..... Steve -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:10:07 -0800 From: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> Subject: Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires Hi All, Have any of you had any experience with the Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires? I was on this website called http://www.whalentire.com and saw the 245/40/17 for sale for $109.00 each. Are these good tires? How do they stack up to the Michelin Pilots? Thanks, Roman S. 96 ///M3 Sliding around corners is really fun!!! > **************************************************************

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Seat belt tensioner question - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:26:03 -0600 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Seat belt tensioner question > How do you tell on a '95 M3 with manual seats if the seat belt > tensioner (pre-pirotechnics) has been activated? I took my M3 into an > upholstry shop to have the pasenger seat fixed. They just unbolted the > seat, unplugged 2 wires and pulled it out. Should they have disarmed the > seat belt tensioner first? My understanding was that by unplugging those wires you disarm the seat belt tensioners. Just make sure that you don't turn the car on while that wire is unplugged - it will set the airbag idiot light which will then need to be reset by the dealer. Andrej '97 M3

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#5. New Parts Source - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:40:26 -0600 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: New Parts Source I found this great new site for parts. They have a brilliant lowering kit and a great price for synthetic blinker fluid. Steve D. may be in trouble. http://www.84to96.net/kaleco/ A.J. DiVincenti

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#6. Re: Seat belt tensioner question - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:40:51 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Seat belt tensioner question on 1/17/01 9:41, Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa <jbruce@stanford.edu> wrote: > How do you tell on a '95 M3 with manual seats if the seat belt > tensioner (pre-pyrotechnics) has been activated? I took my M3 into an > upholstry shop to have the passenger seat fixed. They just unbolted the > seat, unplugged 2 wires and pulled it out. Should they have disarmed the > seat belt tensioner first? Your spring-type tensioner is triggered via a mechanical cable, so unplugging the seat electrics did not disarm the system. If it had been activated, the stalk of your belt receptacle would now be noticeably shorter. > Should they have disarmed the seat belt tensioner first? Not if they were careful, or lucky... Neil 96 M3

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#7. Stock Springs - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:20:07 -0600 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: Stock Springs Ok, with that said, if you keep the stock springs but would like to upgrade your worn out shocks\struts, what would be a good choice of damper that is tuned for the stock spring other than OEM. I've had people suggest if you do suspension, do both springs and shocks together. I don't want to end up overdamped or underdamped. So what damper to use with the stock spring? Maybe the way to go would be the TC Kline Street Line Kit. I am wondering if that would be enough "bang for the buck", if you know what I mean. Are Bilsteins and Konis valved for the OEM springs? aj -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:10:17 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 dinan stage 3 susp questions I hear ya, bro. I went with the H&R sports then the Eibachs and I think I'm headding back to the stock spring. One thing to keep in mind is that the M3 was designed with the stock ride height in mind. Changing the ride height will affect geometry. Obviously Camber and toe will change (fixable) but doesn't lowering the car also affect bump steer and stuff like that? Or Roll Centers? I'm wondering if we aren't giving up nearly as much performance as we gain. Factor in the harsh ride and it's no wonder that Dinan only drops a smidge. -Matt

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#8. Re: Chester's wheel experience - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:46:47 -0500 From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: Chester's wheel experience Watch it, Ronnie. Your maturity odometer just cycled over to immaturity. My usual "Wrestle With Pigs Day" is Tuesday. Missed your chance, I can't get muddy and let you enjoy it today. - Rob > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:29:55 EST > From: RonStygar@aol.com > Subject: Re: Chester's wheel experience > > Chester, > Be careful. Keep in mind that Robby has a Masters in Bullshit. > Ron >

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#9. RE: Speaking of tires... (Kuhmo) 712s - from tsalva@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:23:55 -0500 (EST) From: tsalva@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: Speaking of tires... (Kuhmo) 712s Hello Scott, I have the Ecsta 712s (in stock staggered sizes) on my 98 M3/4. I replaced the OEM MXX3s a few months ago with the Kumhos, the only diff. I have noticed is they are less sticky then the MXX3s. This I expected since their wear rating is approx. double the Michelins. This does not concern me much as I use Yoko A032Rs for track and Pirelli Winter Ice Assem. in winter (on the M3 now). IMHO they are an incredible value for the $. FYI: I bought them through my local Discount Tire store who matched the price of Discount Tire Direct (mail order) at about $100. each. plus mountin.g Thomas Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:37:57 -0600 From: "Scott ." <whosez@hotmail.com> Subject: Speaking of tires... (Kuhmo) Has anyone on the list tried any of the now-a-few-months-old Kuhmo ECSTA Supra tires yet?? Tirerack still has very low low low prices for these shoes. For an M3, are they worth buying at half the price of the more well known tires? (or are they more like a Sumitomo's with a different name?) -Scott 98 M3/2

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#10. Re: GT3 Brakes - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:42 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: GT3 Brakes Steve writes: > >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:29:23 -0500 >From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> >Subject: GT3 Brakes > >Steve, >This just isn't any M3...it's a e46M3!!!!!!!!! Where, how, >who.....geeezzz;-)) >============================================== >This was our 2nd E46 M3 installation (in Germany). The stock brakes use >325x28 mm crossdrilled rotors, single piston floating calipers (cast iron >weighing approx 13 lbs each). The GT3 Long Distance brakes use the GT3's >4-piston monoblock calipers weighing 7.5 lbs each and rotors with 380x32mm >and cast holes. Here's the car after the fronts have been installed (we >didn't get a chance to put on the 322mm rears >yet)....http://www.ultimategarage.com/E46M3Sideview.JPG . > What an UGLY look! All it needs now is some dark window tint, chrome on those wheels, a "quad" coffee can exhaust system, and some neon undercarriage lights to complete the package. Oh, and don't forget about the 1000 watt amp to drive the quad 15" subwoofers for booming bass notes. Sheesh, you'd think that people with the money to spend on an E46 M3 would have some TASTE when it comes to respectable mods. -rb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#11. Re: [E36M3] Stock Springs - from Sean Hester
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:43:24 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Springs >Ok, with that said, if you keep the stock springs but would like to upgrade >your worn out shocks\struts, what would be a good choice of damper that is >tuned for the stock spring other than OEM. I've had people suggest if you >do suspension, do both springs and shocks together. I don't want to end up >overdamped or underdamped. So what damper to use with the stock spring? >Maybe the way to go would be the TC Kline Street Line Kit. I am wondering >if that would be enough "bang for the buck", if you know what I mean. Are >Bilsteins and Konis valved for the OEM springs? well... konis are adjustible. so they're valved for ANY springs. ;-) i used konis with stock springs for years. if you set the rears to 1/2 turn from full soft, and the fronts at 3/4 turn from full soft, they'll match up perfectly to stock springs. any other aftermarket shock will be overdamping the stock springs. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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