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#1. RE: Stock Springs - from Gardner, Russell - BALTO
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:12:50 -0500 From: "Gardner, Russell - BALTO" <russell.gardner@piperrudnick.com> Subject: RE: Stock Springs Ron Buchalski wrote in #856 (January 17), "I believe this [TC Kline StreetLine kit] is the setup that a fellow CCA member has on his '95 M3. He consulted with TC Kline prior to purchasing his suspension, and it consists of Koni dampers and H&R springs. "I drove it last fall, and it felt great. The car felt planted, it was responsive, and it didn't seem to be any harsher on bumps than my stock-suspended '95 M3. When it's suspension time, I'd seriously consider this package for my car. "He also added the TC Kline rear control arm bushings, which seem to have cured the rear-end "squirreliness" that he was experiencing at the track.[end]" The E36M3 Ron speaks of is mine, and I'm pleased that he enjoyed it. Folks with some experience, e.g., Woody Hare, have driven it and pronounced it the most neutral E36M3 they had ever seen. The setup on the car is TC Kline's TrackLine kit, not the StreetLine kit. This kit features the stiffer H&R Sport springs and Koni s/a. Sway bars are stock. Other suspension mods, in addition to TC's trailing arm bushing (get it!), include an X-brace and Motorsport strut brace. Tires (when Ron drove it) are 235x40 AO32s on LTW wheels. Street tires are SO2s on 8.5" rims. I use the car as a daily driver, including regular road trips of 200-300 miles. The car also sees 16-20 track days/year. I have no association of any kind with TC except as a very satisfied customer. Russ Gardner NCC ____________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this communication may be confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. Thank you. For more information about Piper Marbury Rudnick & Wolfe, please visit us at http://www.piperrudnick.com/ ____________________________________________________________________________
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Rear Trailing Arm Bushings - from James Dye
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:21:27 -0800 From: James Dye <jamesdye@goldenmanor.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Trailing Arm Bushings Looks like it is time to replace the rear trailing arm (toe) bushings in my 1995 M3. Dinan says use stock parts. Conversion Techniques says use a urethane part. TC Kline has an after market aluminum part. My car is a street car with a Dinan Stage III suspension. I am looking for long life, moderate to no down side (noise, cracking of other related parts due to stress, etc.) Any recommendations? Jim Dye Danville, CA
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#3. Wheel change - from Patrick Mallon
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:12:34 -0800 From: "Patrick Mallon" <zez413@home.com> Subject: Wheel change I am considering selling the M double spoke II's that are currently on my 98 M3/2 and replacing them with the M Contour wheel. Does any one have any input regarding this idea. - How much would I expect to sell the double spokes for? ( they are in good condition - no nicks or roadrash just normal wear and tear) - How much would I expect to pay for a nice set of used M contours? New / Used - Where can I get the wheels I am looking for? Private/retail? - etc. Patrick Mallon 98 M3 /2 ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others!
