E36M3 #876

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 16:54:34

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#1. Premature Leather Wear - from WCRoswell@aol.com
#2. Re: painting calipers - from Bryan Watts
#3. Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear - from Chester Wong
#4. Re: A Pillar Gauges - from Paul England
#5. calipers... - from Kit Wetzler
#6. RE: [E36M3] painting calipers - from peter@guagenti.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: A Pillar Gauges - from Matt Henson
#8. Aluminum (Metal Matrix Composite) brake rotors - from Steve Walsh
#9. Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear - from twisty M3
#10. RE: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear - from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?=

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#1. Premature Leather Wear - from WCRoswell@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:33:49 EST From: WCRoswell@aol.com Subject: Premature Leather Wear Has anyone had premature leather wear? If so have you gotten any remedy from BMW? I have a 98 M3 4 door sedan 5-speed with 22,000 miles. The leather is spider cracking bad on the drivers seat and passenger (don't usually have passengers in the back) I hve cleaned and treated the leather with Lexol. Thanks, Bill the M Car Nut

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#2. Re: painting calipers - from Bryan Watts
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:58:10 -0500 From: "Bryan Watts" <wattba02@wfu.edu> Subject: Re: painting calipers Mark wrote: > The Porsche rotors almost look enameled. That's the look I want. So far, none of the paints I have seen are shiny, and none of them stand up to racing heat at the track. I think the best bet is to powdercoat. If is more durable, more protective, and gives the glossy shine you are looking for. If I had to take a guess, I would assume that the P-Car calipers come from factory powder coated. I assume powdercoating will stand up to heat... anyone know? I don't think it is too expensive either. I had my entire rollbar in my street car powdercoated grey to match my interior...looks great and cost less than $100. -Bryan Watts '95 M3 '92 325is KP/ITS

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:59:08 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear > Has anyone had premature leather wear? If so have you gotten any remedy from > BMW? > > I have a 98 M3 4 door sedan 5-speed with 22,000 miles. The leather is spider > > cracking bad on the drivers seat and passenger (don't usually have passengers > > in the back) I hve cleaned and treated the leather with Lexol. First, you have to stop using Lexol. It's been said that the lanolin in it will ruin the stitching. Also, the Lexol stuff is very watery. Try something from Leather Master (http://www.leathercaremaster.com/product/kit1.html) or Leatherique (http://www.leatherique.com), which is much more thick and appears to feed the leather better. When you say spider cracking, do you mean that you have the crease marks or are the crease marks cracking? If the dealer doesn't do anything about it under warranty, you can also consider removing the coloring and reshooting new coloring. It's usually the color layer that cracks...or if you sweat a lot... HTH, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#4. Re: A Pillar Gauges - from Paul England
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:01:40 -0500 From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: A Pillar Gauges As far as boost gauges go, the VDOs are pretty nice for the money. SPI is a much better gauge, though. Autometer also makes some really nice ones for the money. For a second gauge forget about the mixture gauge (lean/rich). It is a neat light show that provides *zero* useful data. If you are going to bother with oil press/temp, you night want to consider putting a gauge plate in your sunglass holder. My opinion? Either go with a fuel pressure unit like Sue has, or even better, add an EGT (exhaust gas pyrometer). The probe goes into one of your header tubes (IIRC cylinder numbers 3-4 are best on an I6) and provides extremely useful data regarding the mixture in your car. Too cool is too rich, too hot is too lean. Getting that data from your O2 sensor is practically worthless since your car will be swinging from rich to lean all the time as a function of the closed (or was open, I forget) loop mode. Make sure you get a fast-reacting EGT probe, though. The Westach unit is awesome. If you need some hints on where to find all this stuff, let me know. HTH -Paul England > From: Ross A Brown <rossb77@juno.com> > > I have a 95 M3 with a dinan supercharger. > I want to add a boost gauge to the A pillar. > > What gauge would you recommend? > Also, what would you recommend for the second gauge; > lean/ rich, oil temp or oil pressure? **and the lovely Suzy added** > From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> > > How about fuel pressure for the second gauge? And as luck would have it, I

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#5. calipers... - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:19:53 -0800 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: calipers... > The Porsche rotors almost look enameled. That's the look I want. powdered coating is your only answer. The good news is that it's pretty cheap... if you take your calipers apart, it's probably only $100 or so... usually if you get lucky you can find a powder coater who is already doing a batch of red or whatever color you want... the bad news is that it requires stripping the calipers... you gotta pull the pistons, seals, etc. Not too hard, but might require downtime if you don't have extras... The other problem is that the M3's brake calipers are kinda booty lookin... not real exciting. The real e-ticket to Porsche looking brakes is the Movit brake kit... :) -kit 97 m3 w/ booty calipers

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#6. RE: [E36M3] painting calipers - from peter@guagenti.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:23:55 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] painting calipers > The problem with the Foliatec kit (and the reason I've not used it myself) > is that, as the poster above mentioned, it doesn't result in that awesome > Porsche glossy look. It's more of a mat finish. Very true. There is a trick to this though. If you want the glossy look (which I did on the 328i), after you're done painting the calipers spray a couple of coats of wheel paint clear coat on them. I don't know how long it will hol dup under extreme heat, but it's been good so far. If you are also looking to paint your rotors, you may want to avoid the Folia Tec kit. In te past, I've painted rotors using a glossy exhaust spray paint. Take the rotors off, mask the disc surface where the pads touch, and spray it down. looks great! > The Porsche rotors almost look enameled. That's the look I want. The Porsche brakes are powder-coated, hence the great look. If you want to go so far as to pull your calipers off and have them powder-coated, you'd be set. -p ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. http://www.hispeed.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: A Pillar Gauges - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: A Pillar Gauges I would probably also go with EGT. It can't really accuratly determine A/F ratio because EGTs are really rependant on ignition timing as much or more than A/F. But it's the best indicator of the status of your system. If your EGTs aren't too high and you aren't getting detonation then your system is going to be reliable. The Lean/rich guage is, IMO, also useful for monitoring changes in the system. It's not appropriate for tuning but it can be a good monitor. If you track your can then an Oil temp guage is probably also important on a F.I. car. Regards, Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#8. Aluminum (Metal Matrix Composite) brake rotors - from Steve Walsh
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:51:25 -0800 From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> Subject: Aluminum (Metal Matrix Composite) brake rotors Does anyone know a source for aluminum brake rotors (metal matrix composite ) ? My friend and I have a 2002 with aluminum rotor and hat ( 12" rotor ,4-pot front, 2-pot rear) brakes. We will be needing replacements soon, but our supplier has been difficult to work with (moved on to different projects). We would really HATE to give up that braking !!

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:27:23 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear Ahh! Interesting. I've been using only Lexol since I got my car ('99) and I've noticed the leather near the stitching beginning to stretch out/crack a bit. I wonder if that's the culprit? I was thinking it may have just been the tightness of those leather seats or my heavy arse over working the leather. Jonathan L. >From: Chester Wong . > >First, you have to stop using Lexol. It's been said that the lanolin in it >will ruin the stitching. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear - from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?=
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:53:36 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?= <magnus.thome@envox.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear I've been using Turtle's leather cleaner.. and I'm happy so far. But I've only done it twice (six months in between). Is the Turtle stuff dangerous in any way to the leather? /Magnus Thomé > -----Original Message----- > From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] > Sent: den 24 januari 2001 19:04 > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear > > > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:59:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Leather Wear > > > Has anyone had premature leather wear? If so have you > gotten any remedy from > > BMW? > > > > I have a 98 M3 4 door sedan 5-speed with 22,000 miles. The > leather is spider > > > > cracking bad on the drivers seat and passenger (don't > usually have passengers > > > > in the back) I hve cleaned and treated the leather with Lexol. > > First, you have to stop using Lexol. It's been said that the > lanolin in it > will ruin the stitching. Also, the Lexol stuff is very > watery. Try something > from Leather Master > (http://www.leathercaremaster.com/product/kit1.html) or > Leatherique (http://www.leatherique.com), which is much more > thick and appears > to feed the leather better. When you say spider cracking, do > you mean that you > have the crease marks or are the crease marks cracking? If > the dealer doesn't > do anything about it under warranty, you can also consider > removing the > coloring and reshooting new coloring. It's usually the color > layer that > cracks...or if you sweat a lot... > > HTH, > Chester > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the > mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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