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#4. Re: 95 M3 vs. E46 330i. - from Steve Sharp
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:34:42 -0800 From: Steve Sharp <steve.sharp@xilinx.com> Subject: Re: 95 M3 vs. E46 330i. > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:11:48 +0800 > From: Jay Sala <jsala@mist.com> > Subject: 95 M3 vs. E46 330i. Was: 95 M3 for sale w/ mods > > Hmm, besides gaining 2 extra doors, what led you to replace the M3 coupe > with a 330i sedan? What is it like to drive the 2 cars back to back > (especially if you can recall what the M3 was like when it was stock)? > > On paper, the M3 has a bit more power and torque, but not by much. I > assume the M3 has a firmer, sportier ride, and the 330i is more refined. > Brake rotors on the 330i are M3 size now -- how does braking compare? > Of course, if your 330i doesn't have Sport suspension and 17" wheels, > there will be no comparison in handling/braking. > > In reality, what is it like? How big is the difference? > > Thanks, > > - Jay Jay, I drive a '97 M3/2 in AS-class autocross trim (stock springs, Konis, stock 17" wheels, etc.). My wife has a new 330i 4-door with sport package (5-speed) due in the end of January and I'll post my back-to-back comparison impressions to the list as soon as we get the new beast broken in a little. I'm wondering if the final drive in the 330i is taller so that it won't have the "snap" in 2nd or 3rd gear that my M3 has? We'll see... Steve Sharp
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Warning! Unethical parts sale - from NickG
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:41:32 -0800 From: "NickG" <nikog@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warning! Unethical parts sale Sounds like a road trip to Ohio is in order? <lol> Nick ps. Jon Marshall goes by the name JP///M3.2 on bimmer.org > I would like to let everyone on the list know about a person out there > in the BMW community who is a liar and a cheat. > > Jon Marshall in the Columbus Ohio area. He goes by the email address of > jpbikeworld@yahoo.com > > This guy sold a cheap knockoff lightweight-style rear wing to a friend > as if it was the factory original. He's been spotted selling other BMW > equipment on bimmer.org and probably other venues as well. > > Jon Marshall if you read this and have a problem with it, please come on > out and see me. I'd be happy to apologize to what's left of you. Do > the right thing and give the money back. > > Jim Powell
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#6. Re: [E36M3] A Cautionary Tale - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] A Cautionary Tale Seems like we can use e-bay's feedback forum to sink this dude's feedback into the negative abyss. If you can post pictures so that we can verify it's a cheap fake, then I'm sure people with e-bay userids will be happy to help. BTW, this dude is JP///M3.2 on bimmer.org. <http://cgi2.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?LeaveFeedbackShow&useridto=jpbikeworld> Chester --- Ned Coonen <ncoonen@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:44:37 -0600 > From: "Ned Coonen" <ncoonen@hotmail.com> > Subject: A Cautionary Tale > > Be careful buying parts on ebay. I just purchased what turned out to be a > cheap knock-off E36 M3 Lightweight wing. Take a look for yourself and see if > you think it sounds genuine. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=533222515&r=0 > > (Note that the picture is of a real LTW with a real wing - not what was sold > and shipped.) > > Here are some general tips: > > -- Don't accept "Yes, it's the real thing" or "It's complete" as an answer > to an inquiry email. Get pictures and part numbers of the parts you are > buying. > > -- Use a Postal Money Order for payment. The USPS takes a dim view of fraud. > > -- Look around the web at what the seller has listed elsewhere and at items > already sold. Lots of positive feedback may only mean that previous > purchasers don't know what they've purchased or are satisfied with bogus > trademark goods. > > -- Know what you are looking for including part numbers and exact > descriptions. We'd all like to think that ebay is one big happy community. > It isn't. For BMW parts, ask for help here if you aren't sure. Many here > have access to exact part numbers. > > Thanks...ned. > '98 M3 > '88 M2 x 2 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#7. RE: [E36M3] A Cautionary Tale - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:09:26 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] A Cautionary Tale Don't do anything like this yet. Things might change in the next day or two. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] A Cautionary Tale Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] A Cautionary Tale Seems like we can use e-bay's feedback forum to sink this dude's feedback into the negative abyss. If you can post pictures so that we can verify it's a cheap fake, then I'm sure people with e-bay userids will be happy to help. BTW, this dude is JP///M3.2 on bimmer.org. <http://cgi2.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?LeaveFeedbackShow&user idto=jpbikeworld> Chester --- Ned Coonen <ncoonen@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:44:37 -0600 > From: "Ned Coonen" <ncoonen@hotmail.com> > Subject: A Cautionary Tale > > Be careful buying parts on ebay. I just purchased what turned out to be a > cheap knock-off E36 M3 Lightweight wing. Take a look for yourself and see if > you think it sounds genuine. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=533222515& r=0 > > (Note that the picture is of a real LTW with a real wing - not what was sold > and shipped.) > > Here are some general tips: > > -- Don't accept "Yes, it's the real thing" or "It's complete" as an answer > to an inquiry email. Get pictures and part numbers of the parts you are > buying. > > -- Use a Postal Money Order for payment. The USPS takes a dim view of fraud. > > -- Look around the web at what the seller has listed elsewhere and at items > already sold. Lots of positive feedback may only mean that previous > purchasers don't know what they've purchased or are satisfied with bogus > trademark goods. > > -- Know what you are looking for including part numbers and exact > descriptions. We'd all like to think that ebay is one big happy community. > It isn't. For BMW parts, ask for help here if you aren't sure. Many here > have access to exact part numbers. > > Thanks...ned. > '98 M3 > '88 M2 x 2 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#8. Alignment Specs & Advice - from Daniel
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Alignment Specs & Advice Here are the alignment specs lifted off the Bentley Manual and the Hunter Enginnering printout as to what the correct setting should be It is interesting to note that they are not the same: Bentley Manual: Left Front Toe +5' (+/- 2.5') Right Front Toe +5' (+/- 2.5') Left Front Camber -46' (+/- 30') Right Front Camber -46' (+/- 30') Left Rear Toe +15' (+/- 3') Right Rear Toe +15' (+/- 3') Left Rear Camber -1degree 45' (+/- 10') Right Rear Camber -1degree 45' (+/- 10') Huunter: Left Front Toe +0.17degrees (+/- .04degrees) Right Front Toe +0.17degrees (+/- .04degrees) Left Front Camber -0.8degrees (+/- 0.5degrees) Right Front Camber -0.8degrees (+/- 0.5degrees) Left Rear Toe +0.17degrees (+/- .04degrees) Right Rear Toe +0.17degrees (+/- .04degrees) Left Rear Camber -1.8degrees (+/- 0.2degrees) Right Rear Camber -1.8degrees (+/- 0.2degrees) Bentley manual suggest loading the car with weights in the respective seats and a full tank of gas. Hunter says that the M3 chassis requires no loading, just a full tank of gas. Am I reading this wrong or are the specs presented in 2 different formats? Any advice? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#9. Re: Koni Adjusting (was Stock Springs) - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:32:50 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Koni Adjusting (was Stock Springs) on 1/19/01 "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> posted: >> Sean - I have got to give you a hard time on this one. What in the world are >> you doing measuring in "half turns?" What kind of a unit is that? <vbg> >> > well... pppbbbhhttttppgbbtht!!!!!!! Oddly enough, half turns are the accepted meaningful adjustment increment for the Konis. Go figure. > ok... who's actually tried to adjust those damn things? (the rears for an > e36 M3) Me, unfortunately. What a PITA. I think or the rears as presettable rather than adjustable. > there's no markings of any sort to count turns, there's no way to see where > you are now, and it's darn near impossible to tell if you're even adjusting > the damn thing as you turn it... Amen to all that. What the hell were they thinking? Furthermore you can't compress the shock enough to engage the internal adjuster without removing the bump stop, and therefore the rear shock mount. Then unless you have the right T-handle allen wrench handy - at the track? yeah, right! - you end up putting the RSM back on just to use as a handle. And then taking it off again to replace the bump stops. And then reinstalling...well, you get the whole sorry picture. ProParts West (but not ProParts East = TC Kline) can rebuild the Koni rears to adjust externally - for a price. I've emailed to find out how much, will post when I hear back. Then we'll find out just how much my aggravation is worth! <g> Neil 96 M3 - Koni SA
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#10. E46 M3/4 - Ya want one? - from David Hogg
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:36:00 -0800 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: E46 M3/4 - Ya want one? BMW is still officially saying it won't build one, but if BMW NA has enough evidence of market demand, they might be able to convince the Vaterland. Dang it, I want one! How about you? If you do, please write a note from to Mr. Tom Purvis, Pres., BMW NA, and let him know. Email the note to ME, and I will print it out; then FedEx it with all of the other notes I get (and mine) to him at the HQ in NJ. (Or maybe Ben Liaw would like to hand-deliver them?) I'm hoping I can assemble at least fifty notes from the UUC and E36 M3 lists combined. Your note doesn't have to be fancy, just along the lines of "if you make one I'll buy it." About a quarter of all E36 M3's sold were 4-doors, so it would be stupid for Hans to ignore this market IMHO. I'd like to get the FedEx off in about a week, so do it now! Dave Hogg 98 M3/4 PHAT 4DR (Company car with requirement that it be a 4-door, which I also happen to like.)